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Resetera and the pedo problem (updates)

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Tesseract

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Michele

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Yawn. I'm up.

So, the update is that OP is being threatened to be sued by someone at Resetera, and just now, she discovered NSFW images on one of the Twitter accounts linked to a Resetera Account...

This is just distrubing to hear... I can't believe this.

Also, I think you're forgetting to quote posts? I don't see the quote.
 
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Starfield

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I'm not sure if you are allowed to post porn in general, but then again there are so many NSFW threads now.

Maybe give a mod or evillore some samples first so he can decide if you can post it
 
Tesseract

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no bro you cannot post porn, and you shouldn't be posting degenerate furry shit any way unless it hooks to era

gory shit is fine far as i can tell, unless you post something real and absolutely horrific
 
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Starfield

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I think posts should stay in relation to the topic so, yeah.

Anyways back on track. People who need to delete their own posts and defend it usually have alot of shit on their hands. Prob just the tip of the ice berg
 
Michele

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Tch, while there is good progress, this isn't a thread for memeing about Resetera's fall. We can do that when it's truly over, but right now, this is an serious situation. Yes, I know the OP has more to say so there's nothing much we can do unill then, but still, shouldn't we be looking more around Resetera?

There could be something more that we could discover instead of lounging around. Please!
 
Mecha Meow

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Why do they think they can hide this shit? Time and time again in my 25 years online, I've seen these people always fail at hiding their crazy shit.
 
Michele

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sol_bad said:
What was behind all the spoiler tags in the last page? I'm too scared to look.
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If you mean page 12, it was NSFW images that included nudity of girls.

edit: By the way, I just thought of something. Can't we somehow spread this thread/news on 4chan?
 
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Michele

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RokkanStoned said:
What the hell happened here? I was like gone one day or so and this thread blows up? What's the TL:DR on this?
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TLDR: Celine found evidence of resetera members supporting pedos. Then images got deleted which further confirms her evidence, since Resetera wants to cover things.

She was threatened to be sued by an Resetera member.

Just now, she found horrifying, NSFW nude images of a twitter account linked to a Resetera member.
 
Yoshi

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Michele said:
If you mean page 12, it was NSFW images that included nudity of girls.
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Since it is potentially legally relevant depending on where you live: Of obviously underage anime girls with clear sexual intent.
 
Michele

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Yoshi said:
Since it is potentially legally relevant depending on where you live: Of obviously underage anime girls with clear sexual intent.
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I live in Italy, so maybe these images are not legal to be shared or posted. At least I think so, I don't know much when it comes to laws but I think it's illegal.
 
SoggyBiscuit

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This thread keeps delivering. I knew I was right to leave that place.

It's bad enough that members were banned for "wrongthink" points of view.

Now that we're seeing some members are nothing more than disgusting predators-in-waiting.

Keep digging Celine, you're doing amazing.
 
Yoshi

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Michele said:
I live in Italy, so maybe these images are not legal to be shared or posted. At least I think so, I don't know much when it comes to laws but I think it's illegal.
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In Germany, at least, I am pretty sure it is illegal to even open those images, so I thought it is relevant to give a warning.
 
Typhares

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Official Staff Communication
While we do not usually entertain coordinated trolling campaigns, this one is egregious enough that we are happy to clarify things for the benefit of our members: This is an attempt at retaliation for a ban. The member who posted this material was permanently banned from ResetEra for repeatedly trolling topics related to bigotry:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pe...support-read-threadmarks.105466/post-18914051
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...creasing-among-young-men.108713/post-19409092
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pe...sphobic-line-of-dialogue.112234/post-19968073

Not long after their permanent ban, the member DM'd staff accusing people in a Discord server (which staff have no part in managing) with highly inflammatory accusations -- at the time they presented only a few screenshots as proof, which did not seem to support the claims. After a review of the member's bans made it clear that this was likely a revenge troll attempt, communications were cut.

At least some of the new screenshots appear to have been conveniently cropped / dishonestly framed to make the intent of certain statements look completely different. For example one user was made to look like he was saying he loves Europe's lower age of consent, when he was actually replying to a conversation about the French dub of Metal Gear Solid.

The original screenshots now appear to have been taken down; we'd like to be clear that we did not request their removal. We do not know who took them down or for what reasons.

While it's more than a little upsetting that anyone would try to leverage a topic like this for petty revenge, we feel that any reasonable observer will recognize it as just that. We are not interested in lending it any more oxygen than it has already received.
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From https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-f-ck-is-this.123455/
 
Papa

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Dice said:
I am concerned. I am so concerned that I believe we should not simply wait for more people to be victimized, but should speak to people falling for wicked views before they act upon them and lead them to good sense, right understanding, and personal responsibility over their feelings of attraction.

