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Did today’s State of Play convince you that you need VR?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Needs vs. Wants, interesting choice of words.
And why are there two "not interested"?
The poll choices the past few months, I swear, lol.
And why are there two "not interested"?
The poll choices the past few months, I swear, lol.
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DarthBuzzer
Member
Astro Bot should be your first choice. Beat Saber, Wipeout, Tetris Effect, Moss are all good choices afterwards. Firewall Zero Hour as well if you have the Aim controller.
McCheese
Member
^ This guy knows what's up.
Really surprised by how many people are so adamant that they don't want VR, and are offended when folks try to change their minds. But at the same time, I don't want to go full Vegan and constantly "correct" everyone about it.
But for folks on the fence still, the thing to get across is that it's not like 3D or 4K which was just another format for consuming something you already had. VR is very much it's own medium, sure it's screen based and therefore the early applications are very much videogames and porn, but the magic of it is the sense of presence it creates when you remove the headset you feel like you've returned from somewhere else. It's surreal. and that's something that can never be transferred or watered down to say, a TV. I think it's also why folks so adamantly defend VR, as they are scared the medium will die off and that portal to other worlds will be lost.
As someone who always played games to escape from reality, it means VR is like a massive thing for me. But I can grasp that folks may enjoy gaming for a variety of reasons and so VR may or may not be a big deal for them personally.
But at least try the porn
DarthBuzzer
Member
Anyone can use it without being sick so long as three conditions are met:
1. IPD adjustment must be correct.
2. The game must be hitting 90 FPS consistently.
3. The game does not artificially move you or cause off-putting movements in the world itself.
This means games like Beat Saber and Moss are fine for anyone to get into.
You also have options for fighting sickness in more intense games:
1. Comfort options. Vignetting, snap turning, teleportation, frame of reference.
2. Having a fan blowing on you.
3. Consuming ginger.
There is also a cure that would appear to work for motion sickness in general, but hasn't been implemented into VR headsets yet;
Romulus
Member
That actually makes me even more impressed with PSVR. Maybe that was your point though.
For one, there's an additional cost barrier with PSVR in that you're required to own PS4, For two, it's VR, a technology that most people still haven't tried with all sorts of negative opinions about nausea and vomiting galore(which in my experience is incredibly inflated.)
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ALIEN-gunner
Member
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ALIEN-gunner
Member
There wasn't enough space for all the people that don't care about VR.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah that is true, select people will care when it comes to their preferred platform. Just like game streaming.
Romulus
Member
But there's plenty of space for them in threads about VR, that they supposedly don't care about.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Motion sickness is caused by the discrepancy between being seated and your brain perceiving your body walking. That's why free movement games are NOT recommended for starters. You have to start up step by step and then you will be fine. people who play RE7 or Skyrim as first VR games get very sick for obvious reasons. I suffered the same. Now I am immune.
Also, some very extreme experiences like Ace Combat may induce much sickness.. You would be sick if piloting a fighter in real life, too.
The sales argument is quite wrong. There is no new technology that was adopted by the masses. Remember the first smartphones? The first 4K tvs ? How many people had an iphone back then? how about a 4K TV? Do you all have one? If the answer is no, is 4K TV a failure and should be phased out ?
Nonsense.
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Chairman Tickles
Banned
VR Chat IS VR. It's the VR killer app. VR is cool, certainly here to stay.
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DarthBuzzer
Member
MS has a large bet on VR too. They have 7 partner headsets on PC, plenty of in-house R&D, and they have HoloLens which is part of the same spectrum. VR/AR is one of the Microsoft's most important long-term roadmaps.
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ALIEN-gunner
Member
I'll let our weekly VR hate club know about these other threads with empty space. Thanks for the tip!
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
My wife tried to turn on our PSVR today to play some Beat Saber and it didn't turn on. It has been having issues with the power button for a few days now, and I guess intermittent just wasn't good enough. After troubleshooting for a while (I must've rebuilt my entire entertainment center twice), we contacted Sony support which wanted $100 to repair it (and a few weeks), so we just ordered another one from Amazon for $250 (we're upgrading to the 2.0 headset too).
It really saddens me to see so many people that seem dead set against VR. We couldn't even go one night without it.
It really saddens me to see so many people that seem dead set against VR. We couldn't even go one night without it.
Dragon_Rocks
Member
Are Flower and Journey available on VR?
Romulus
Member
No problem. You fellas are gonna have alot of work to do in these threads in the next few years.
Alot of big name devs are investing in VR. Value, Insomanic, Sony first parties, even Nintendo is sending out the feelers, not to mention all the PC headsets that keep coming even after "failing" previously. Sony was ballsy to try VR with PS4 because of the inferior tech, that was easy to critique their results. I hope you enjoy it, but next gen, both major consoles will have powerful enough machines for much improved VR, and just imagine all the major games you'll be missing out on, or just taking away resources from monitor/TV games. I love it, because even if VR failed, I still have TV games to fall back on. You don't have a fallback, you just have to watch VR grow and hope it doesn't succeed. Helpless.
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Kagey K
Banned
That’s not at all where I meant to go on this, and one of those “negatives” was supposed to more positive, saying “I want to believe, but it’s not there yet”Yeah that is true, select people will care when it comes to their preferred platform. Just like game streaming.
Just like one of the positives was I wanted to believe and didn’t get converted.
You guys read too much into it sometimes.
Going forward I’ll just do yes or no. No nuance or anything.
ALIEN-gunner
Member
Humor is lost on you cultists. I love this thread.
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It isn't a comment on the potential of VR somewhere down the road.
The numbers just show that PSVR has sold worse than a failed platform.
It isn't a comment on the potential of VR somewhere down the road.
The numbers just show that PSVR has sold worse than a failed platform.
DarthBuzzer
Member
Okay, and that still means nothing. There is no comparison to be had.
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