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Will You Purchase Google Stadia? (Post Conference opinions)

Post-Conference, are you now on board the Google Stadia Train?


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jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I don't understand what you actually purchase. Just seems like a streaming service paid via a monthly membership. It's not worked in past and won't work today.

They kind of hinted at it a bit when they pitched it to the developers as "the internet is your store".

I imagine that games on Stadia will be regular priced, individual purchases - probably with 15-20 minutes of "free" play time per game, per account. You can click the link and start playing Doom Eternal on Stadia in your browser, but after your 15 minutes is up, you've gotta plunk down the $60 to add it to your account to keep playing.

That's the way it seemed to me, at least.
 

Jigsaah

Member
Three things are major factors for me:

#1 Functionality as a youtuber.
- There are some built in functions Google announced that I'm very interested in. Depends on how well these are executed.

#2 Developers are supposed to be able to develop games without the limit of a singular Dev Kit. This is a very new concept and it may allow developers to make games currently impossible even for high end PCs. Wopuld be insane if it works. Looking forward to hearing from developers.

#3 Price. Duh. I'd pay 15 bucks a month for this, 20 if it's helping me to earn income as well via youtube and streaming. I would like to see Google integrate a similar donation system or be able to integrate with Twitch somehow.
 
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Only if some major publisher or developer gets purchased by Google and I am forced to buy this product.. then yes, maybe. They can't win me over with "subs for games". I want ownership, be that digital download or disc.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
Well there isn't anything to "buy". I assume most on here have either a Switch controller, Dual Shock, or XBOX controller. Seems if you have those then you are good and don't need the Google controller.

So when PS5 drops for 499 and if this Google thing actually works then I will game with Google. Once PS5 is 250$ then maybe I will decide to jump in.
 

Susurrus

Member
So the games you already have, but now with increased latency, increased compression and you don't actually have them.

What's the point?

Hard pass.
 

Hinedorf

Banned
I like any new shiny toy. All comes down to price but in talking about price here's my question.... WHAT AM I PAYING FOR?
Am I paying a monthly/yearly subscription cost for the Stadia service?
Am I paying a per license cost for games + an additional Stadia service charge?
It seems like #1 factor to this service is living/being in a neighborhood where the infrastructure has/supports fiber optic internet?

If you're telling me I can stream Red Dead Online sitting in the Starbucks at Disneyland while my wife is having a magical time, name your damn price.
 

EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
It’s not often Google makes gaming consoles, everyone is saying No, as a gamer, why not? First tho we need to see the games
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
If I cant play the games offline then my answer no. Like I said before, in Canada our internet connection is honestly not very good so streaming games through clouds is out of the question.
 

haxan7

Volunteered as Tribute
I will decide if I want it when it launches.

The ability to take a game from screen to screen has some appeal to me, because I find sitting in one spot for extended sessions becomes more and more of a problem as I get older.

Combined with cross platform saves (if this is universally implemented, and done well), I can see this being something I would pay money for.
 

Bl@de

Member
I assume the app will be free ... so ... yes? I‘ll just use my xbox controller and get a cheap title to test it. Or they‘ll have a free month like Netflix.
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
what is the point of 10.7 tflops of power when any sec ur game can just shut down?
 

Dantendo

Neo Member
Yes I'm very excited and I believe this is the inevitable future. I hope my nvidea shield is up to snuff. Give this system time to grow and we'll be having 1000 ppl battle Royales in VR lol. It's going to start slow but I will be an early adopter.. unless there is only assassin's creed to play lol
 

JohannCK

Member
If I cant play the games offline then my answer no. Like I said before, in Canada our internet connection is honestly not very good so streaming games through clouds is out of the question.
We have decent internet here in Japan but providers tend to put caps on usage. Mine, for example, is 20 GB a day and 50 GB a week, and there aren’t any higher plans (plus no alternative providers for my building).

And then Fallout 76 came along with its day one 55 GB patch.