You must understand, I AM THAT FAMILY. I'm not ignorant of this. However, simply throwing someone into prison or doing them harm (and trust me, I strongly had those feelings) doesn't take back what happened or heal the wounds or stop more of these evils from happening. The only thing that can do that is dispelling falsehoods that people buy into to justify them and equipping them with a right understanding of humanity, sexuality, and themselves before they get to decision points.

This is where I strongly disagree that corrective shaming is effective. I think it is only effective to shut people up and make them secluded. It does not address the false views that are fooling them into finding something wicked to be acceptable. Are they fully responsible and morally culpable for their actions? Yes. However, they still could have been better guided to choose better reasoning and actions. The way to most effectively make that happen is to provide better reasoning for them to accept.

Can we still hold people accountable for not practicing the personal responsibility to properly reason through things and find that better reasoning for themselves? Absolutely. However, I am not talking about justifying or acquitting them, I am talking about legitimately living out our own commitment to try and secure the reality we most desire and advocate. If we demonstrate acquiescence to watch them drift into evil, we are somewhat hypocritical when we are outraged over that evil. If we truly stand for good, we should take the opportunities to make that stand when presented with them, not take the lazy way out of shoving people away the second they seem tainted by immoral reasoning.

That is fair.
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We won’t agree on this. I think your soft approach paves the road to hell.
 
DunDunDunpachi

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Typhares said:
From https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-f-ck-is-this.123455/
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Seems like things always work out the same way each time:

DunDunDunpachi said:
Right now, some members are saying openly "a lot of our members aren't really as progressive as we all tell ourselves". I expect soon this will further degrade into a paranoid attitude of "ERA as a forum is being attacked from all sides, and we are being smeared, and only we carry the torch of truth and freedom". If the forum survives implosion, it will eventually reach that point, and it will be amazing to witness.
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Having read and posted on both ResetEra and NeoGAF, I would hope NeoGAF would be better than this.

Before I get people jumping down my throat and stating I'm being a ResetEra defender (or at worse saying I'm excusing behavior), the shit in this thread is the reason why I started posting on ResetEra and posted less or not at all on NeoGAF. Since people have left for ResetEra, those remaining on NeoGAF have developed a 'us vs them' mentality and it's constant trashing of former members of NeoGAF/current members of ResetEra/ResetEra/etc. on here. It's made reading posts here more insufferable, let alone posting here. This helps no one. This doesn't help NeoGAF. This doesn't help ResetEra. This doesn't help the gaming community as a whole. Someone has already mentioned past indiscretions of people that I will not go there or bring up.

As someone correctly mentioned earlier, this is not a ResetEra problem or a NeoGAF problem. Pedophilia is everywhere on the internet and in every community on the internet. That is shameful and disgraceful that it happens. It happened here long ago. That the original poster stated I find interesting that the person was given enough confidence to get invited to a discord, had gathered information, saw what she percevied as actual misdeeds, took screenshots and reported it here. It doesn't make the person seem trustworthy and completely derails her argument, even if what she said is happening and even though it was wrong. The proper thing would have been to report this to the proper authorities if the person felt she was not being believed sufficiently by the person she contacted and NOT to a rival message board or better yet not posted online at all. If she has already done that, then fine. It makes me suspect that it was done on purpose. Again, Celine B Sykes is not in the right either based on my perception of this thread so far.

Dice's post more eloquently summarizes my views as well on this. The posts after his post questioning his loyalty is a perfect example of what my issue is.

EviLore's actions in this thread doesn't help either, but essentially it's his site, his rules. What I think or believe about this is immaterial. The proper thing would be to close this thread. I could have sworn that it was mentioned not to engage in battles between ResetEra and NeoGAF back when the split happened and that NeoGAF would be moving on, but what do I know and why should I be listened to anyway? The amount of posts I've seen in this thread talking about ResetEra proves otherwise.

If you think or believe I should be mocked or ridiculed and my argument picked apart, then so be it. I would hope this site would do better now that the supposed "bad elements of NeoGAF are gone," but I was wrong.
 
