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Animegate - Downfall of Mignogna (long and image heavy)

Virex

Abrasive, but well-meaning
This looks more like someone who just wants wreck someone else's life. I don't believe this story one bit. This #metoo is doing more damage to women actually. And it does an injustice to people that have really been raped, harassed etc. This seems like a witch hunt and is truly shameful.
 
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As far as I heard. He was hired to do season 2 of Morose Mononokean through Funimation.
Now he is longer hired.

Sounds like he was fired to me??



Going through what Monica Rial said in this tweet chain thing. She seems to have a very wide scope of what she deems as harassment.

You cannot hire nor fire an independent contractor. Maybe if it was in-house.

She literally has no evidence against other than "I got tickled!". #BeliveWamen
 

lifa-cobex

Member
You cannot hire nor fire an independent contractor. Maybe if it was in-house.

She literally has no evidence against other than "I got tickled!". #BeliveWamen

I maybe misconstruing Nicks stream but it seems like VA's have other roles such as hiring other VA's, editing dubs and mixing etc.
But if that's incorrect in Vic's case then yea you might be right.

I'm trying to look into if he had any other roles within Funimation.


Now they can break the contract at any time if the company finds reason that would harm the crop itself.
But what your not supposed to do is make a public statement on twitter like Funimation have done as it will completely salt the earth for Vics future employment with other corps. (Even more so as the staff can't shut up about it and just keep digging their own graves.)
I believe that's why he isn't suing Rooster Teeth as it was an at will contract.


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This blow out is fucking amazing. Heads are gonna roll

 
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petran79

Banned
Is it a coincidence this all emerged after Sony bought Funimation? New bonds are being formed and undesirables are weeded out
 

lifa-cobex

Member
Is it a coincidence this all emerged after Sony bought Funimation? New bonds are being formed and undesirables are weeded out

It's interesting right?

It's almost like it's prime time for people to be clawing at other peoples contracts.
It would be terribly shocking if any conspiracy's from certain sites and individuals were brought into light. :messenger_astonished:
 

PrCat88

Member
This looks more like someone who just wants wreck someone else's life. I don't believe this story one bit. This #metoo is doing more damage to women actually. And it does an injustice to people that have really been raped, harassed etc. This seems like a witch hunt and is truly shameful.
Between this and Jussie Smollett, they really do a disservice to people who have been assaulted.

Jussie speaks for itself, but this Vic controversy is being ushered by boneheadded voice actors on Twitter. Instead of teaching people to come forward to the police when sexually harassed and/or raped instead you should go to Twitter. That it's easier and more convenient to accuse a man of rape on Twitter than to file a police report.

And the meaning of sexual assault is now being expanded in a way where an unwanted hug or kiss on the cheek carries the same weight as rape or ass grabbing. My own European friends are telling me how overly sensitive Americans are becoming to signs of affection. No one says anything in the moment, but you're supposed to know someone isn't a hugger.

Or that awkward time someone made a move, was shot down, and moved on only for it to be a problem years later. I also think back to Aziz Ansari and how a bad sexual experience can be equated to #metoo, and it's a mess.
 
I maybe misconstruing Nicks stream but it seems like VA's have other roles such as hiring other VA's, editing dubs and mixing etc.
But if that's incorrect in Vic's case then yea you might be right.

I'm trying to look into if he had any other roles within Funimation.


Now they can break the contract at any time if the company finds reason that would harm the crop itself.
But what your not supposed to do is make a public statement on twitter like Funimation have done as it will completely salt the earth for Vics future employment with other corps. (Even more so as the staff can't shut up about it and just keep digging their own graves.)
I believe that's why he isn't suing Rooster Teeth as it was an at will contract.


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This blow out is fucking amazing. Heads are gonna roll



He has actually been contracted to other anime dubs as well other than Funimation. like Fantasy Soft and Bang! Zoom Entertainment.
 

oagboghi2

Member
Is it a coincidence this all emerged after Sony bought Funimation? New bonds are being formed and undesirables are weeded out
It's not just this. Both Goblin Slayer and Rise of the Shield Hero being hit with a wave of bad PR and negative articles from the likes of ANN and other anime outlets started propping up after Sony got involved with Funimation. It's like Sony emboldened them
 

petran79

Banned
It's not just this. Both Goblin Slayer and Rise of the Shield Hero being hit with a wave of bad PR and negative articles from the likes of ANN and other anime outlets started propping up after Sony got involved with Funimation. It's like Sony emboldened them

Youtube video above also mentioned the addition of Gamergate in another anime translation 1-2 years ago that caused a backlash. Now they'll have official support for such non-sense
 

lifa-cobex

Member




I'm on the fence about if this guy is wilfully ignorant or just generally stupid.
He's deciding to make Nicks arguments for him. Nick says that's not what i'm arguing.
"AH HA! I've got you now!".
 
