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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Oh, Wii U would be WAY farther back
Since the Wal-Mart MCC "bundle" was not really a bundle, I assume it would count?
The collection is underperforming by any measure I can think of.
Honestly very smart for Sony to NOT have AAA exclusives for the holiday and save them for early 2015. If cboat telling the truth it made absolutely zero difference.
Well, at least the WiiU sold more this November than last year. So at least it has that going for it. I think more people will start to gravitate toward the system as they notice great games continue coming to the system.
I'm not surprised that PS4 numbers were close to Xbone numbers (we believe so far anyway.) It's the Christmas season and more PS4s were shipped than Xbone's, at least that's what people reported. Only makes sense that PS4 would catch up after the Xbone's surge on Black Friday.
Looks like all three companies can take some positives out of November sales.
I'm not surprised that PS4 numbers were close to Xbone numbers (we believe so far anyway.) It's the Christmas season and more PS4s were shipped than Xbone's, at least that's what people reported. Only makes sense that PS4 would catch up after the Xbone's surge on Black Friday.
Looks like all three companies can take some positives out of November sales.
Stone Ocean
Member
I don't get it either, the X1 was selling at a healthy pace but apparently Microsoft can't stand being second.
Consider:
Phil Spencer said:
The primary objective is of course to profit, but it's not like the Xbox brand has historically been particularly profitable. It's why the Xbox division is constantly under such scrutiny in the internal debates going on at Microsoft between divisions.
So, the question is:
Were the number of overall sales Xbox One had for November sufficiently large enough to offset the profit margin decrease required to sell the system at the price it was at most retailers?
We know they are not going to be very happy with the solidification of their second place status for the rest of the generation. But whether that disappointment can be muted somewhat by at least a decent profit margin is yet to be seen.
Then the implications for the future are clear:
1. PS4 is almost certain to win December NPD now.
2. Xbox One is devalued at market in consumer eyes; hard to rise price again and expect to do well.
3. Means over the longer term they're going to have to sell significantly more units month-over-month to make the XBO venture very profitable when you factor in entire cost of R&D and to-market considerations.
4. Means almost certainly PS4 is going to continue to dominate month after month going forward, with this blip being a rare exception (and just barely, you're not closing any gaps at this rate).
Chobel
Member
I don't think anyone even MS believe that's gonna happen. But I agree with you overall, Xbox One can (and hopefully will) be a successful product.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I think hanging onto that anchor will be the biggest problem. I could be wrong, but a $200 Mario Kart 8 machine with two controllers would fucking destroy at retail.
Make it optional.. they have to realize that they have sold what they can sell at that price point with the GamePad packed in..
I almost want them to have won in the US by 1k units. Firstly because it would just be entertaining. But secondly it would prove beyond doubt that MS PR for NPD has been some of the most deviously worded ever.
I believe if it is not part of an official bundle (PS4 GTAV/TLoU or XBO AC Bundle) they do count.
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Deleted member 17706
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Seriously. I hate this narrative where there has to be some big loser.
theprodigy
Member
you see a similar thing now, Nintendo returns to profitably=Wii U is profitable despite the 3DS being the one holding it up
:lol
Chezzymann
Member
Couldnt PS4 still be #1 in the US? That PR said UK+US, not just the US.
Canis lupus
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from predictions thread
rolf this gif was never more relevant
John Bender
Banned
Yes. Still a ~1.1 million difference
hydrophilic attack
Member
Counting the value of bundled games, the XBO was effectively going for below $300 within a year of its launch at $500. That's a 40 % price drop in one year. This drop was meant to be temporary, and was designed to propel the XBO into making up a sizeable part of its sales deficit to the PS4. If all they managed was a 10k win, they ate all that lost money and devalued the value of their product in the eyes of the consumers (it will be very difficult for them to take the price back up to $399) for practically nothing.
With how the exclusives situation is looking for the first half of next year, Xbox could be in for a bloodbath all the way until Tomb Raider releases.
