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Monocle

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You know, in the past I used to think that if there was a pill that could make me straight, I'd take it. But now I wouldn't even consider taking it.

It is amazing how much I owe to the sacrifices and courage of other people in the LGBT community.
These days, being gay is pretty great if you live in an accepting place. It's fairly easy to socialize with women because there's less weird tension after you get to know each other, and if you can pass as straight then most guys assume that you are, so there's no weirdness on that side either. It's a little more complicated when you get crushes on straight people, and there's always the issue of identifying who else is gay, but unrequited crushes aren't an exclusively gay problem, and it's easier now than it ever was to meet other gay people.

I've even made actual non-creep friends on Grindr, lol.
 

RM8

Member
I don't even have the issue of falling for straight guys, but it still sucks having to meet guys in such a deliberate and inorganic way. I haven't been very lucky, and while it's flattering, it's also a bit frustrating when you get hit on by girls. This hypothetical pill would definitely make things a bit easier for me, and I don't think I'd be a worse or better person by virtue of being straight.
 

Meicyn

Member
You know, in the past I used to think that if there was a pill that could make me straight, I'd take it. But now I wouldn't even consider taking it.

It is amazing how much I owe to the sacrifices and courage of other people in the LGBT community.
I would have if I had access to it during the time it mattered. I'd have had kids by now since the only reason why I broke up with my girlfriend and came out was because we couldn't make the bedroom situation work. We had so many common interests, it was ridiculous.

Right now though? Nah.
 
I don't get crushes (straight or otherwise). It seems like I'd have to be deliberately naive to get romantically invested in someone I don't know, people are great and everything but mooning over someone is too much of a sustained and concerted effort and I'm not going to do it for the sake of 'potential'. Everyone has potential.

Wanting to bang straight guys, sure. At any given moment I probably know of like like six that I can call to mind, lol.
 

RM8

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I don't get crushes (straight or otherwise). It seems like I'd have to be deliberately naive to get romantically invested in someone I don't know, people are great and everything but mooning over someone is too much of a sustained and concerted effort and I'm not going to do it for the sake of 'potential'. Everyone has potential.
I feel exactly the same! My mind is blown when people suddenly and involuntarily develop such strong romantical feelings for other people who might or might not be into them.
 
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Deleted member 465307

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Sexuals are becoming even more weird to me as I think more and more about it so no I do not want to have that sort of need for sex....it sounds like a nightmare.

I previously identified as some kind of graysexual and am now leaning towards being demisexual. I'm still trying to figure this out, and we'll see how things change if/when I am single. I'm hoping that I would be the same sexually as I was before this relationship because I'd rather not feel the need you're describing. Like, I fear it. :p

I would have if I had access to it during the time it mattered. I'd have had kids by now since the only reason why I broke up with my girlfriend and came out was because we couldn't make the bedroom situation work. We had so many common interests, it was ridiculous.

Right now though? Nah.

Are you two still close? I was in a situation like this (but probably much less serious), and it has had what I'd consider a happy ending.
 

Camillelang

Neo Member
I previously identified as some kind of graysexual and am now leaning towards being demisexual. I'm still trying to figure this out, and we'll see how things change if/when I am single. I'm hoping that I would be the same sexually as I was before this relationship because I'd rather not feel the need you're describing. Like, I fear it. :p

I am so terrified one day my anxiety medicine will change and I will become a sexual. The thought of guys looking at me sexually has always caused me stress even before I was sexually assulted. Now I like looking sexy but just for myself and Down.

I've recently been hanging out with someone as a friend but I am pretty sure he wants to date me but I'm like no. All the hetero men (aka the worst) that I have met have led me to believe if you hang out with someone that you are dating you have to have sex every time you see them since that was what was ending up happening so to me sexuals hang out to have sex and that is it (which is not true) and I am sure this won't happen with this guy since he says he will never make a move on me since I explained my new fear around men but i am actually staring to get worried that I might just be a normal ass hetero.....but I don't think so???? I dont have any sexual feelings for him and could just live with just companion friendship. lack of sexuality is so hard to describe/understand so I myself am still trying to figure it out.
 
I feel exactly the same! My mind is blown when people suddenly and involuntarily develop such strong romantical feelings for other people who might or might not be into them.

At least as a routine thing. I've experienced love at first sight before (which as a concept is pretty controversial), but that was the weird exception to the rule, getting routine crushes or something seems so impractical. It's like people aren't that great :p

Are y'all demisexual?

I wish. I've named the monkey on my back.
 

