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Looks like MisterXMedia theories...
Looks like MisterXMedia theories...
Oh god now they’re duct taping PS4s together.
Look at the chiplets they have 9 CUs per stack which goes perfect with PS4 18 CUs if it's 2 layers , now add 512MB memory chips to the top of each CU stack & that's 18GBs of GDDR5
Wouldn't putting more PS4's GPU together increase the power consumption and temperatures?I have reasons to believe that PS5 is really 4 PS4 GPU chiplets & really will have GDDR5 memory at a really high bandwidth because the chips will be stacked on the GPU CU's
osirisblack said PS5 had 18 GBs of GDDR5 @ over 800GB/s this sound crazy but if they are 3D stacking PS4 chiplets it could be 1GB of GDDR5 connected to ever 4 CU's.
Bonus the same chiplets can be used for cloud gaming severs to stream PS4 & PS5 games .
So it will be 4x the flops?
I have reasons to believe that PS5 is really 4 PS4 GPU chiplets & really will have GDDR5 memory at a really high bandwidth because the chips will be stacked on the GPU CU's
osirisblack said PS5 had 18 GBs of GDDR5 @ over 800GB/s this sound crazy but if they are 3D stacking PS4 chiplets it could be 1GB of GDDR5 connected to ever 4 CU's.
Bonus the same chiplets can be used for cloud gaming severs to stream PS4 & PS5 games .
Honestly nothing what you said seems possible.
1. GDDR5 is not stack-able. Period. Neither is GDDR6. Neither you can integrate them on interposer. Only way you can stack and get it on interposer is via HBM. It is also impossible at least for now for GDDR6 ot even reach something like 800GB/s let alone GDDR5. It would require gigantic bus work. Recently released 2080 and 2080Ti PCBs show exactly how much space take GDDR6 wiring.
2. While i have same theory that it will have chiplet gpu, 4 dies for gpu alone is definitely out of question At best you will be looking at 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die and either 1 GPU die or 3 GPU dies. The wild idea of mine here is that they will make 3 gpu dies but only 1 die will be for a actuall gpu work, 1 for physics accelerator and 1 for something else like ray tracing.
4 die combo seems the most probable. 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die, 1 GPU die and either 2nd gpu die or fixed function die for something like physics accelerator/raytracing etc.
Honestly nothing what you said seems possible.
1. GDDR5 is not stack-able. Period. Neither is GDDR6. Neither you can integrate them on interposer. Only way you can stack and get it on interposer is via HBM. It is also impossible at least for now for GDDR6 ot even reach something like 800GB/s let alone GDDR5. It would require gigantic bus work. Recently released 2080 and 2080Ti PCBs show exactly how much space take GDDR6 wiring.
2. While i have same theory that it will have chiplet gpu, 4 dies for gpu alone is definitely out of question At best you will be looking at 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die and either 1 GPU die or 3 GPU dies. The wild idea of mine here is that they will make 3 gpu dies but only 1 die will be for a actuall gpu work, 1 for physics accelerator and 1 for something else like ray tracing.
4 die combo seems the most probable. 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die, 1 GPU die and either 2nd gpu die or fixed function die for something like physics accelerator/raytracing etc.
Honestly nothing what you said seems possible.
1. GDDR5 is not stack-able. Period. Neither is GDDR6. Neither you can integrate them on interposer. Only way you can stack and get it on interposer is via HBM. It is also impossible at least for now for GDDR6 ot even reach something like 800GB/s let alone GDDR5. It would require gigantic bus work. Recently released 2080 and 2080Ti PCBs show exactly how much space take GDDR6 wiring.
2. While i have same theory that it will have chiplet gpu, 4 dies for gpu alone is definitely out of question At best you will be looking at 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die and either 1 GPU die or 3 GPU dies. The wild idea of mine here is that they will make 3 gpu dies but only 1 die will be for a actuall gpu work, 1 for physics accelerator and 1 for something else like ray tracing.
4 die combo seems the most probable. 1 I/O die, 1 CPU die, 1 GPU die and either 2nd gpu die or fixed function die for something like physics accelerator/raytracing etc.
More fake than me. Hope the hbm dream still not dead.
I honestly don't think the PS5 is using an APU. If Sony is aiming for a $499 price point, I think they will use a discrete GPU. Especially since they want to continue with V.R.Let’s stop with MisterXMedia theories please.
PS5 is as simple as PS4 just with a stronger APU in 7nm plus GDDR6.
That's a deep cut. Is that guy still around?!?!? Still waiting on that hidden 2nd GPU.Looks like MisterXMedia theories...
