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March 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes April 12th

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Why are people so convinced that PS4 will have an over 100k gap!? Those kinds of margins are usually far a few between these days, seeing PS4 in that position i don't think is not very likely.

I also don't understand why PS4 is consistently getting 300k+ this year when last year was lucky if they could get that amount even in Bloodborne month
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
Why are people so convinced that PS4 will have an over 100k gap!? Those kinds of margins are usually far a few between these days, seeing PS4 in that position i don't think is not very likely.

I also don't understand why PS4 is consistently getting 300k+ this year when last year was lucky if they could get that amount even in Bloodborne month

Momentum. Whilst RAC, No Man's Sky, Alienation and UC4 didn't release last month, people knew they were releasing soon.
 

Welfare

Member
Why are people so convinced that PS4 will have an over 100k gap!? Those kinds of margins are usually far a few between these days, seeing PS4 in that position i don't think is not very likely.

I also don't understand why PS4 is consistently getting 300k+ this year when last year was lucky if they could get that amount even in Bloodborne month
It sold 342k in February 2015 and 340k in March.

Also so far this year the gaps have been ~100k. 98k in January and 157k in February. It could be slightly below 100k like in January, but that's if the price cut had a massive impact on XB1 sales.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Why are people so convinced that PS4 will have an over 100k gap!? Those kinds of margins are usually far a few between these days, seeing PS4 in that position i don't think is not very likely.

I also don't understand why PS4 is consistently getting 300k+ this year when last year was lucky if they could get that amount even in Bloodborne month
Price.

PS4 is $50 cheaper this year than last year.
 

Elandyll

Banned
Price.

PS4 is $50 cheaper this year than last year.
There's also the general feeling that (although it was pretty much a meme) the PS4 is finally hitting its stride in terms of exclusives being released tbis year.

Every single month there is/ will be one or more pretty high profile console exclusive it seems.

Gravity Rush R
The Witness
Street Fighter V
Firewatch
MLB 16
Ratchet & Clank
Alienation
Shadow of the Beast
Uncharted 4
No Man's Sky
Star Ocean 5

Expectected 2016:Nioh, Abzu, Dreams, The Last Guardian, The Tomorrow Children, Gran Turismo Sports, Horizon...

Of course the $50 price drop and upcoming PSVR do not hurt it either.
 

Welfare

Member
There's also the general feeling that (although it was pretty much a meme) the PS4 is finally hitting its stride in terms of exclusives being released tbis year.

Every single month there is/ will be a pretty high profile console exclusive it seems.

Street Fighter ???
MLB 16 ???
Uncharted 4
No Man's Sky

Expectected 2016: Gran Turismo Sports, Horizon...

Of course the $50 price drop and upcoming PSVR do not hurt it either.

Fixed that list to fit the "pretty high profile" restriction.
 

kyser73

Member
I think network effects are also really starting to drive PS4 sales. It's the kind of thing that takes time to build up, but once it really starts working it has an accelerative affect on expansion.
 
Size of sample alone means nothing, it's the methodology that makes a poll accurate.
Sure. The bible belt might be 10% of the US population. Nevertheless this sample is not 100% accurate for the whole US in a lot of themes.
So chose you questions wisely and be cautious with the data you get.
 
Sure. The bible belt might be 10% of the US population. Nevertheless this sample is not 100% accurate for the whole US in a lot of themes.
So chose you questions wisely and be cautious with the data you get.
That would apply if Amazon was a regional retailer, but it is nationwide. It is a very representative sample. Obviously, the biggest factor that throws the results off is when there is a big deal at one specific retailer like Gamestop or Best Buy.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Why are people so convinced that PS4 will have an over 100k gap!? Those kinds of margins are usually far a few between these days, seeing PS4 in that position i don't think is not very likely.

I also don't understand why PS4 is consistently getting 300k+ this year when last year was lucky if they could get that amount even in Bloodborne month

1) Cause last month The gap was well Over that, and even in January which is a slow month The gap was almost 100K

2) This is because Feb / Mar Are strong months, indeed even last year was well Over 300K. See January, This is a better month for see the PS4 basis.
 

Elandyll

Banned
Fixed that list to fit the "pretty high profile" restriction.
There was nothing to fix, as everything on the list has been given a fair amount of coverage in both medias and E3 conference.

Unless you think neither Below, Ori, Killer Instinct, Recore, Cuphead or even Sea of Thieves meet the criteria on XB1?