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Dunki

Member
Is it a coincidence this all emerged after Sony bought Funimation? New bonds are being formed and undesirables are weeded out
This actually fits in line with Sony`s censorship tirade right now. Its most likely not even a big name in Sony but shitty people sitting at the right places. Same did happen with the ban of Hatred from Steam. It was never Gabes decision to do this. But hey they are currently destroying the Anime boom and I already see more and more people pirate their animes again. Same does happen with Crunchyroll by the way.
 
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God, Nick Rekieta is a whiskey-saturated treasure:



Yeah, it's three hours, but this is such a thoroughly entertaining absolute wrecking of a Google law "expert".
 

Conan-san

Member
lol he’s still not getting his job back tho
Thing is he might not want that at this point.

Even if he does win and his name is compeltly cleared the atmosphere between him and Funimation / RT is probably soured beyond repair.

Is it a coincidence this all emerged after Sony bought Funimation? New bonds are being formed and undesirables are weeded out
It's not just this. Both Goblin Slayer and Rise of the Shield Hero being hit with a wave of bad PR and negative articles from the likes of ANN and other anime outlets started propping up after Sony got involved with Funimation. It's like Sony emboldened them

The same sort of thing happened during the Fox Disney thing with James Gunn (though with him it was a lot worse as that was a lot of stupid bullshit he put on his Twitter account).
This sort of nonsense just seems to be the aftermath of two corps bumping uglies I suppose.

If that was also why Shield Hero got bumped off Funi's listings too I wouldn't be that suprised.
 
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-Minsc-

Member
~*~*~*I'm not reading everything*~*~*~

I think ALL Actors (Male) should abstain from interacting with fans (male and female) from now on and state that they do not want to be accused of harrassment. This will upset the true fans who will blame opportunists for this.


I believe actors and actresses should keep professional when dealing with fans, especially with those fans who are teen/young adult.

As for Vic, maybe he did cross too many lines through his life and maybe he didn't. From what I can understand about him it certainly seems like the dynamic is there for him to cross the line. It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt. I don't excuse Vic for anything he may have done, nor do I excuse the fans. Both Vic and the fans are likely on high horses. Vic just happens to be a public figure.

So, does anyone remember glomping?
 


An actual NPC


Did you see him get destroyed? Fucking idiot does not get what a "hypothetical" is.

If an out-of-state small town lawyer can figure out that much under Texas law to maneuver Vic for a successful lawsuit, imagine what a high-powered city lawyer from in the state can do.
 

lifa-cobex

Member
Did you see him get destroyed? Fucking idiot does not get what a "hypothetical" is.

If an out-of-state small town lawyer can figure out that much under Texas law to maneuver Vic for a successful lawsuit, imagine what a high-powered city lawyer from in the state can do.
The guy is legitimately nuts.
He didn't process anything said and had his own idea of how this all works.

Literally an NPC.
 
It's not just this. Both Goblin Slayer and Rise of the Shield Hero being hit with a wave of bad PR and negative articles from the likes of ANN and other anime outlets started propping up after Sony got involved with Funimation. It's like Sony emboldened them

Yes, the SJWs have the knives out full stop for anime, it was only a matter of time until they came for this culture and medium as well.

I am highly disappointed to see ANN lead the charge on this as I credit that website with keeping my interest in anime alive as it kinda waned from 2009 to 2011, I used to be a fan of guys like Mike Toole and the rest of the staff, now I think they're all huge assholes.

This actually fits in line with Sony`s censorship tirade right now. Its most likely not even a big name in Sony but shitty people sitting at the right places. Same did happen with the ban of Hatred from Steam. It was never Gabes decision to do this. But hey they are currently destroying the Anime boom and I already see more and more people pirate their animes again. Same does happen with Crunchyroll by the way.

Yes, this might be the second crash for the American anime industry, but so long as people's interest remains, that people keep watching it, what does it really matter? Why do we even need these middlemen like Funimation and Crunchy Roll? The western market has always been highly secondary to Japan anyway, so it's like too much would change if they all went under.