Papa

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Dr.Guru of Peru said:
It was an honest question. The 8 year old in a dumpster was brought up multiple times on this page- what the hell is that about?
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You’re not going to make any friends with passive aggressive jabs (which you’ve been occasionally popping back in to do for over a year now) like “this thread is moving way too fast for NewGAF standards”. Then you skip over all of the rational discussion to focus on one exaggerated comparison that you don’t think is apt just so that you can make a lazy equal-but-opposite comparison (“reminds me of something...”). Honest question my ass.
 
captainraincoat

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Typhares said:
From https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-f-ck-is-this.123455/
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im gonna call bullshit on this...simply a cover up
What about the user in there gushing over 12-16 year old content....you think thats in relation to metal gear?

Edit..looked back on the original op post.....i suggest you go back and have another look...none of it matches the mods post
i think someone jumped the gun hoping to throw people off... ...you can clearly see the seedy shit...........gonna be an interesting 24 hours
 
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Musky_Cheese

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Apdiddy said:
The proper thing would have been to report this to the proper authorities if the person felt she was not being believed sufficiently by the person she contacted and NOT to a rival message board or better yet not posted online at all. If she has already done that, then fine. It makes me suspect that it was done on purpose. Again, Celine B Sykes is not in the right either based on my perception of this thread so far.
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You mean like the site owner? How much higher should she have gone?
 
Michele

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Apdiddy said:
Having read and posted on both ResetEra and NeoGAF, I would hope NeoGAF would be better than this.

Before I get people jumping down my throat and stating I'm being a ResetEra defender (or at worse saying I'm excusing behavior), the shit in this thread is the reason why I started posting on ResetEra and posted less or not at all on NeoGAF. Since people have left for ResetEra, those remaining on NeoGAF have developed a 'us vs them' mentality and it's constant trashing of former members of NeoGAF/current members of ResetEra/ResetEra/etc. on here. It's made reading posts here more insufferable, let alone posting here. This helps no one. This doesn't help NeoGAF. This doesn't help ResetEra. This doesn't help the gaming community as a whole. Someone has already mentioned past indiscretions of people that I will not go there or bring up.

As someone correctly mentioned earlier, this is not a ResetEra problem or a NeoGAF problem. Pedophilia is everywhere on the internet and in every community on the internet. That is shameful and disgraceful that it happens. It happened here long ago. That the original poster stated I find interesting that the person was given enough confidence to get invited to a discord, had gathered information, saw what she percevied as actual misdeeds, took screenshots and reported it here. It doesn't make the person seem trustworthy and completely derails her argument, even if what she said is happening and even though it was wrong. The proper thing would have been to report this to the proper authorities if the person felt she was not being believed sufficiently by the person she contacted and NOT to a rival message board or better yet not posted online at all. If she has already done that, then fine. It makes me suspect that it was done on purpose. Again, Celine B Sykes is not in the right either based on my perception of this thread so far.

Dice's post more eloquently summarizes my views as well on this. The posts after his post questioning his loyalty is a perfect example of what my issue is.

EviLore's actions in this thread doesn't help either, but essentially it's his site, his rules. What I think or believe about this is immaterial. The proper thing would be to close this thread. I could have sworn that it was mentioned not to engage in battles between ResetEra and NeoGAF back when the split happened and that NeoGAF would be moving on, but what do I know and why should I be listened to anyway? The amount of posts I've seen in this thread talking about ResetEra proves otherwise.

If you think or believe I should be mocked or ridiculed and my argument picked apart, then so be it. I would hope this site would do better now that the supposed "bad elements of NeoGAF are gone," but I was wrong.
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But have you considered that fall of October 2017? After that fall, I believe some of the pedos who were on this site transferred over to Era. Even since then, this forum has been stricter with pedos, banning anyone that is suspected to be one if there is clear evidence.

This is an serious issue that we should be tackling right now. Isn't Resetera one of the most popular gaming forums? Moreover, verified leakers/devs post constantly on there. Are you aware that pedophilia can be an serious crime? I do not think it may help if I say this following sentence, but it is wrong for the admins to be defending those pedos, since it would mean that those same admins of Resetera support it and/or have a chance of themselves being pedophilias themselves.
 
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Barnabot

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matt404au said:
You’re not going to make any friends with passive aggressive jabs (which you’ve been occasionally popping back in to do for over a year now) like “this thread is moving way too fast for NewGAF standards”. Then you skip over all of the rational discussion to focus on one exaggerated comparison that you don’t think is apt just so that you can make a lazy equal-but-opposite comparison (“reminds me of something...”). Honest question my ass.
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He's just wanting to put up a smokescreen about the subject which has evolved. I don't know his endgame yet because he's played the long game. But I'll figure out ;).
 
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