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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online

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blackflag

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DaBuddaDa said:
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So basically Gies is saying #dealwithit

WHAT A SURPRISE ARTHUR GEESE.
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Lol holy shit. This stuff writes itself.

A mother fucking video game critic is saying we shouldn't criticize something we don't like.

I won't buy it mofo. That won't mean I'm not going to let my feelings known
 
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Sorral

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Dennis said:
That is Adam Orths NeoGAF handle.
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And what he wanted people around him at work to call him with, Sweet Billy, according to the Reddit guy who worked with him.

The reddit guy said it first, then someone here found the same handle with the same name in the post.
 
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Can Crusher

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It's amusing how some companies fail to see the strength of the hardcore fans word of mouth.

Look at Comic Con and the effect it had on Iron Man's success, leading it all up to The Avengers.

But I guess since MS never knew what hardcore fans were before the xbox, it has come down to this.

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Lol

Do your damn job.
 
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bebop242

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Dynopia said:
Is what I was getting at, is a PSN+ subscription going to be across PS3 + PS4 simultaneously?

I know the xbox thing is more serious, I was replying to that guys post about not getting the next xbox because he essentially doesn't own the games.
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But you are comparing a system wide setup where every game you ever get (bought or otherwise) for it has an expire date on it to a subscription program that gives you select free games that will more then likely expire when they pull the plug on PSN on PS3.

If the 720 lets you play all its games for free with a membership, I'd buy it day 1. Otherwise LOL
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Beer Monkey said:
How do you know that ultimate decision was made and that is the outcome?
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i don't, but there's not exactly anyone saying that it isn't true right now.


And yeah, when you fuck PR up this badly, you are gonna get fired. They might do it later when things quiet down, but you need to be a good boy on social networking.
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he's getting fired for tooting the company horn. right. let's go fire that guy criticizing Facebook Home, now.
 
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Voice of Reason

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DaBoss said:
Well, he is essentially saying vote with your wallet. No matter how big of an idiot he may be, what he is saying here is right.
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He's also implying all this outrage is pointless, we should just shutup and buy the other alternative. Why let shit like this happen in the first place though?
 
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Tripp Daily

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Shadders said:
He's probably just Creative Director at a Microsoft studio, and studios can have two or three Creative Directors. I think the seniority of his position at Microsoft may have been overstated.
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I kind of get that feeling as well. The notion that Ballmer or any top MS guy woke up this morning raging I think is a little oversold. I'm sure they know about it now, but I imagine Ballmer's response was probably "who is Adam Orth"? lol
 
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Demon Ice

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DaBuddaDa said:
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I love how he calls the decision to be always online stupid but then says "so what?" like it's no big deal literally in the same sentence. Poor guy doesn't even know what he thinks! I don't understand how people like him get jobs as journalists. Even game journalists should be able to write better than that.

Not to mention he comes off as a pretentious cunt in general.
 
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Shalashaska161

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The thing that is crazy to me is that people still don't seem to realize what they say on social media sites is public. There are so many cases like this happening that I can't believe people aren't careful of what they say on twitter and facebook by now, especially when talking about work related stuff.
 
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Pakkidis

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What are the chances that the service is overloaded on day 1 like sim city?
If the servers have problems does that mean nobody can play games?

I'm not sure how these things work. :(
 
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awa64

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<NeoGAF posters> If the next Xbox uses online-only DRM, I won't buy it! I'll buy a PS4.
<Arthur Gies> If the next Xbox uses online-only DRM, don't buy it. Buy a PS4.
<NeoGAF posters> What a condescending jackass.
 
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AstroNut325

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Pakkidis said:
What are the chances that the service is overloaded on day 1 like sim city?
If the servers have problems does that mean nobody can play games?

I'm not sure how these things work. :(
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Highly unlikely since the current XBL already supports millions of simultaneous users. Even if the 420 is a huge hit they won't have more than a few million consoles in the launch window sold to consumers.
 
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Miles Quaritch

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Demon Ice said:
I love how he calls the decision to be always online stupid but then says "so what?" like it's no big deal literally in the same sentence. Poor guy doesn't even know what he thinks! I don't understand how people like him get jobs as journalists. Even game journalists should be able to write better than that.

Not to mention he comes off as a pretentious cunt in general.
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Well, he is right. So what if it is, it's simply made the choice of which console to buy much easier.

I understand he's not the most liked individual on this forum, but the undercurrent of hate and personal insults directed toward him is becoming pretty disgusting.
 
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venne

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I guess I am don't see an issue with this until I know the whole story with the next Xbox.

It's like saying that a recipe calls for tofu and you instantly pissing on it because you hate the very idea of tofu even though you don't know what else is in the dish and why it calls for tofu.