RM8

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Are y'all demisexual?
Hmmm... I didn't know that was a thing, lol. I'm not sure I'm demisexual, though - I can feel sexual attraction to people even if there's no emotional bond involved, it's just that I never develop romantic feelings for anyone out of the blue. I don't get crushes, I need to make the effort to be with someone for that to happen.

At least as a routine thing. I've experienced love at first sight before (which as a concept is pretty controversial), but that was the weird exception to the rule, getting routine crushes or something seems so impractical. It's like people aren't that great :p
I think I can safely say I haven't experienced love at first sight either :p Maybe I'm just broken, lol.
 
Hmmm... I didn't know that was a thing, lol. I'm not sure I'm demisexual, though - I can feel sexual attraction to people even if there's no emotional bond involved, it's just that I never develop romantic feelings for anyone out of the blue. I don't get crushes, I need to make the effort to be with someone for that to happen.
Fall in love with a dustpan and broom
 

Meicyn

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Are you two still close? I was in a situation like this (but probably much less serious), and it has had what I'd consider a happy ending.
Yeah, we still communicate and send each other gifts during birthdays and Christmas. We parted with the understanding that trying to deny my sexuality wouldn't pan out well in the long run.
 
I think I can safely say I haven't experienced love at first sight either :p Maybe I'm just broken, lol.

I don't think it's a very common experience, since people like to debate about whether it even exists. It stands to reason that if it were more common there wouldn't really be much of a debate.
 
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Deleted member 465307

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Yeah, we still communicate and send each other gifts during birthdays and Christmas. We parted with the understanding that trying to deny my sexuality wouldn't pan out well in the long run.

This sounds positive (I hope it is). Glad you came to a mutual understanding. That must have been a really tough period of your life.

I am so terrified one day my anxiety medicine will change and I will become a sexual. The thought of guys looking at me sexually has always caused me stress even before I was sexually assulted. Now I like looking sexy but just for myself and Down.

I've recently been hanging out with someone as a friend but I am pretty sure he wants to date me but I'm like no. All the hetero men (aka the worst) that I have met have led me to believe if you hang out with someone that you are dating you have to have sex every time you see them since that was what was ending up happening so to me sexuals hang out to have sex and that is it (which is not true) and I am sure this won't happen with this guy since he says he will never make a move on me since I explained my new fear around men but i am actually staring to get worried that I might just be a normal ass hetero.....but I don't think so???? I dont have any sexual feelings for him and could just live with just companion friendship. lack of sexuality is so hard to describe/understand so I myself am still trying to figure it out.

I think I can empathize a tiny bit with what you're describing regarding the asexual identity and understanding what it means/the possibility of change. Myself, I've wondered for a long time if my asexual identity is a mental construction that's the result of certain previous events. I still don't know. I know that I have fears tied up in this whole "sexual" business, and that I'd benefit from moving past some of them, but I also know that that's all a long ways off, if it ever happens at all. I'm not sure if you can relate to that, but that's where I'm at currently.

As for the guy...well, if you're not interested and he is, he'll eventually move his romantic eyes elsewhere. I hope it gets sorted out!
 

Camillelang

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I don't think it's a very common experience, since people like to debate about whether it even exists. It stands to reason that if it were more common there wouldn't really be much of a debate.

I think what most people think of as love at first sight is extreme interest at first sight or lust at first sight, but rarely if ever love.

I would like to think I have experienced it but it has always been an extreme interest/infatuation that turned into love however I guess people would debate if it is truly love since it is a very strong platonic love without any sexual component.
 
is love at first sight really just another way of saying i want to eye bone you.

don't mind me. just waiting for lunch to arrive.

Re: Grindr

Ask for sex when profile say don't ask for sex.
ask for pics but they don't want to click my instagram link.

my profile sounds depressing as hell yet there's always a few people that say "nice profile" "love your profile"
 
That butt covering thread in gaming in on fire. Made me think of how, as a gay man, I get really put off sometimes by overly sexualized women in games.

I was playing this mobile SRPG a few months ago. I actually really liked the gameplay, but after half an hour of seeing that every character was a nearly nude woman with gigantic boobs and the story seemed to suggest that they were all 'slaves' to me.... I couldn't do it.

I'm playing Blade and Soul now and it's starting to give me the same vibe. Really fun game, but there's this weird physics bug where every time you start a conversation with a NPC things jiggle. Robes, tattered clothing, and of course breasts. It's really annoying, lol.
 

Maledict

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That butt covering thread in gaming in on fire. Made me think of how, as a gay man, I get really put off sometimes by overly sexualized women in games.

I was playing this mobile SRPG a few months ago. I actually really liked the gameplay, but after half an hour of seeing that every character was a nearly nude woman with gigantic boobs and the story seemed to suggest that they were all 'slaves' to me.... I couldn't do it.

