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Sega announces extraordinary loss of 7.1 bn yen, layoffs, restructures, cancels games
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SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Actually, I didn't know that, I thought some other type of agreement had been met between Platinum and SEGA. :/
Great contribution to the discussion.
Anyway, what does this mean for Anarchy Reigns?
Rahxephon91
Banned
Man you are on a roll today.
ShinobiFist
Banned
If Final Showdown doesn't do well, then yes. That's what the U.S. producer, Frank, told me and some of VFDC members at Final Round this year.
Well, to be fair, most of mankind wouldn't.
IpsoFacto
Member
The other irksome thing is that SEGA might be shift into complete Activision mode.
The franchises they mention are likely going to stay with SEGA, namely the Aliens franchise, that's their major meal ticket right now.
We're still a long way till E3 so I can only assume that their cancellations will be affected by their current crop of titles.
There are at least three titles that might get the axe. Or likely sold off to another publisher:
.Number one: London 2012 Olympics (The other titles never sold much, but it's likely that they got their money back, but like I say Aliens is the major meal ticket).
.Number Two: Rhytm Thief and The Emperor's Treasure (Disgraced Sonic Team alumini Shun Nakamura will likely see his title get axed due to the 3DS's slow sales performance and Nintendo's general non-chalant attitude towards third party software on their consoles).
.Number Three: Anarchy Reigns (Good GOD, I hope not. But it seems highly likely).
The franchises they mention are likely going to stay with SEGA, namely the Aliens franchise, that's their major meal ticket right now.
We're still a long way till E3 so I can only assume that their cancellations will be affected by their current crop of titles.
There are at least three titles that might get the axe. Or likely sold off to another publisher:
.Number one: London 2012 Olympics (The other titles never sold much, but it's likely that they got their money back, but like I say Aliens is the major meal ticket).
.Number Two: Rhytm Thief and The Emperor's Treasure (Disgraced Sonic Team alumini Shun Nakamura will likely see his title get axed due to the 3DS's slow sales performance and Nintendo's general non-chalant attitude towards third party software on their consoles).
.Number Three: Anarchy Reigns (Good GOD, I hope not. But it seems highly likely).
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I'm sad about VC3. 
We may never get that game now.
We may never get that game now. I'm sad about VC3.
I bought it yesterday. I may never understand the story but atleast I get good music and gameplay out of it.
It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Just hop on over and see what publishers want out of next gen.
I know I had a container of brain bleach somewhere around here.
I swear... if they eventually go under from the gaming industry, then my favorites will only include whatever is left of Square Enix (and to be honest, that's a really crappy thing to rely on at the current moment) & Nintendo. At least, when it comes to console side of things. =/
IpsoFacto
Member
Midway went backrupt.
Atari is barely, but barely hanging in there.
THQ is bleeding pretty badly.
Capcom is milking Street Fighter and Resident Evil to the nth degree.
SquareEnix and Namco Bandai are struggling.
SEGA downsizing to keep it itself afloat.
Electronic Arts, Take Two and Activision are the only "safe" 3rd Party companies out here right now.
Don't console launches have the reputation for killing companies? For every new IP it can spawn, you have a company that isn't in the healthiest condition unable to profit from the transitioning customer base.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
And most of those companies have turned out mostly shit lately. Isn't that funny.
GrandHarrier
Member
Good. Sega deserves this for not making a proper Phantasy Star sequel. You know, something that isn't that online abomination.
Namco Bandai isn't struggling.
exmachina64
Banned
It needs to happen. Bad business practices are going to kill most of these publishers since it's obvious they're not learning from their mistakes.
outunderthestars
Banned
Valve, Bethesda, Namco, Ubisoft, Atlus, Konami all say hello.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Konami most certainly aren't doing all that great. The only IP they have left that still has some pull on home consoles is MGS.
They're actually doing fine, financially. I'm aware that they don't have "ecred" right now, but their house is in order.
LOL! Maybe from a financial standpoint, but they're killing all their franchises.
Shadow Hog
Member
I hope not. Barely bothering with QA is what got us Shadow and 2K6. I sincerely hope Sega doesn't seriously want to go back to that.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Then why didn't they hire someone competent to do the SH collection, and give Vatra a decent budget for Downpour *cries* KONAAAAAAAAAAAMIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
Atlus is tiny, Valve is only marginally focused on traditional console development, and Ubisoft lost significant money the last two years (although they're likely to make money this year, thanks to Just Dance). Konami and Namco are doing well, though, as is ActivisionBlizzard. EA has, at the very least, stopped losing enormous quantities of money, even if they aren't making very much, either.
Generally, I'd describe the current console environment as "treading water" overall. The publishers who focused primarily on home consoles aren't bleeding terribly at this point (or rather, some are bleeding, but you have at least as many success stories to compensate for that), but they aren't growing anymore in aggregate. Console development is, at the very least, stagnant.