Still, if you ignore how incredibly well the PS4 is doing, when all is said and done, the XBO will still have done pretty well this gen. But they will end up far below the expectations they had before launch.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world isn't all sunshine and rainbows. It will beat you to your knees if you let it. Nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you're hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
That's how winning is done!
That's how winning is done!
Wii U sales make me sad. They should've come out with much better BF deals. Most Nintendo can hope for is that it's profitable in the end.
Nintendo's software sales seem to be good with Smash Bros and Pokemon ORAS.
Amiibos seemed to sell well too although I don't know if they met Nintendo's expectations.
New 3DS should've been released everywhere this year, that much is clear.
Hearing how good Dragon Age is and not seeing it chart is concerning, although, I'm guessing it's not too far behind the top ten.
Far Cry 4 seems to have done well.
I am happy for PS4 and XB1 hardware sales though.
Nintendo's software sales seem to be good with Smash Bros and Pokemon ORAS.
Amiibos seemed to sell well too although I don't know if they met Nintendo's expectations.
New 3DS should've been released everywhere this year, that much is clear.
Hearing how good Dragon Age is and not seeing it chart is concerning, although, I'm guessing it's not too far behind the top ten.
Far Cry 4 seems to have done well.
I am happy for PS4 and XB1 hardware sales though.
rokkerkory
Member
We all expected X1 to pull out in Nov due to all the sales and deals.
Now onto Dec... I expect PS4 to retake the sales.
Now onto Dec... I expect PS4 to retake the sales.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
One of the very few logical things that will be said in this thread tonight.
RowdyReverb
Member
People are acting like this is a defeat or hollow victory, but if I was MS, I'd consider keeping pace with the PS4 a win. It's a massive success, so their goal isn't to beat it necessarily, but to replicate that success.
Not to mention DAI was just a horrible RPG in a year of fantastic ones...
Unknown One
Member
Even 100k-200k would be a fail, after the previous months of losing by that much.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
That's true too. I'll eat some Insta-Crow if that's the case.
Damn...................................Sad but true. :'(
Can't tell if serious or
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
CBOAT's number seems crazy to me considering how steep those discounts are.
QuantumZebra
Member
I agree with this as a PS4 fanboy. X1 is doing well, I'm happy for MS.
I really wish MS and Nintendo were in each other's places right now.
DidntKnowJack
Member
What does Sony say in a situation like this?
Well, we didn't have the top selling hardware this month, but we still did pretty good!
Of course they would never say that verbatim, but i imagine that would essentially be their message...?
Well, we didn't have the top selling hardware this month, but we still did pretty good!
Of course they would never say that verbatim, but i imagine that would essentially be their message...?
Miles Quaritch
Member
This is upsetting.
The urge...it rises. I'm coming for my balls, bish....
It's time to get back in the saddle.
LowParry
Member
Depends if what CBOAT says is true. All that money drops for such a small numbers gain for one month.
Greenberg is in the UK at the moment, so time zones may make commenting trickier
Emedan
Member
Jesus, let me use a another term for you - They won the battle but are losing the war. This is not a viable sustainable strategy to sell Xbox One. The victory cost more than it was worth cause the result was so abysmal considering the effort put in. This NPD could probably be used as a definition of a Pyrrhic victory in a dictionary.
Immaculate
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joecanada
Member
Great post.
Well, what are the Vita numbers? There's your loser.
with all Microsoft did to win November and it be only 7-10k if i was Sony i'd congratulate them lol.
Even if it lasts 8 years, it has pretty much zero chance to reach X360 numbers
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Why wouldn't it? Hasn't it been selling at a faster pace than the 360 since it released?
neogaffer1
Banned
bu bu bu but console warz! /s
Glad for both companies. Winning by selling more consoles is more important for pleasing the fanbase than it is to do well commercially. Both companies did well this time around.
They sold likely 1 million XBOs, pleased the fanbase while likely convincing mainstream gamers who look at IGN and nothing else that they're not just a second place console, and recovered sales wise faster than PS3 did (afaik). If the fanbase didn't give a fuck about who was selling faster or just didn't know at all, MS wouldn't care as long as it sold moderately well, which it is.
pinkurocket
Member
Plz buy a Wii U.