I'm playing Blade and Soul now and it's starting to give me the same vibe. Really fun game, but there's this weird physics bug where every time you start a conversation with a NPC things jiggle. Robes, tattered clothing, and of course breasts. It's really annoying, lol.

I know exactly what you mean - especially some of the JRPG stuff is just embarressing. You don't want anyone to look over your shoulder and see you playing it on your vita, because it's just sad and demeaning.
 
That butt covering thread in gaming in on fire. Made me think of how, as a gay man, I get really put off sometimes by overly sexualized women in games.

I was playing this mobile SRPG a few months ago. I actually really liked the gameplay, but after half an hour of seeing that every character was a nearly nude woman with gigantic boobs and the story seemed to suggest that they were all 'slaves' to me.... I couldn't do it.

I'm playing Blade and Soul now and it's starting to give me the same vibe. Really fun game, but there's this weird physics bug where every time you start a conversation with a NPC things jiggle. Robes, tattered clothing, and of course breasts. It's really annoying, lol.
Yeah me and my friend where talking about it. Yeah it is like the same thing in anime where they force the camera on the girls breasts or ass. Like if i really want to see things like if i want to see those i can just look it up.
Im waiting for junk jiggle physics.
 

Bladenic

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That butt covering thread in gaming in on fire. Made me think of how, as a gay man, I get really put off sometimes by overly sexualized women in games.

I was playing this mobile SRPG a few months ago. I actually really liked the gameplay, but after half an hour of seeing that every character was a nearly nude woman with gigantic boobs and the story seemed to suggest that they were all 'slaves' to me.... I couldn't do it.

I'm playing Blade and Soul now and it's starting to give me the same vibe. Really fun game, but there's this weird physics bug where every time you start a conversation with a NPC things jiggle. Robes, tattered clothing, and of course breasts. It's really annoying, lol.

See it doesn't affect me at all but as a result I can look at the problem objectively. Thank god I'm not a blind straight dude 😂
 
See it doesn't affect me at all but as a result I can look at the problem objectively. Thank god I'm not a blind straight dude 😂
That's about where I am. I can "handle" games like that but I can't help but smirk and roll my eyes at the more blatant attempts to get that horny straight male audience.

But I'll admit that after having played more games that emphasized on sexy appealing guys recently, that I would be appreciative of more content like that. I dont desire nearlt as much cheesecake as the standard audience gets today...but a little more would be nice, you know? I guess I am technically ok with some characters that are sexed up "just cause", but it's the fact that it's almost a default for female characters that makes it troublesome to me.
 

Rayis

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If anything, being gay sucks nowadays because of other gay people more so than homophobes, and that's an improvement I guess
 

Elitist1945

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This photo makes me happy.

All the ABBA members together recently
 
I am on a train that is done up in Rise of the Tomb Raider ads, like on the floor and walls.

If anything, being gay sucks nowadays because of other gay people more so than homophobes, and that's an improvement I guess
Like unpleasant experiences when trying to ask someone out?
 

Wil348

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If anything, being gay sucks nowadays because of other gay people more so than homophobes, and that's an improvement I guess

So from your perspective, excluding people from society, bigotry, and in some cases genocide are lesser transgressions against the LGBT community? I really hope that you were only trying to make a witty comment, but somehow I doubt that.
 

RM8

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I'm so over fanservice in games, really, and it's been getting worse and affecting some of my favourite games. And any criticism towards fanservice is met with a lot of hostility, people get really defensive over digital boobs. I've been told I have issues with sex and that my English sucks during such arguments. And my English might suck but that's not relevant to the discussion :p I also don't think the solution is to add more male fanservice. I don't want games to be softcore porn, why are gamers such horndogs? :[ Some years ago I wouldn't have believed Street Fighter and Fire Emblem would turn into Dead or Alive and Record of Agarest War.
 
I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. 😢 Does anyone else have this problem?
 

Elitist1945

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I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. �� Does anyone else have this problem?

Somewhat? I mean all the guys I get attracted to I find out are straight haha. But I have been attracted to gay guys before.

EDIT: I contradicted myself but you know what I mean lol
 

Delio

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I'm so over fanservice in games, really, and it's been getting worse and affecting some of my favourite games. And any criticism towards fanservice is met with a lot of hostility, people get really defensive over digital boobs. I've been told I have issues with sex and that my English sucks during such arguments. And my English might suck but that's not relevant to the discussion :p I also don't think the solution is to add more male fanservice. I don't want games to be softcore porn, why are gamers such horndogs? :[ Some years ago I wouldn't have believed Street Fighter and Fire Emblem would turn into Dead or Alive and Record of Agarest War.