Ratchet & Clank 100% deserves to be on that list too. Can't believe you don't think it belongs on it.

I guess it's either AAA-itis or... Double standards.
Heck, Star Ocean is a huge name in JRPGs internationally (even if the title is sorta flopping in Japan).
 

Rymuth

Member
Every single month there is/ will be a pretty high profile console exclusive it seems.
I agree but I also think The Witness and Firewatch deserve a mention as both were critically acclaimed.

Anyway, the point is, there always seem to be something new and exciting for PS4 just around the corner and no doubt, that spills over to the general public.
 

watdaeff4

Member
May i say that there will be a meltdowns if this happens.

There shouldn't be, established IP on the system with a substantially larger marketshare plus a strong association with that platform. Add in the hype of the movie and I'll be shocked if it doesn't outsell QUantum Break.

By every right it should (and it will)
 

Elandyll

Banned
I agree but I also think The Witness and Firewatch deserve a mention as both were critically acclaimed.

Anyway, the point is, there always seem to be something new and exciting for PS4 just around the corner and no doubt, that spills over to the general public.
True, memory lapsed for these, will add them.
 
That would apply if Amazon was a regional retailer, but it is nationwide. It is a very representative sample. Obviously, the biggest factor that throws the results off is when there is a big deal at one specific retailer like Gamestop or Best Buy.
Absolutely. It was an example, maybe a bad one. Internet shops are nationwide, but promos can cause distortions like geographical/ethnical/social differences in polls.
 
I was more reserved with my R&C > QB before but I'm going all in now! It will happen! I have a feeling both will do surprisingly well though.

Hmm, there seems to be a divide on the matter. Some think QB should definitely do better while others think the opposite.

There shouldn't be, established IP on the system with a substantially larger marketshare plus a strong association with that platform. Add in the hype of the movie and I'll be shocked if it doesn't outsell QUantum Break.

By every right it should (and it will)
Not in the US.
 

Loris146

Member
I don't think so. Long running franchise + cheaper price + movie that should help the game too.

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (October 30, 2007, though released in most retailers early) -- 74,500 units

I found nothing about A Crack in Time but it failed to enter the top 20 in October 2009 ( so is <66k ).

R&C was not a huge seller in PS3 era even with very good reviews. We'll se how this reboot/remake/sequel will do.
 

stryke

Member
Oh, for some reason I had the 1.3M as the retail only number in my head. Ok, I can see UC4 having a go at that 800k ballpark.
 

watdaeff4

Member
I was more reserved with my R&C > QB before but I'm going all in now! It will happen! I have a feeling both will do surprisingly well though.

Hmm, there seems to be a divide on the matter. Some think QB should definitely do better while others think the opposite.

Not in the US.

Isn't it a sales gap of >1 million? >1.2 million? That's quite a bit bigger.

The real meltdowns will be in May npd thread when/if uncharted beats halo npd month

Won't meltdown be bigger if it doesn't?

Both sides have valid defenses to prep themselves:

Xbox fanboys: 4 days vs. 21 days; larger user base; reasons

Playstation fanboys: Well, duh Halo was supposed to do better; It's America, they like their shooters over games like UC; reasons
 

sense

Member
Won't meltdown be bigger if it doesn't?

halo used to launch around 3 million during its heyday so uncharted is nowhere close and so the expectations shouldn't be there. if uncharted 4 beats uncharted 3 that in itself is a victory and it is likely it would easily do that. beating halo 5 launch should be fun just to see the reactions. i personally have predicted it will beat halo 5 launch npd at retail
 
Since both QB and R&C are single player, linear, story driven experiences of around 10 hours or so, I can't see either selling particularly well.

I'd give the unit edge to R&C, the dollar edge to QB. Both also have a likelihood of having higher digital share than normal, R&C with the price point and QB with the free W10 code with digital Xbox One purchase.

Also, sensible chuckle on Halo still being considered a franchise worthy of sales level aspiration. It's not the EDIT:2012's anymore.

Ratchet & Clank 100% deserves to be on that list too. Can't believe you don't think it belongs on it.

Given its lack of significant marketing support, do you believe Sony thought it belonged on the list pre launch?
 

stryke

Member
Isn't it a sales gap of >1 million? >1.2 million? That's quite a bit bigger.

Market share is usually described as a percentage, not an absolute numbers gap. There's a difference between 1M vs 2M compared to 11M vs 12M. Same gap, but one is more significant than the other.
 
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