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NPD Sales Results for May 2015
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Release new content to appease the existing userbase and not piss off the fans they have until NX is out.
I fail to see how you can't see it...maybe you will after Tuesday
The Grim Reaper
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donny2112 doesn't have access to NPD data.
September to coincide with the MGSV launch is my guess.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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Hmm, I suspected that was the order but I had my doubts with the great deals going on PC.
Doubtful but would be marvelous. Many are guessing the new Paris venue to announce a price drop to try and dent Halo 5's launch. Sony in the cockblocking business as well.
pixelation
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I think it will drop off the chart just like The Order did, Wii U kids were hungry for a new game.
Exactly. Just hoping someone who likes 3-pointers might have a favorite score from the NBA finals or something. Any Cavs fans? Warriors fans? (I remember Chris Mullin from way back. Neat to see the Warriors doing well!)
Obliterator
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Release new content to appease the existing userbase and not piss off the fans they have until NX is out.
I fail to see how you can't see it...maybe you will after Tuesday
Thanks guys lot's of good opinions in here. Was just curious how ya'll were feeling on it.
I fail to see how they can move really any hardware at all 1 year and a half from now is all. It barely sells anything now, let alone that far out.
Their forecast for 2015 is pretty much the same as for 2014, so they don't plan to move more Wii Us. For 2016 they will probably bet on Zelda (and maybe Pokken) and I assume they will forecast also around 3 mio. consoles sold. 2017 will probably be the slow death.
Think they're just trying to ride out this gen without losing too much money and see how things go next time around.
Obliterator
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Yeah makes sense. At least they are being realistic with their projections.
Agreed 100%
If they do drop the price, which i don't think they will, it will only be by $50.
I just can't see them doing it, even if sales are staying flat they must be making a decent amount of money per unit by now, and they need that at the moment.
The Grim Reaper
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Astute observation. Nintendo's FY forecasts are very telling as to their Wii U ambitions.
Nintendo's FY3/2016 projections are virtually the same as their pitiful FY3/2015 shipments, implying that they've accepted the Wii U's fate and are writing it off. They're focused on what's next.
Well I think for Nintendo it's no longer a plan of "We have to shift X amount of hardware" for the Wii U. That train left the station a long time ago, which is why their forecast for sales is the same year-on-year as it has been the last two, at a paltry 3 million units for the fiscal year.
What Nintendo need to do, and what they are doing, is still support the Wii U, showing that they don't care and still make fantastic titles. Will it push the Wii U more? Maybe a little. Will it make it turn around? Nope. Unfortunately, the Wii U's image has been wrecked over the last few years and there's no turning it around. It's a shame as the Wii U is such a fun console with such a fantastic line-up, but ah well.
What they're doing now is expanding the company so they can take a hit like the Wii U and the 3DS's huge price drop (massive loss with the console, and it then took off) without it damaging the bottomline. amiibo have really helped with this, and the other avenues they're going into look set to keeping Nintendo in the black now that they have returned to profit.
sörine;167453999 said:
Eeeeh, I don't know, I think we should search for even more infos on digital sales and...you know what would be a nice way to get a better picture? The Wii U only (no VC) all-Time US Charts, I think. Anyone who can post the top 20, or at least the part where Splatoon charted (if it charted at all?)
Yooooo, that's fantastic!
Thanks for sharing that with me, the game was pretty good.
Well if riding it out means the next console will have a competent launch window of games, sure, eat the costs now....
eh what am i saying
Nintendo wrote the Wii U off a long time ago.
Chobel
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How did you calculate this?
The Grim Reaper
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I corrected that just as you posted. Sorry about that!
But yeah. The last time that Nintendo was truly optimistic about Wii U's fortunes was back in 2013.
Remember that "9 million consoles shipped!" FY forecast?
By the time Holiday 2013 rolled around, that was it.
Obliterator
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Great breakdown, good post.