I get what you are saying. But I'm just glad Fire emblem isnt gone. I didn't mind the dating/wedding elements being added but i wish it was more fleshed out. I do understand your concerns of course.
 

Sai-kun

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I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. 😢 Does anyone else have this problem?

so once someone tells you 'yeah i like men' you just find them unattractive?

girl, what?
 
I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. 😢 Does anyone else have this problem?
Yeah, uh, no? I don't know what I would do if all I was into was straight guys... rip
 

Rayis

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Oh well, I knew the reception that post was going to have so meh, I posted it, I stand by it, homophobes are a big problem but let's not pretend the gay community is perfect
inb4 there's no gay community

So from your perspective, excluding people from society, bigotry, and in some cases genocide are lesser transgressions against the LGBT community? I really hope that you were only trying to make a witty comment, but somehow I doubt that.

I never claimed something like that, my whole point was if somebody would make someone feel bad for being gay, in today's climate is possibly more likely coming from other gay people than homophobes due to the racism, transphobia, body negativity, and gender policing behavior coming from many gay people, but obviously being an all-encompassing, generalizing post I have to add five million caveats saying that I'm not speaking about all gay people, I'm not taking into account people who live in small towns, or lgbt-unfriendly countries and so many other things, I'm just not afraid of making generalizations and having them misconstrued I guess.
 
I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. 😢 Does anyone else have this problem?

That's about as tough as being attracted to your flaccid penis.
 
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Deleted member 465307

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I feel kinda awkward barging into this thread where everyone seems to know one another, but I kinda wanna vent.

By far the worst thing about being gay, at least for me, is that I'm literally only attracted to straight guys. Gay men do nothing at all for me. In fact, once I detect even a hint of gayness, any attraction I may have had disappears. Finding someone is going to be impossible. �� Does anyone else have this problem?

What does "a hint of gayness" mean? Is this someone saying, "I like guys"? Or are you referring to stereotypes?

Also, how long have you been out and/or accepting of your sexuality?

EDIT: Reading the below post, I've found that gay people have a very wide array of interests and mannerisms, unless you're referring to specifically "gay" interests like certain kinds of media that deal with gay themes. I have to agree with Cosmic Bus below me and say that it sounds like there could be some internalized homophobia going on if literally anything that you see as "gay" turns you off.

I'm so over fanservice in games, really, and it's been getting worse and affecting some of my favourite games. And any criticism towards fanservice is met with a lot of hostility, people get really defensive over digital boobs. I've been told I have issues with sex and that my English sucks during such arguments. And my English might suck but that's not relevant to the discussion :p I also don't think the solution is to add more male fanservice. I don't want games to be softcore porn, why are gamers such horndogs? :[ Some years ago I wouldn't have believed Street Fighter and Fire Emblem would turn into Dead or Alive and Record of Agarest War.

To be honest, your English seems fantastic to me. :)

Personally, I don't really care about what fanservice ends up in games. However, the fact that a number of the industry's best and brightest games (and/or the ones that get the most media attention) have issues with the representation of women or completely sexualize their female characters bothers me a lot. If gaming suddenly took over the Oscars, I feel like the general public would be shocked if certain games were nominated for awards after seeing some of the character designs and portrayals.

I get that games are inherently playful, but I'd like the medium to professionalize itself a bit. If you're aiming to be the cream of the crop, I wish you couldn't get there while dismissing or objectifying large parts of the world's population. I think blockbusters and fluff games totally have their place; they're fun! I think the more explicitly pornographic games should exist, too. In my opinion, such themes are unavoidably human. I just hope we'll continue to see the growth of a market that values games that avoid such tropes, makes them more and more financially viable, and potentially sets new benchmarks for what it means to be a "blockbuster" and new standards for what is needed to be a "critical darling." The sooner gaming publishers and developers realize the industry shouldn't be and isn't a "straight boy's club," the better. Thankfully, I think we're getting there.
 
You're probably going to have to elaborate on what you mean by "hint of gayness."

I guess I mean any qualities that wouldn't exist in a straight guy. Gay interests are fine, but any gay mannerisms, etc. immediately turn me off. I always wish I could transform into a girl for one night just so I could go on a mad dick sucking spree, but being a guy kind of prevents that possibility. It sucks. It just pains me so much knowing the only thing stopping me from having hot pork sessions is my maleness. Not that I have a problem being physically male, but it sucks how it severely limits my sexual opportunities. I've been getting really desperate.

Anyway, I'm glad I finally have a place I can vent my gay frustrations. Thanks guys.
 
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