The loss of dubs would be a shame, but if most of these actors turn out to be assholes who eat their own, as we see with this situation, then really, who cares?

So, does anyone remember glomping?

Glomping, Yaoi paddles, there's a lot of shit that used to go on at anime cons that would get you #MeToo'd nowadays, it was just the way things were.

I remember Zac Bertschy of ANN talked on their podcast once about a 13 year old girl he saw at a con circa 2005 who was wielding a sign that said "kisses, 25 cents", it was just a wild atmosphere back then.
 

Calcium

Banned
My wife and I watched that Rekieta stream in its entirety this morning while we had breakfast. That dude was a fucking moron. We exploded with laughter when he got Nick to admit he wasn't Vic's lawyer and had nothing to do with the case. He presented it as this huge "Gotcha!" moment, clapping his hands in success and everything. Rekieta has always said he doesn't represent him in any capacity. I don't even understand how that dude gets butchered on the livestream and somehow comes out of it thinking he won.
 

lifa-cobex

Member
My wife and I watched that Rekieta stream in its entirety this morning while we had breakfast. That dude was a fucking moron. We exploded with laughter when he got Nick to admit he wasn't Vic's lawyer and had nothing to do with the case. He presented it as this huge "Gotcha!" moment, clapping his hands in success and everything. Rekieta has always said he doesn't represent him in any capacity. I don't even understand how that dude gets butchered on the livestream and somehow comes out of it thinking he won.
 
I don't know Vic and he might have had some inappropriate behavior before but I doubt he was the "yum love me some young flesh" monster that the Twitter court made him out to be. I don't buy the BS these vultures spit one bit. Him apologizing did nothing to quell the thirst for blood and made him an even easier pray. The other VAs joining the hunt to protect their asses shows their lack of integrity. So much for incarnating heroes. This accusation is too timely considering this quickly-spreading metoo disease.
 
NPC guy reminds me so much of my dad. I tried putting those nice garden hose quick connects on the hoses they use to water cattle so he could easily undo them (they lay in the yard, not in mud or anything where they would get damaged). He pitched a fit because he claimed they would slow the water flow down significantly, and anything I said to the contrary he would just answer with, "I don't think that's accurate."

I'm a chemical engineer ffs. I just could not figure out why he would not listen to someone who works with fluid dynamics on a daily basis.
 
I don't know Vic and he might have had some inappropriate behavior before but I doubt he was the "yum love me some young flesh" monster that the Twitter court made him out to be. I don't buy the BS these vultures spit one bit. Him apologizing did nothing to quell the thirst for blood and made him an even easier pray. The other VAs joining the hunt to protect their asses shows their lack of integrity. So much for incarnating heroes. This accusation is too timely considering this quickly-spreading metoo disease.

The only thing that seems odd is that whole thing with the religious school he worked at decades ago that seems to have covered something up. That's strange. The modern accusations seem like total bullshit.
 

petran79

Banned
The loss of dubs would be a shame, but if most of these actors turn out to be assholes who eat their own, as we see with this situation, then really, who cares?

I am not surprised really.
In Europe in order to participate in any dub you need to be a full fledged actor with experience in theater. Those educated actors would never resort to such methods. These guys only specialise in voice acting and nothing more.
 

-Minsc-

Member
Glomping, Yaoi paddles, there's a lot of shit that used to go on at anime cons that would get you #MeToo'd nowadays, it was just the way things were.

I remember Zac Bertschy of ANN talked on their podcast once about a 13 year old girl he saw at a con circa 2005 who was wielding a sign that said "kisses, 25 cents", it was just a wild atmosphere back then.

Anime cons became more popular and suddenly the socially awkward came face to face with the outside world they wanted to avoid. That's my take as a recovering socially awkward person.

NPC guy reminds me so much of my dad. I tried putting those nice garden hose quick connects on the hoses they use to water cattle so he could easily undo them (they lay in the yard, not in mud or anything where they would get damaged). He pitched a fit because he claimed they would slow the water flow down significantly, and anything I said to the contrary he would just answer with, "I don't think that's accurate."

I'm a chemical engineer ffs. I just could not figure out why he would not listen to someone who works with fluid dynamics on a daily basis.

I guess dad's have a hard time letting go of being the teacher.

The only thing that seems odd is that whole thing with the religious school he worked at decades ago that seems to have covered something up. That's strange. The modern accusations seem like total bullshit.