I also agree with this. Maybe as a cross gen launch but I don't see it being solely on Wii U. I think they are a bit afraid of it under performing on the hardware and not having the level of success it should.
Doesn't make any sense not to. It's like giving away free sales looking at the attach rate of Wii U big sellers and how Hyrule Warriors sold worldwide. It might at worse be on Wii U and the next console, but not launching at all is ridiculous. It's like carrying your wounded horse on your back until home and shooting him once you're there.
Whatever they come up with next, i will buy, almost regardless.
The amount of fun i've had, both playing games on WiiU myself or with my family has been worth every penny i paid for the console, it is sheer fun in a little plastic box, and them continuing to bring out new things despite not having the vast userbase of the other consoles shows their commitment to the people who buy their hardware, what more can you ask for from a company whos purpose is to make money.
That would have been good but I don't think it's happening.
Plan seems to be to ride it out at current price with key bundles (Batman,MGSV), in the meantime a new hardware revision is ready and they have all the time to stockpile units to sell millions during the holiday season, in late October it's time for their holiday season ''promotion'', 299$ for the barebone 500GB model and premium bundles with games and the 1TB SKU at a higher price.
SolicitorPirate
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The thing about Nintendo is that they're a lot less reliant on hardware and software sales as Sony and MS. A diversified revenue stream from Amiibos, licensing and future initiatives like that upcoming themepark should keep them in the black despite the tragic wii u sales.
Also great to see Splatoon making a strong debut. I expect to see good legs on that one. My initial guess was 1m lifetime, but I think it should be able to hit 1.5 to 2m lifetime.
Also great to see Splatoon making a strong debut. I expect to see good legs on that one. My initial guess was 1m lifetime, but I think it should be able to hit 1.5 to 2m lifetime.
Edited my post to say exclusively. I think it will have to have a NX launch window release. Otherwise that puts the next Zelda at what, 2020? Unless they do a remaster.
March of the Crabs
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I agree. I've been buying Nintendo consoles my whole life but the Wii U is what finally won e over to the point I'll purchase whatever they put out next blindly. Most fun I've ever had with a game console thanks to all the local stuff.
Zelda U might be ported to the next console, but it will definitely launch on the Wii U
EDIT:
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Joeshabadoo
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Price cuts, Zelda (yes itll hit U), some other software surprises, mobile software with some loose ties to companion Wii U titles, some big amiibo centric game, some game that makes very curious use of the sub screen? It's a dark spot for sure, but they're scrappy and will be okay
Ah, ok. That it is possible. My personal opinion is that Zelda is not such a big system seller and they should rather focus on having at least 2 of the big sellers (MK,SSB,Mario 2d) at launch. Maybe even Splatoon 2. Zelda fares better in the second part of the life of a Nintendo system.
Plus, their potential success on the mobile market might also influence quite heavily the future plans.
Price cuts are iffy. What Nintendo as a company don't want, because they can't absorb it, is to price cut a console so that it's at a loss and then have it take off. It happened before and led to them having the first of 3 years of financial loss. The 3DS needed a price cut, but they lopped too much off and made it very enticing. It took off like mad, with 11 million units sold in the 6 months following the price cut, but with it all at a loss. That is quite damaging to a company that, unlike Microsoft and Sony, doesn't have any additional divisions to temporarily absorb any considerable loss.
Everything else though, I agree
Yup, this describes our family perfectly.
Also, matched with a good PC is a killer combination.
CanUKlehead
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Jesus, dat NBA 2K15 and Minecraft...I know it's The Finals right now and all, but seems like NBA 2K games have even longer legs than Madden nowadays. Though could just be the offseason
peter42O
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If Xbox One sold 139k consoles, I wonder how many PS4's were sold and how much the margin of victory was.
For those who are still expecting Sony to announce a price drop for PS4, why would they? They've won four out of five months this year and thanks to the Batman bundle, they're expected to win June as well. And including the $400 Batman bundle, I don't see Sony announcing a price drop until later in the year if that. I'm still predicting E3 2016 to $300.
