Officerrob
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What the hell happened to Gran Turismo 6?
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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What the hell happened to Gran Turismo 6?
gundamkyoukai
Member
Agree i mean there are 4 million X1 and PS4 owners in NA if 0.5% buy TR on DD it would have pass 100k .
Still we have no way of knowing since NPD does not track DD sales .
maneil99
Member
Good to see the predictions most of us made many months ago even before PS4 released that Microsoft will only have North America as it's strongest market and lose every other market in one fell swoop.
Even in North America it will be a complete disaster compared to 360 marketshare now playing a distant second for the entirety of this gen.
Can't wait for 3rd parties to completely ignore the considerably weaker platform and no need to go for parity holding back PS4/PC.
They will never drop the X1 unless its considerably behind
Aquamarine
Member
They did a trial run of DD sales in December and they're planning a full-scale implementation of digital tracking.
badcrumble
Member
Because you actually want to make up for the costs sunk into R&D and marketing, not just the production cost of each console.
Have to wait until March really, with Dark Souls 2, titanfall for 360, and Southpark
Franchise fatigue? They're not exactly that different and putting it on the same console instead of next gen doesn't help.
theprodigy
Member
RIP Wii U
There we go
I started by saying "IF". If they are making profit then all this doom and gloom is for nothing.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Which should be great because DD is growing and with that data missing it was going to be much harder to get a clear picture of things .
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Look I am not saying everyone is buying digitally all the time, but it is a viable option that people are going to take advantage of. At the very least 2200 people bought TR
E on PSN and decided to take the time to rate it, which is usually a low percentage of people that do that.Boombloxer
Member
Basic historical stats prove both of you wrong.
PS4 is fine according to the beginning of last gens numbers, XB1 is lower. Combined, they're not that far off from the beginning of last gen, and even later than that (difference in the later years is about 100k for the HD twins).
The above info is out there, so I'm not sure why this strange opinion of "doomed" is really being believed.
Doomed is WiiU estimates.
If DD on consoles really is becoming popular and that is the cause for lower physical sales, one must wonder how well Steam Machines will do. It is, in essence, a console backed completely by Valve, who understand the digital market more than any other PC or console digital distributor. It could end up being a hit among console players who don't want to touch PC Gaming but want to check out Steam.
NullPointer
Member
We don't know if it sold like shit yet do we?
And what are the sales expectations even like for a title like this? You've got the smaller user base, the re-release of a game, at full price, with zero new content. I'd hope those expectations were modest.
Interesting month.
IMO, It's not surprising that last gen home consoles are tanking now for at least two reasons. They have been out 7-8 years. If console sales follow a parametric/normal curve, we are on the far far right of it. Additionally, with the pent up demand for next gen, and a relatively decent price point for the ps4, people are likely jumping ship quickly. Hence record breaking launches for both consoles. Software sales are less easily comparable to previous gen as digital sales are increasingly significant but aren't tracked AFAIK.
PS4 is doing very well, especially if you compare week by week sales to previous launches. Worldwide they must be selling massive numbers. If you presume that the ps4 sold all that they could ship, and that the xbox one shipped similar numbers, it seems possible that MS only sold half the consoles they shipped.
Dedicated handheld gaming is in decline, but we all know this.
IMO, It's not surprising that last gen home consoles are tanking now for at least two reasons. They have been out 7-8 years. If console sales follow a parametric/normal curve, we are on the far far right of it. Additionally, with the pent up demand for next gen, and a relatively decent price point for the ps4, people are likely jumping ship quickly. Hence record breaking launches for both consoles. Software sales are less easily comparable to previous gen as digital sales are increasingly significant but aren't tracked AFAIK.
PS4 is doing very well, especially if you compare week by week sales to previous launches. Worldwide they must be selling massive numbers. If you presume that the ps4 sold all that they could ship, and that the xbox one shipped similar numbers, it seems possible that MS only sold half the consoles they shipped.
Dedicated handheld gaming is in decline, but we all know this.
Aquamarine
Member
20 posts above you.
1) Call of Duty Ghosts: ~0.33 million
2) NBA 2K14
3) Battlefield 4: (somewhere less than 0.22 milllion)
4) Assassin's Creed IV: (somewhere less than 0.22 million)
5) Grand Theft Auto V: ~0.17 million
6) Madden NFL 25: ~0.15 million
7) Minecraft
8) FIFA 14
9) LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
10) Tomb Raider 2013
Definitive Edition: <0.085 million (Creamsugar)
XX) Wii Fit U: <0.020 million (Creamsugar)
And I bet they are not, not with the way they have been spending money. No ifs about it.
So you think the folks at Redmond are sitting there all chummy with eachother, satisfied that their direct competitor is eating up a majority of potential marketshare out the gate, thus lapping the most consumers into buying into the more profitable areas of console gaming i.e. software & services.
Clueless.
Aquamarine
Member
Never mind.
boredandlazy
Member
PS4.
Reminds me of the godawful Wii u launch but this one at least had technical advantages
THAT HAD BETTER NOT HAVE BEEN VITA NUMBERS DAMNIT
NullPointer
Member
Thanks
And that's for 3-5 days? That's what others were saying earlier in the thread so I figured it was too soon to really tell.
Crazy isn't it? Just like its crazy that there's nothing on the PS4 to scratch that driving itch besides Rivals. And as far as I know, no dates for what little we do know of that's coming down the line.