If he did something at that school then hopefully he learned his lesson. If not, then it's time he does. My take is he's still trying to act like a younger guy when the reality is he's getting older and farther from the younger people.
 

StormCell

Member
If he did something at that school then hopefully he learned his lesson. If not, then it's time he does. My take is he's still trying to act like a younger guy when the reality is he's getting older and farther from the younger people.

After reading everything in this thread, it doesn't sound like he did learn his lesson. Some are saying "produce the evidence" but there are just loads of accusations about this guy. I think I read he was fired from his teaching position decades ago. One of his female peers went over to his house to see a worship video he had produced and he ended up shirtless and on top of her. Totally unwanted. The stories are just countless and span decades. Why isn't this evidence enough?

To be clear, I'm never shocked when I hear about an acquaintance misreading a social situation and making an unwanted advance. It happens. This sounds like a systematic offender, though.
 

KOMANI

KOMANI
After reading everything in this thread, it doesn't sound like he did learn his lesson. Some are saying "produce the evidence" but there are just loads of accusations about this guy. I think I read he was fired from his teaching position decades ago. One of his female peers went over to his house to see a worship video he had produced and he ended up shirtless and on top of her. Totally unwanted. The stories are just countless and span decades. Why isn't this evidence enough?

To be clear, I'm never shocked when I hear about an acquaintance misreading a social situation and making an unwanted advance. It happens. This sounds like a systematic offender, though.
First I’m hearing this “shirtless on top story”. Have a source?
 

StormCell

Member
First I’m hearing this “shirtless on top story”. Have a source?

It's in post #24. I've quoted the story below.

Around a year ago, before this blew up, she posted a version of it:
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After reading everything in this thread, it doesn't sound like he did learn his lesson. Some are saying "produce the evidence" but there are just loads of accusations about this guy. I think I read he was fired from his teaching position decades ago. One of his female peers went over to his house to see a worship video he had produced and he ended up shirtless and on top of her. Totally unwanted. The stories are just countless and span decades. Why isn't this evidence enough?

No. There is a reason why accusations alone, especially for someone in the public eye, are not worth really anything. Let's just run some fictional numbers to show why:
Let's say that the odds of someone falsely accusing any given person is .01%, so 1/10,000. Sound really solid. Save, a public figure is likely known by millions, We would actually expect 100s of accusers to be false. Worse, because these kinds of accusations are themselves public, it is easy for new accusers to use the existing accusations to tweak their own to make them sound more believable and consistent. And then worst still, because this draws attention, once you start hitting a critical mass, everyone wants in on the action.

In this particular case we also have a lot of the 'friend of a friend' kind of accusations. Even if true, this means we could have 1 incident, loosely recount 50 different ways, making it sound like 50 separate incidents, when it isn't.


I'm not sold either way on this. I know someone personally who claims there is indeed merit to the claims, and I trust this person fairly well, but they themselves are doing a 2nd hand recounting, so it isn't solid enough for me. What I do know, though, is there is a lot of highly suspicious accusations in here as well. That is seriously muddying the waters on the this issue.
 

Whitesnake

Banned
After reading everything in this thread, it doesn't sound like he did learn his lesson. Some are saying "produce the evidence" but there are just loads of accusations about this guy. I think I read he was fired from his teaching position decades ago. One of his female peers went over to his house to see a worship video he had produced and he ended up shirtless and on top of her. Totally unwanted. The stories are just countless and span decades. Why isn't this evidence enough?

To be clear, I'm never shocked when I hear about an acquaintance misreading a social situation and making an unwanted advance. It happens. This sounds like a systematic offender, though.

Because stories and rumors, many of which have no known origin, are not sufficient to prove that Vic did anything.

Are you really on that #ListenAndBelieve shit right now?
 

StormCell

Member
Because stories and rumors, many of which have no known origin, are not sufficient to prove that Vic did anything.

Are you really on that #ListenAndBelieve shit right now?

Uh, yeah, especially when the stories and accusations have dates and locations that should be recorded and verifiable (ie. was terminated from teaching position for sexual misconduct with teenagers). How is that illogical on my part? Am I really expected to ignore accusations spanning multiple decades that even pre-date this so-called "gate"?
 