What is up with western devs assuming that everyone has unlimited superinternet? I have friends in the US who complain about their connections far more often than me so it’s doubly perplexing.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
What is up with western devs assuming that everyone has unlimited superinternet?
I like to know that as well! Currently internet still too unreliable for streaming full games without loss picture quality and without lag.
 

renzolama

Member
Three things are major factors for me:

#1 Functionality as a youtuber.
- There are some built in functions Google announced that I'm very interested in. Depends on how well these are executed.

#2 Developers are supposed to be able to develop games without the limit of a singular Dev Kit. This is a very new concept and it may allow developers to make games currently impossible even for high end PCs. Wopuld be insane if it works. Looking forward to hearing from developers.

#3 Price. Duh. I'd pay 15 bucks a month for this, 20 if it's helping me to earn income as well via youtube and streaming. I would like to see Google integrate a similar donation system or be able to integrate with Twitch somehow.

making a game currently impossible even for high end PCs is a goal that is directly in conflict with being able to then stream it over an average internet connection - if there is any impact on game development due to streaming, it will be to reduce development effort on performance and fidelity
 
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ultrazilla

Member
Indeed my fellow gamers, this 47 year old gamer knew this day would inevitably rear its ugly head. Having been born and raised when video games were in
their infancy(Pong, Atari 2600) I've always loved buying and collecting games, cartridges and games on cd(when they were complete and not needing multi gig
day 1 patches).

The industry has pushed and pushed for this very moment and here we stand. Video gaming is not merely a "service" to me. It's something much more. It's tangible.
It's social. It's the sights, the sounds. The collecting, the preserving. Us sharing stories of our first "holy grail" store finds for those elusive video games we always wanted.

Something primal about opening a new cartridge box or breaking the factory sealed cellophane wrap on our cd or blu ray games. The times we flipped through the game
manual and actually held it to our noses to smell the fresh ink and paint coming from it's newly printed pages.

No my fellow gamer. I will never embrace the "all digital future". I will rebel. I will resist. I will not support. I will not give in.

Remember this day. It will be a very important one in video game history. One that you and I share and enjoy. I only wish I had done more to pass on my feelings and history from
video gaming of days past to a younger generation.

This is the line in the sand.
 
Right now with the little info we have my answer is NO. No, because I want GAMES, not services. Services lead to poor quality games, the equivalent to junk food in cuisine. I dont want a market full of GaaS, online playing with fucking streamers (excuse me??!) just to promote their own platform, Youtube, that is secondary to Twitch.

This "gaming" proposal is just about promoting Youtube and collecting more data from users.


Count me in on #teamhater , too.
 

Jigsaah

Member
making a game currently impossible even for high end PCs is a goal that is directly in conflict with being able to then stream it over an average internet connection - if there is any impact on game development due to streaming, it will be to reduce development effort on performance and fidelity

Then why are they offering this? To developers.
 

renzolama

Member
Then why are they offering this? To developers.

I would assume that it's because dealing with dev kits is a giant pain in the ass in general, so having the dev kits (dev environment might be a better term in this case) accessible remotely would be a convenience (at least in some ways, probably not for hardware level debugging etc)
 
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Jubenhimer

Member
I will say this though, I think Streaming has its place in gaming as the sort of "Public Library" of the medium. A place where people can rent or sample games without the need for a download sounds like a great business model for more casual gamers, or people who just want to buzz through a game in a weekend before deciding if they want to keep it.

I still believe people will always prefer to privately own their media (be it Digital or Physical), but this seems like a good pass time if you just want to play a game without spending too much. I'd prefer if such a service was in the hands of anybody but Google, but eh, it is what it is.
 
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G-Bus

Member
Curious how much data this will consume because I do have a data cap with my provider. Currently have the fastest internet available to me and I still have issues with lag when my wife watches Netflix and I'm playing Apex Legends or any other online game.

Can't help but feel this sort of thing is a bit early yet.

it still appeals to me. The older I get the less time I have so the ability to simply click and play is great. Today I went to boot up apex and play a quick round before I leave for work and I'm met with a download screen for the most recent update.
 