For those who are still expecting Sony to announce a price drop for PS4, why would they? They've won four out of five months this year and thanks to the Batman bundle, they're expected to win June as well. And including the $400 Batman bundle, I don't see Sony announcing a price drop until later in the year if that. I'm still predicting E3 2016 to $300.
rokkerkory
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Is COD AW that good?
Margin 13k
Joeshabadoo
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Price cuts are iffy. What Nintendo as a company don't want, because they can't absorb it, is to price cut a console so that it's at a loss and then have it take off. It happened before and led to them having the first of 3 years of financial loss. The 3DS needed a price cut, but they lopped too much off and made it very enticing. It took off like mad, with 11 million units sold in the 6 months following the price cut, but with it all at a loss. That is quite damaging to a company that, unlike Microsoft and Sony, doesn't have any additional divisions to temporarily absorb any considerable loss.
Everything else though, I agree
oh totally, there will only be price cuts if they can bring costs down enough. Meant to imply that, my bad. They're already all about the cost cutting right now, in fact it's the main reason they were back in black for the previous fiscal
shinra-bansho
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136K for Splatoon seems okay for what it is (experimental, niche project that doesn't break the bank). Not phenomenal, not bad.
Basically no hardware impact, as expected I guess.
Y/Y software is hard given Watch_Dogs impact last year. Does anyone remember if anything significant as Batman was out in June though out of curiosity?
Basically no hardware impact, as expected I guess.
Y/Y software is hard given Watch_Dogs impact last year. Does anyone remember if anything significant as Batman was out in June though out of curiosity?
I think the plan is to maintain the status quo and not drop into an even deeper pit than the one they're in now. Keep the Wii U user base happy with strong software and buy time until the release of their next piece of hardware, whatever it may be. So long as they do that, the core fan base should eat up any new hardware they release.
At this point I doubt future Wii U sales have much of any impact on their plans going forward, they already know it's not going to move any worthwhile numbers. I'm sure they're much more focused on getting their next device right rather than fixing the current one.
Milly Osworth
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Splatoooooon!
Before your edit, I would have said that would be interesting as it would have made the Wii U the first Nintendo console to launch without a new mainline Zelda title. I can definitely see them pulling a Twilight Princess with it.
The Grim Reaper
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Not much. There was UFC for the current-gen and Tomodachi Life, but not much else outside of strong Watch_Dogs and Mario Kart 8 legs.
Price cuts are iffy. What Nintendo as a company don't want, because they can't absorb it, is to price cut a console so that it's at a loss and then have it take off. It happened before and led to them having the first of 3 years of financial loss. The 3DS needed a price cut, but they lopped too much off and made it very enticing. It took off like mad, with 11 million units sold in the 6 months following the price cut, but with it all at a loss. That is quite damaging to a company that, unlike Microsoft and Sony, doesn't have any additional divisions to temporarily absorb any considerable loss.
Everything else though, I agree
It's not going to take off just like Sony could sell the Vita for 20 dollars and it's not going to take off but the point still stands. Make x money with pathetic sales. Make x-y money or even lose z money on sales that are not much better to mediocre.
Gaiaknight
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I honestly believe zelda will launch on wii u in 2016 nintendo was so sure for so long that the game would be 2015 that i dont see them talking too much more time with the game. As for the next home platform i dont see that arriving anytime before holiday 2017 the wii u will have its full 5 year lifespan despite its bad sales.
It still boggles my mind that people think NX is anything other than a portable/handheld, which is unlikely to be able to handle WiiU ports without significant downgrades, which isn't going to happen with ZeldaU. The WiiU successor will probably announce/launch a year or so afterwards, depending how much effort Nintendo needs to put into the NX to get it selling.
I can't be bothered to dig the figures out, again, but the release pattern of Nintendo handhelds is pretty regular, and if NX isn't a dedicated portable/handheld then we're due another 3DS revision to be announced fairly soon for Japan.