StormCell

Member
No. There is a reason why accusations alone, especially for someone in the public eye, are not worth really anything. Let's just run some fictional numbers to show why:
Let's say that the odds of someone falsely accusing any given person is .01%, so 1/10,000. Sound really solid. Save, a public figure is likely known by millions, We would actually expect 100s of accusers to be false. Worse, because these kinds of accusations are themselves public, it is easy for new accusers to use the existing accusations to tweak their own to make them sound more believable and consistent. And then worst still, because this draws attention, once you start hitting a critical mass, everyone wants in on the action.

In this particular case we also have a lot of the 'friend of a friend' kind of accusations. Even if true, this means we could have 1 incident, loosely recount 50 different ways, making it sound like 50 separate incidents, when it isn't.


I'm not sold either way on this. I know someone personally who claims there is indeed merit to the claims, and I trust this person fairly well, but they themselves are doing a 2nd hand recounting, so it isn't solid enough for me. What I do know, though, is there is a lot of highly suspicious accusations in here as well. That is seriously muddying the waters on the this issue.

Answer me honestly, did you read every post in this thread? Post #24 offers a nice list of compelling details around Vic. There's enough info there that we can verify whether it's legit. Sure, I understand that accusations are just that, but we have people from multiple walks of life across decades who have been complaining about his behavior. One of those cost him his job as a high school teacher. That's easy enough to prove or disprove.

I've got nothing personally against Vic. If I were in charge at Funimation, I probably don't rush to end the working relationship with him. However, his co-workers are lodging complaints, and that all by itself is hard for any employer to ignore.
 

KOMANI

KOMANI
Uh, yeah, especially when the stories and accusations have dates and locations that should be recorded and verifiable (ie. was terminated from teaching position for sexual misconduct with teenagers). How is that illogical on my part? Am I really expected to ignore accusations spanning multiple decades that even pre-date this so-called "gate"?
Wait a minute, no one verified he was fired from teaching because of any misconduct. Just rumors.
 
Answer me honestly, did you read every post in this thread? Post #24 offers a nice list of compelling details around Vic. There's enough info there that we can verify whether it's legit. Sure, I understand that accusations are just that, but we have people from multiple walks of life across decades who have been complaining about his behavior. One of those cost him his job as a high school teacher. That's easy enough to prove or disprove.

I've got nothing personally against Vic. If I were in charge at Funimation, I probably don't rush to end the working relationship with him. However, his co-workers are lodging complaints, and that all by itself is hard for any employer to ignore.

I don't see any actual evidence in post 24. I see an accusation, some consistent details but no actual evidence. There is enough there for me to say it deserves to be looked into and can't be arbitrarily discounted, but not even close to actually proving anything.
 

Whitesnake

Banned
Uh, yeah, especially when the stories and accusations have dates and locations that should be recorded and verifiable (ie. was terminated from teaching position for sexual misconduct with teenagers). How is that illogical on my part? Am I really expected to ignore accusations spanning multiple decades that even pre-date this so-called "gate"?

Yes. If they have no evidence and the person behind them doesn’t even have an intention to persue legal action, these accusations have no value,

You suggested that the accusations must be true because of the sheer number of them. That’s not how logic works and that’s not how the law works. If I have a bunch of anonymous people give claims (without evidence) that you’re a rapist, does that mean you’re a rapist?

It doesn’t matter if they’re “verifiable”, only if they’ve actually verified.

but we have people from multiple walks of life across decades who have been complaining about his behavior. One of those cost him his job as a high school teacher. That's easy enough to prove or disprove.

“This claim has insufficient evidence, so it’s probably true” is actually the dumbest idea I’ve heard on this website.
 
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Dunki

Member
After reading everything in this thread, it doesn't sound like he did learn his lesson. Some are saying "produce the evidence" but there are just loads of accusations about this guy. I think I read he was fired from his teaching position decades ago. One of his female peers went over to his house to see a worship video he had produced and he ended up shirtless and on top of her. Totally unwanted. The stories are just countless and span decades. Why isn't this evidence enough?

To be clear, I'm never shocked when I hear about an acquaintance misreading a social situation and making an unwanted advance. It happens. This sounds like a systematic offender, though.
Because you actually need evidence....

For example the picure that is going around which apparently shows Vic creepy behaviour. So far we know the women in this picture as called all the people ot who are accusing Vic based on this picture because A there was nothing creepy about it for her and B they laughed and had fun at an event.

There are multiple sources who also have shown how it was staged and in the end most of them connect to the same ideology and this is reason enough to believe VIC right now. I am not talking about the teacher stuff because I know nothing about but I am talking about the Anime Industry.