Maybe people should withhold judgment until the Xbox is presented. Microsoft is moving towards a software as a service company and we are viewing this through the traditional lens of $60 game discs. Maybe that isn't what they have in mind.
 
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ironcreed

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Dead Man said:
Gies:

Arthur Gies&#8207;@aegies3m
if (stupidly) the next xbox is always online, then really, so what? there's another system that's not. buy that.

The point is missed by a significant margin.
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Nice. First he admits it would be stupid, but then proceeds to say, "So what?"
 
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GiantBreadbug

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I'll go ahead and throw my internet situation onto the pile.

I have HughesNet, which for those of you who don't know, is basically broadband delivered via satellite.

We recently upgraded our equipment and plan (at the cost of hundreds of dollars and a new 2-year contract), and here's what we have now:

- Monthly Data Cap of 10 GB. This amounts to about 300 MB per day. The allowance drains with every click and stream, and resets at the beginning of every month.

- Max download speeds of 15 Mbps. Tested myself and have found the average to be between 6-9 Mbps.

- Frequent connection losses due to the unstable nature of satellite technology in a rural area with many obstructions (weather, landscape, etc.)

We pay $65 per month for this. Just before we upgraded, we were paying the same thing for MAX SPEEDS OF 1 MBPS AND DAILY CAPS OF 250 MB.

This, and services that are literally identical, are our only options. The connections are not conducive to games consoles. They are slow, inconsistent, and restricted in terms of bandwidth.

How goddamn hard is it for people to realize that there are hundreds of thousands of people in similar situations. This is the reality of our world. Not everyone is always connected.

People. Come on.
 
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BeerSnob

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Voice of Reason said:
So we're not allowed to criticize shit like this that plague the industry? We're supposed to sit like geese (lol) and eat it all up like him.

Go fuck yourself Gies.
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Hey, someone has to stand up for multibillion dollar companies and and regurgitate their PR offerings. Otherwise their customer base might get the idea that it was OK to disagree with them.
 
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Dead Man

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awa64 said:
<NeoGAF posters> If the next Xbox uses online-only DRM, I won't buy it! I'll buy a PS4.
<Arthur Gies> If the next Xbox uses online-only DRM, don't buy it. Buy a PS4.
<NeoGAF posters> What a condescending jackass.
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Nope. Try again, with context. He is dismissive of the dicsussion, that is what pisses people off. It's what he does. He is a games journalist who tells people they ahouldsnb't bother talking about games and the industry.
 
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Mystic_Wanderer

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venne said:
I guess I am don't see an issue with this until I know the whole story with the next Xbox.

It's like saying that a recipe calls for tofu and you instantly pissing on it because you hate the very idea of tofu even though you don't know what else is in the dish and why it calls for tofu.

Maybe people should withhold judgment until the Xbox is presented. Microsoft is moving towards a software as a service company and we are viewing this through the lens of $60 game discs. Maybe that isn't what they have in mind.
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That's an even worse analogy than the vacuum cleaner one - and that's saying something.
 
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Crawl

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god damnit its too bad apple just beat ms for the worst company in america on the consumerist, before this news went live.
 
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Tripp Daily

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DaBuddaDa said:
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So basically Gies is saying #dealwithit

WHAT A SURPRISE ARTHUR GEESE.
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WHAT? He is telling you to buy a PS4 if the next Xbox is online. By not buying the next Xbox you wouldn't be "dealing with it" you would be actively taking a stand.

I really don't understand the hate for Aegies. He has done nothing but quote his opinion and attempt to give information on the next Xbox (which by his own admittance knew more about than the next PS4) to consumers (us).

This is just ridiculous blind hate. You are the very definition of what it means to be a moving goal post.

artist said:
What a scumbag, shame that I even interacted with this guy ..
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Ad hominem is an ignorant way to make an argument. Rise above it.
 
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aurahack

Neo Member
Miles Quaritch said:
Well, he is right. So what if it is, it's simply made the choice of which console to buy much easier.

I understand he's not the most liked individual on this forum, but the undercurrent of hate and personal insults directed toward him is becoming pretty disgusting.
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Yeah, I think people are kind of misreading what he means there. He's not an arrogant idiot-- he's just saying vote with your wallet. Don't like what Microsoft has planned for you? Support the other guy. That hurts them infinitely more than vulgar words on the internet will.
 
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Fistwell

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criesofthepast said:
How does greenberg not know who the creative director at Microsoft studios is?
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He's a creative director, not the. Like a VP at Goldman Sachs. Eveyrone and their little cousins are VPs.

coldfoot said:
What is the source for the "Sweet Billy" reference in the sunhi gif? What does it mean?
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Calls himself that. Wants people to call him that. In fact, call him Adam and he'll, reportedly, be a dick to you and ignore your ass. It's also his name on GAF.
 
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