Ps4^2 ultra instict
Oh god now they’re duct taping PS4s together.
considering there are no leaks yet. its very safe to say its not coming this year 100%. anyway that should have been obvious.
i think every rumor so far was sort of made up. none of them add up to others
I still think the RuthenicCookie rumours are possible.
The GDDR5 wouldn't be stacked on each other they would be connected to the Chiplets
I honestly don't think the PS5 is using an APU. If Sony is aiming for a $499 price point, I think they will use a discrete GPU. Especially since they want to continue with V.R.
PSX 2019/Early 2020 official teaser.
E3 2020 Reveal.
November 2020 release.
Why on Earth would Sony do that?Sony is skipping E3 this year. Which kind of shows that PS5 at minimum will be announced this year and my bet it holiday 2019 release.
Why on Earth would Sony do that?
Cut the generation one year earlier when they clearly are killing it? Why waste one year of hardware and software sales just for the sake of releasing a new console?
There are still exclusives to release, prices to be cut, preparations to be made...
I can't imagine they saying: "Oh look, the PS4 is still going strong and we're almost at 100 million so lets just kill it."
Sony leaving E3 2019 pretty much confirmed they're not releasing PS5 in 2019.
I felt quite the opposite.
I expect them to have their own conference to reveal and announce the PS5 releases date.
So why would they not be at E3 at all then? Or do you think they'd announce the PS5 after E3 like in August and then release it in October of this year?
PS4 just sold better globally than last year (by 50% or something?), what's the gain or rush with 2019?Exactly, but with a release it in November like they did with the PS4.
Why you think if PS5 realeases in 2019 they'll kill PS4, does PS4 killed PS3 or PS3 killed PS2 that happened? the benefits for releasing PS5 this year:Why on Earth would Sony do that?
Cut the generation one year earlier when they clearly are killing it? Why waste one year of hardware and software sales just for the sake of releasing a new console?
There are still exclusives to release, prices to be cut, preparations to be made...
I can't imagine they saying: "Oh look, the PS4 is still going strong and we're almost at 100 million so lets just kill it."
I think that's exactly the reason, don't want to show up games twice specially for the new console.So why would they not be at E3 at all then? Or do you think they'd announce the PS5 after E3 like in August and then release it in October of this year?
PS4 just sold better globally than last year (by 50% or something?), what's the gain or rush with 2019?
Wouldn't putting more PS4's GPU together increase the power consumption and temperatures?
I think an announcement will come in 2019, but not the release itself.The rush is, Microsoft is going to get out in front of them if they don't release a PS5.
You know what I meant. This thread proves the point. The point is that announcing PS5 would interfere with PS4's HW and SW sales, specially if Sony takes the PS5 is fully backwards compatible with PS4's library here's your PS4 games running upgraded approach. Extending the PS4 lifetime would actually be better for us. Imagine just login in your PSN account on PS5 and having all your PS4 games ready to go and upgraded.Why you think if PS5 realeases in 2019 they'll kill PS4, does PS4 killed PS3 or PS3 killed PS2 that happened? the benefits for releasing PS5 this year:
- First to start next-gen big advantage over competitors
- Releasing before 2020 summer olympics great advertisement for the system
- Price advantage over competitors because of older system
I think that's exactly the reason, don't want to show up games twice specially for the new console.
You know what I meant. This thread proves the point. The point is that announcing PS5 would interfere with PS4's HW and SW sales, specially if Sony takes the PS5 is fully backwards compatible with PS4's library here's your PS4 games running upgraded approach. Extending the PS4 lifetime would actually be better for us. Imagine just login in your PSN account on PS5 and having all your PS4 games ready to go and upgraded.
Maybe minor impact would be appreciable for PS4 in HW sales but nothing major, avarage consumer doesn't think or care about PS5 all he cares is price, we're neogafers are not avarage consumers we're minority of PS userbase, and software would't have any impact, because new released games will be available on PS5 also, until PS4 can't keep up with PS5 in gfx but that's after couple years of PS5 realease.You know what I meant. This thread proves the point. The point is that announcing PS5 would interfere with PS4's HW and SW sales, specially if Sony takes the PS5 is fully backwards compatible with PS4's library here's your PS4 games running upgraded approach. Extending the PS4 lifetime would actually be better for us. Imagine just login in your PSN account on PS5 and having all your PS4 games ready to go and upgraded.
Exactly, but with a release in November like they did with the PS4.
I think that's exactly the reason, don't want to show up games twice specially for the new console.