Most of the growth we're seeing is outside the HD Console realm. Portables have given rise to large companies like Level 5 and provided very signiifcant profit margins for companies like Ubisoft and SquareEnixEidos; PC is providing explosive growth to companies like Valve, Zynga, and Riot; iOS has given rise to companies like Rovio and Gameloft.
It isn't so much that console development is collapsing in to nothingness, in other words. It's that it's standing still while everything else is sprinting forward.
outunderthestars
Banned
A lot of people blame QA for bad games when in reality a lot of the issue is production pipelines, too tight budgets/bad scope and people making terrible judgment calls. So yeah.
One might actually argue that Konami has been able to turn a profit specifically because they've moved their focus away from these types of games and towards mobile platforms, casino game machines, and fitness technologies to go with their gyms.
Cheap outsourcing is a consequence of their focus being elsewhere.
Herbspiceguy
Member
I want to know how much money Sega pays to the yakuza.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Your tag is all too fitting.
I wish they'd just sell off the Silent Hill IP to someone who actually cares about it.
Sadly, I think SEGA will die like medium size publisher in about a year.
On the other hand, the strongest sales SEGA had receive these days are from their digital only titles.
This means they'll put more effort on digital titles for psn/xbla/iOS/android/windows phone and maybe we are going to receive two or three high budget retail games from Aliens, Total War, Sonic and Football Manager per year.
That's, until SEGA become exclusively digital publisher and completely die after three or four year.
EA will buy CA and SI. Some Japanese publisher will buy Sonic franchise. Maybe Sony will buy Yakuza franchise (and the team) for their home market.
And that's it :/
On the other hand, the strongest sales SEGA had receive these days are from their digital only titles.
This means they'll put more effort on digital titles for psn/xbla/iOS/android/windows phone and maybe we are going to receive two or three high budget retail games from Aliens, Total War, Sonic and Football Manager per year.
That's, until SEGA become exclusively digital publisher and completely die after three or four year.
EA will buy CA and SI. Some Japanese publisher will buy Sonic franchise. Maybe Sony will buy Yakuza franchise (and the team) for their home market.
And that's it :/
Dandare4444
Member
Ouch...watta lotta wedge to lose. I know a few people who work for sega uk, hope this doesn't affect them.
Honestly, I think the best thing for gamers is that the US/European branches of Sega die off completely. When that happens, Sega will have no choice but to license out their games, and we'll get games like Valkyria Chronicle 3, 7th Dragon, the PSP Yakuza games, Shining Blade, Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity, and so on instead of these games being passed over so that Sega can fund the development of Iron Man 2 and Thor movie tie-ins.
They destroyed the best football franchise in gaming, one of the best horror series and their only saving grace is Metal Gear games. They are pretty lol-worthy, IMO.
As mentioned previously this all relies on Sammy. In the future I see them making 3 possible decisions
- Dissolve SEGA, sell all its IPs to other companies, thus cutting off the head of its financial problems
- Absorb SEGA, thus taking all their IPs and making game-themed pachinko machines (or by some stroke of madness, enter the games publishing scene)
- Keep SEGA-Sammy partnership, and by some stroke of luck the financial problems subside. Worst case here is that they both go under and someone else purchases Sega-Sammy
shut up
SHUT UP
I won't let the best developer in the industry die.
And they won't be dying, just downsizing.
SegaManAU
Member
I hope this isn't true...because aren't they almost ready to reveal some new Arcade hardware along with VF6?
This means I will now double dip on games both on PS3 and 360.
IrishNinja
Member
i really am hoping for this. sales in japan have apparently been "good", and again, good enough for localization in the US. this news of course doesn't bode well for the latter, though.
your posts are absolute garbage. I'm serious, i don't think ive seen a single one of worth.
see, this is doing it right - this post has the decency to be hilarious, while wasting the time of everyone involved.
why you wanna be that guy, gravijers
again, the big picture here is reassuring.
a stronger DD model on consoles cant come quick enough for some of their niche projects, though.
not what it's for, but i can't deny i'd go in if it was started!
this kind've mentality is really the only leftover i can see towards the generic sega-hate...the dissonance created from being angry at a company for not being what it was 10-15 years ago. i mean, how many people you think from PS IV are still on staff? why do you want something that a) doesn't play to their current strengths at all, when b) F2P PSO 2 looks to be one of their biggest money-makers in the future? As if the ending to IV wasn't enough.
cj_iwakura
Member
You could've localized Hatsune Miku, but nooooo.
Sega's been dead since the Dreamcast died, people. They've just been delaying the inevitable.
Sega's been dead since the Dreamcast died, people. They've just been delaying the inevitable.