And when people come out and saying he did something while also admitting that they have hated VIC all the time already then yeah I will be more sceptical.
 

StormCell

Member
I don't see any actual evidence in post 24. I see an accusation, some consistent details but no actual evidence. There is enough there for me to say it deserves to be looked into and can't be arbitrarily discounted, but not even close to actually proving anything.
Yes. If they have no evidence and the person behind them doesn’t even have an intention to persue legal action, these accusations have no value,

You suggested that the accusations must be true because of the sheer number of them. That’s not how logic works and that’s not how the law works. If I have a bunch of anonymous people give claims (without evidence) that you’re a rapist, does that mean you’re a rapist?

It doesn’t matter if they’re “verifiable”, only if they’ve actually verified.



“This claim has insufficient evidence, so it’s probably true” is actually the dumbest idea I’ve heard on this website.
Because you actually need evidence....

For example the picure that is going around which apparently shows Vic creepy behaviour. So far we know the women in this picture as called all the people ot who are accusing Vic based on this picture because A there was nothing creepy about it for her and B they laughed and had fun at an event.

There are multiple sources who also have shown how it was staged and in the end most of them connect to the same ideology and this is reason enough to believe VIC right now. I am not talking about the teacher stuff because I know nothing about but I am talking about the Anime Industry.

And when people come out and saying he did something while also admitting that they have hated VIC all the time already then yeah I will be more sceptical.

Maybe my use of the word evidence is wrong here, because I'm not talking about the guy being put on trial or anything. No evidence of him having broken the law exists. I'm simply saying that his past employers have good enough reason to cut ties with him. If I were a manager and I'm fielding complaints from several people on my team about someone on the team (and it's definitely not the first time I'm hearing of the offenses happening), then I believe I would have sufficient reason not to continue to hire the person. That's the sufficient evidence I'm trying to describe here, and that's what I'm claiming should be enough "evidence" for us, on this forum, to form an opinion on.

I consider testimonies to be like evidence. I'm seeing several testimonies of Vic's actions, and while I wouldn't throw him jail it's enough for me to adjust my opinion of his character and consider him to be really cavalier in his sexual advances on ladies. I'm not sure it really violates the law, except maybe with the 16 year old depending on what state he was in, but it certainly reveals who his character might be.
 
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Dunki

Member
Maybe my use of the word evidence is wrong here, because I'm not talking about the guy being put on trial or anything. No evidence of him having broken the law exists. I'm simply saying that his past employers have good enough reason to cut ties with him. If I were a manager and I'm fielding complaints from several people on my team about someone on the team (and it's definitely not the first time I'm hearing of the offenses happening), then I believe I would have sufficient reason not to continue to hire the person. That's the sufficient evidence I'm trying to describe here, and that's what I'm claiming should be enough "evidence" for us, on this forum, to form an opinion on.

I consider testimonies to be like evidence. I'm seeing several testimonies of Vic's actions, and while I wouldn't throw him jail it's enough for me to adjust my opinion of his character and consider him to be really cavalier in his sexual advances on ladies. I'm not sure it really violates the law, except maybe with the 16 year old depending on what state he was in, but it certainly reveals who his character might be.
So it is ok to destroy a persons life because some people who in the end share he same ideology have connections etc are saying so? Man I am lucky to not have such an employer like you....

These are not simple he is an asshole accusations these accusations can kill his current life so we should not go with believe all women at all costs especially not when many of these accusations against vic and his supporters were already proven as bullshit and lies. AKA girl on the picture or someone getting swatted
 

lifa-cobex

Member
Maybe my use of the word evidence is wrong here, because I'm not talking about the guy being put on trial or anything. No evidence of him having broken the law exists. I'm simply saying that his past employers have good enough reason to cut ties with him. If I were a manager and I'm fielding complaints from several people on my team about someone on the team (and it's definitely not the first time I'm hearing of the offenses happening), then I believe I would have sufficient reason not to continue to hire the person. That's the sufficient evidence I'm trying to describe here, and that's what I'm claiming should be enough "evidence" for us, on this forum, to form an opinion on.

Well that's where it gets interesting.
The people who were conducting the investigations have ties with the people who made the accusations.
The same person who conducted the investigation also recently claimed she was swatted by the people who support Vic.
A day later the pictures she uploaded were proven fake.

This is where we are getting into conspiracy areas as Sony had recently purchased Funimation and contracts were up for grabs.
If the reports had been going on for years then why wasn't he ever investigated then. Why now?
 