It wasn't.
Aquamarine
Member
Thanks
And that's for 3-5 days? That's what others were saying earlier in the thread so I figured it was too soon to really tell.
5 days of tracking.
I hate to pester you, but can you at least confirm whether the stat that PS3+PS4>Everything included handhelds? Either way thanks for all the info you've given so far.
Zabant
Member
I don't even know what to say about this deflection:
Twitter is such an incredible place.
The COO of a multi-billion dollar corporation is responding to, and getting defensive about a comment made by a fan.
If only this sort of thing was around in the sega-nintendo days.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
From what I gather the PS4 is very scalable when it comes to cost reduction with the RAM only getting cheaper. The Xbone not so much.
That fewer risks are being taken by publishers is them shooting themselves in the foot. Clearly Sony is. Rime, Shadow of the Beast, Everbody's Gone to the Rapture, etc. Games they're making because they want to.
That the Xbone and WiiU isn't selling is just a sign that they're bad consoles that aren't appealing to consumers. The PS4 is constantly sold out and is on waiting lists all over the world. You shouldn't buy consoles just to support inferior products. That's not good for competition and nobody benefits.
With Nintendo's decline this time only creates a place for competition. Perhaps we can see the coming of a new company. This isn't the time for gloom. Unless you adapt and try to meet consumers you die out. That's how competition works.
Officerrob
Banned
Lets just break things down a little bit:
PS4: Selling very well, especially since it was at the very least moderately supply constrained
Xbox One: Disappointing, no other way to say it
Wii U: A continued disaster
360 and PS3: Still too expensive, but sales just went off a cliff
3DS: A MASSIVE decline
Vita: Dead as a doornail
Outside of the PS4, things are not pretty
Holy shit dude...
I can't believe 3DS sold less than 84k, it would be far too near to Wii U (49k), for God's sake, which was (I think)barely up YOY when considering the difference in weeks. I suppose that Sony statement didn't include handhelds.
We need something on that...a sign ;_;
We need something on that...a sign ;_;
SwiftDeath
Member
But how is the Ouya V2 doing? That's the real question
Bruno MB
Member
That's very low, for example, last January the Xbox 360 version of Call of Duty: Black Ops II did better.
Yes the PS4 and Xbone had record launches. But the Xbone has also had a record collapse.
Last gen also didn't just fall, it collapsed.
-67% from last January (adjusted)
Xbox 360 January 2014:
-78% from last January (adjusted)
People suggesting a contraction eliminating AAA games and allowing opportunity for mid tier or indie games, it's not gonna work. People are not going to pay $400-$500 for mid tier games. They wouldn't even pay $300.
Last gen also didn't just fall, it collapsed.
-67% from last January (adjusted)
Xbox 360 January 2014:
-78% from last January (adjusted)
People suggesting a contraction eliminating AAA games and allowing opportunity for mid tier or indie games, it's not gonna work. People are not going to pay $400-$500 for mid tier games. They wouldn't even pay $300.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Absolutely, I know I was interested. Key word "was". The Steam Box thing is about as convoluted a purchase as just going to the store and buying a mid range PC, and putting in a graphics card. Too many options, most being expensive, Linux based OS means fewer games to play. Who knows, maybe they will have an Android like success. It just seems poorly handled at this point, and interest is tepid at best right now.
Aquamarine
Member
Yeah, Call of Duty: Ghosts had a massive 44% YOY decline this month from last year's version.
Dat franchise fatigue.
I am saying that if they are making a profit out of the X1 then they are not fucked even if the PS4 dominates them in units sold.
I'm starting to think Aqua isn't giving us 3DS and Vita numbers for 2 reasons.
1. They hurt her soul
2. The vita numbers might kill SmokeyDave from alcohol poisoning
Officerrob
Banned
Probably doesn't help that the word of mouth has been abysmal for Ghosts
outunderthestars
Banned
I just spent $400 on a PS4 to play Octodad. In fact, I generally only play games that would be considered "mid tier" for the most part.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Not to toot my own horn... actually fk it I'm gonna toot it. I said about 1 to 1.5 years ago that the writing was on the wall for the 3DS and that it would be "done by Fall 2015". I got laughed at, called a troll, just ripped apart. So yeah... GG.
Excellent
One company out of 3 doing OK on the console front does NOT equal a healthy industry. Publishers depend on more than that. That post wasn't about teams and fanboy stuff - it was about a contracting market all around. PS4 will likely be sold for a loss for a while, btw. It's going to be out of mass market price range for a while and so will the other 2 new consoles.
plutoknight
Member
RIP Wii ______
inb4 "but people just bought it digitally/fit meter!"
Actually, it seemed a ton of retailers, least here in the US, didn't even bother stocking the damn thing. I know my retail company didn't order any until after the fiscal year turned over for us (Feb). I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else did the same, seeing the current Wii U situation.
Not defending it, per se (I expected Wii Fit U to bomb.), just stating an observation. (at .020m, or 20k, that's...higher than TW101? But did it get edited? I'm seeing .020 and .015 now..)
January is such a dull month for games....
Last month she didn't give 3DS number either. I guess she not want for some reason.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
For who though? I thought software sales were doing amazing numbers during the PS1/2 era? I mean certainly it's bad for MS and Nintendo software obviously, but again, I think separation of resources and having to choose which platform to develop for has a worse impact on software development.
Of course I could just be talking out of my ass.