Bryank75

Banned
We have a good thing going right now, PlayStation , Nintendo , Capcom, Platinum, Taketwo , Square, From and amazingly even Microsoft understand we want high quality games and are delivering. If we let these gangsters in, they will ruin it, I'm almost positive.
 

Cato

Banned
We have decent internet here in Japan but providers tend to put caps on usage. Mine, for example, is 20 GB a day ...

And then Fallout 76 came along with its day one 55 GB patch.

To be honest, that sounds like a blessing in disguise. You should send an email to your ISP and thank them.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
first off always on gaming is just a no for me. i don't want to have to plug in the internet to play.

secondly, wireless streaming is pitiful. i tried PSNow and Project Stream wirelessly and they were UNPLAYABLE. plugging direct into my fiber connection was decent, but still looked like i was watching a youtube video, and the lag never went away.
 
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Yes this is the future. Gamers are very pessimistic, but if all of Google's promises end up true, the next PlayStation and Xbox are already outdated. Physical media is phasing out, streaming quality continues to close the gap and if anyone can do it, it's Google.

First it was music.
Next it was movies.
Now it's gaming.

at the end of the day it's just going to improve Xbox and Playstation offerings with more first-party exclusives and services
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Yes this is the future. Gamers are very pessimistic, but if all of Google's promises end up true, the next PlayStation and Xbox are already outdated. Physical media is phasing out, streaming quality continues to close the gap and if anyone can do it, it's Google.

First it was music.
Next it was movies.
Now it's gaming.

Thanks Google, yet all three you mentioned still have physical format.
 
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Cato

Banned
I don't buy digital, I won't buy this.
If I can't own the disk and hold it in my hand you will not get my money.

Then you have the risks. First of they eventually get tired of the service and slowly starts to unwind it, or maybe just abandon it and let it rot.
This is not a core service for Google.

And let me guess, like all other services, if you make an infraction on some other asset, like youtube, and you lose your gmail account
then you will no longer be able to access any of the games you have already purchased?

No thanks.
 

Fbh

Member
It's not even going to be available in south america at launch so it's not like I have a choice.

Once it's made available I'll probably give it a try just to see how it works but from what they have shown so far it's not a service I'm looking forward to, and I suspect it won't offer enough nor work well enough for me to give up the benefits of "local" hardware
 

angelic

Banned
Laughably shit, these controllers will be sat alongside ouyas in the bargain shops of the world. Phil Harrison is a dick, and Google will be capturing and selling your data as you go. Apart from that, it's great.
 

Stuart360

Member
Legit question, people still buy CD's?
They must do, as you can still go into stores and buy albums on CD's, hell you can still get singles on CD. And thats what?, 20-25 years after 'CD's are about to die' talk with the rise of the internet.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Legit question, people still buy CD's?

People do, and here's a shocker vinyl too. :messenger_face_screaming:

Regardless if not as big as decades ago, they are still for sale and they're still an option because the market knows you reach all demographics in your entertainment saturation, you don't limit them.

And it's still an apple and orange comparison when it comes to actual playing a game and listening to music.
 

JLMC469

Banned
They must do, as you can still go into stores and buy albums on CD's, hell you can still get singles on CD. And thats what?, 20-25 years after 'CD's are about to die' talk with the rise of the internet.

Well yeah. but I imagine physical sales account for a lot less than digital. I mean, I haven't bought a CD in years (and don't know many people that still do).

Here in PR (Puerto Rico) almost all music stores have closed.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
i just got a brand new vinyl waiting for me when i got home from work today. it's an album i have already owned on CD and then as MP3s.

yeah sorry i like physical media w my media
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
I like having games I can put on my shelf and I don't want to worry about data caps. I will pass for now.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Under no circumstances. Consumer rights (ownership), persistence of purchases, quality of experience (variable lag), even the controller (symmetric sticks) - nothing is good about Stadia.
 
I subscribe to Apple Music and still buy vinyls, I subscribe to Netflix and still buy UHDs. I’ll try it out but I’ll still buy software for my hardware.
 
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