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StormCell

Member
So it is ok to destroy a persons life because some people who in the end share he same ideology have connections etc are saying so? Man I am lucky to not have such an employer like you....

These are not simple he is an asshole accusations these accusations can kill his current life so we should not go with believe all women at all costs especially not when many of these accusations against vic and his supporters were already proven as bullshit and lies. AKA girl on the picture or someone getting swatted

I'm not a really good debater as I don't have a lot of patience for it. We're all making some assumptions. There's an assumption that all of his accusers are of the same ideology (SJW mob) and all of the accusations are being reported through the same investigator(s). Well, I've made an assumption that some of the accusations have come forward independently via social media from people who have nothing in common with the SJW mob. We both have assumptions at stake here.

Secondly, you're making an assumption that I've argued that it's okay to ruin someone because a bunch of people have complained about him. That's also not what I'm saying, however Vic works in a very public position where having fans (or in this case anti-fans) has impact on the products he works on. If not being able to be a VA destroys his life, then I'm not sure how it can be helped when a VA becomes notorious. My personal opinion is that he should be able to continue being a VA on some other team, but I see the problem here is that SJW mob (that we all love so dearly as to want to squeeze them very tightly until they suffocate) who will be relentless in dogging him no matter where he signs on to do voice work. I don't agree with that at all.

I'm trying hard to argue well with you all, even though some of you feel like popping off with "this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on GAF" comments.
 
In his latest livestream Nick had Ty Beard (Vic's Lawyer) as a guest again and from what they're saying, it seems like that they have enough evidence to pretty much win the defamation case, because everyone involved is an actual moron who can't keep their mouth shut.

The juicy bit was about tortious interference. Apparently Cons didn't cancel Vic because they believed the allegations as the #KickVic side was claiming, Cons cancelled him because Sabat, Marchi and Rial threatened to boycott the Cons if they had Vic come on as a guest.



33:20 - rundown of what happend with the cons
40:00 - Ty Beard talks for roughly 10 minutes about what they have and what some of their plans are. There's apparently two people, he gave them the names Igor and Iago, they're targeting specifically for tortious interference. One of them was apparently dumb enough to threaten one of Ty's other clients.

This was pretty much the most interesting part, but they're still talking about the case for another hour (with banter and super chats inbetween).
 
In his latest livestream Nick had Ty Beard (Vic's Lawyer) as a guest again and from what they're saying, it seems like that they have enough evidence to pretty much win the defamation case, because everyone involved is an actual moron who can't keep their mouth shut.

The juicy bit was about tortious interference. Apparently Cons didn't cancel Vic because they believed the allegations as the #KickVic side was claiming, Cons cancelled him because Sabat, Marchi and Rial threatened to boycott the Cons if they had Vic come on as a guest.



If this is true, which it seems to be, Sabat and friends may end up with criminal charges in addition to civil judgements.
33:20 - rundown of what happend with the cons
40:00 - Ty Beard talks for roughly 10 minutes about what they have and what some of their plans are. There's apparently two people, he gave them the names Igor and Iago, they're targeting specifically for tortious interference. One of them was apparently dumb enough to threaten one of Ty's other clients.

This was pretty much the most interesting part, but they're still talking about the case for another hour (with banter and super chats inbetween).


Sounds like extortion.
 
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Iago and Igor are their codenames for them.

It's speculated that Iago might be someone higher up from Roosterteeth. It might also be Chris Sabat. I guess we'll have to wait for some of the autists over at farms to dig around some more, they might find someone that fits the description of a guy with a business that likes to brag about his wealth. The other client that was threatened by Iago seems to be Todd Haberkorn.
 

Estellex

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Yeah, Monica Rial is looney tunes, regardless of whether Vic is guilty of anything or not, that much is clear.

I don't know the guy personally and it's not impossible he's a perv, but my gut instinct says that he's getting treated unfairly for two reasons, one is that he's always been an outspoken Christian and that rubs some people the wrong way, don't try to deny that's the case.

And two the optics of him hugging or kissing teen girls on the cheek is gonna look back to some, since we live in an anti-male culture there are those who just assume the guy must be getting off on that and it's not platonic.

It's a sad situation all around and anime fandom will never be the same, just like gaming culture was never the same after Gamergate, there's not a single fandom culture SJWs don't want to fuck with.

Are Christians hated?
 
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