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for people that say drm ( denuvo ) doesnt affect performance
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Antwix
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Wasn't it proven true for Resident Evil Village though?
Mr Moose
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No idea, I just remember seeing a video about this game.
feynoob
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"A person seeks freedom, when you limit his choices.If it wasn't for pirate scumbags there wouldn't be any need for Denuvo.
To give him his freedom is to provide him a choice."
Sun Tzu.
The Cockatrice
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It was fixed. That was the only real example and it was mostly Capcom screwing up the implementation. The Hogwarts one is false. So unless your CPU is 7+ years old, Denuvo will not impact performance Sorry OP, nice try, but do better research next time.
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Mr Hyde
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That's some nice poetry for "leeching parasite". Stop rationalizing piracy.
feynoob
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Mr Hyde
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samoilaaa
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even in ur video empress version has 10-15 more fps in hogsmeade
samoilaaa
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i bet i bought more games than you even if i pirate
nkarafo
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Oh, so Denuvo does impact performance then.
Mr Hyde
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That's what all pirates say.
"I buy games, I really do. I like to support the devs, see what a good citizen I am. Now let me steal all your games that you worked so hard on without any punishment."
Get the fuck out here.
Mr Moose
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The second video? It's showing they are about the same. The first video was them using the Steam overlay which decreased performance in this title, the second video corrected their mistake.
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feynoob
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RickSanchez
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Was it Gaben who said that piracy is a service issue rather than a price issue ? I don't fully agree, but there is some meaning to it.
Implement fair regional pricing, fix your games before release, implement anti-cheats that do not intrude in performance, ensure proper preservation of digital copies, get rid of microtransactions................and watch sales figures rise like magic, even without denuvo.
Multiple games and publishers over the years (AAA and Indie) have proved that this strategy works. CDPR, Sony, Microsoft, Annapurna, 505, iOi, etc
Even publishers like EA, Ubi and Squeenix who are overly fond of Denuvo nowadays, have released games in the past without Denuvo which were wildly successful commercially: Mass Effect, Dragon Age, early Ass Creed and Far Cry, the Final Fantasy series, etc
Implement fair regional pricing, fix your games before release, implement anti-cheats that do not intrude in performance, ensure proper preservation of digital copies, get rid of microtransactions................and watch sales figures rise like magic, even without denuvo.
Multiple games and publishers over the years (AAA and Indie) have proved that this strategy works. CDPR, Sony, Microsoft, Annapurna, 505, iOi, etc
Even publishers like EA, Ubi and Squeenix who are overly fond of Denuvo nowadays, have released games in the past without Denuvo which were wildly successful commercially: Mass Effect, Dragon Age, early Ass Creed and Far Cry, the Final Fantasy series, etc
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Theres no such thing as a free lunch.
So dont come at me with that noise Denuvo does nothing.
People with super powerful CPUs just arent noticing the difference and/or its negligible enough on their systems to be run to run variance.
And dont even start with the whole, well if you are using a Ryzen 3000/Intel 7000 class CPU its your own fault.
Nah fuck that noise expecting people to upgrade their whole system for some DRM shit is nonsense.
If you tell me a Ryzen 1000 is enough to run the game, dont put in an invisible asterisk saying..........(as long as Denuvo isnt running)
Get that Denuvo outta here.
So dont come at me with that noise Denuvo does nothing.
People with super powerful CPUs just arent noticing the difference and/or its negligible enough on their systems to be run to run variance.
And dont even start with the whole, well if you are using a Ryzen 3000/Intel 7000 class CPU its your own fault.
Nah fuck that noise expecting people to upgrade their whole system for some DRM shit is nonsense.
If you tell me a Ryzen 1000 is enough to run the game, dont put in an invisible asterisk saying..........(as long as Denuvo isnt running)
Get that Denuvo outta here.
Senua
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lukilladog
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If it wasn't for pirate scumbags there wouldn't be any need for Denuvo.
Unproven assertion.
Mr Hyde
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So I'm a boot licker just because I don't pirate and steal games like you losers do? Only in a pirates head does this makes sense.
nkarafo
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You can still not pirate and not steal games without Denuvo too.
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samoilaaa
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there are a couple of them in this thread
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Denuvo does impact performance, but in cases where there are custom things running on top, it seems to become much more notable
RE Village had Denuvo and Capcom's custom weird encryption running on top of it, hence the huge performance spikes at launch, but IIRC they later amended some of that in a post release patch (but kept the denuvo in) and that fixed most of the performance issues.
RE Village had Denuvo and Capcom's custom weird encryption running on top of it, hence the huge performance spikes at launch, but IIRC they later amended some of that in a post release patch (but kept the denuvo in) and that fixed most of the performance issues.
Bragr
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No, it's not what he meant, that quote is taken out of context. People use this quote to justify pirating and scumbag behavior all the time.
FukuDaruma
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I bought REVIllage and suffered severe stuttering to the point I had to restart the game each hour or so. Then the cracked game came out and without Denuvo shit there wasn't any stuttering. But sure "It wAsN'T dENuVo's FaULt, iT wAs CaPcOm".
Now had to suffer Dead Space remake many stutter problems (not just 'traversal') and I bet when they remove the Denuvo shit it will perform better.
Denuvo is cancer. Wish they were hacked and the whole company inside out dumped online.
Now had to suffer Dead Space remake many stutter problems (not just 'traversal') and I bet when they remove the Denuvo shit it will perform better.
Denuvo is cancer. Wish they were hacked and the whole company inside out dumped online.
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DemonGamerTTT
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A very poor guy that knows nothing of the video game business once said that "piracy is a service problem"... He runs the biggest and most successful videogame selling business there are.
And yet you're the "billionaire that knows better" about what cause piracy... RIGHT ???????????????? You should definitely open your own online store with even more intrusive DRM that would solve all piracy problems...
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Mr Hyde
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A very poor guy that knows nothing of the video game business once said that "piracy is a service problem"... He runs the biggest and most successful videogame selling business there are.
And yet you're the "billionaire that knows better" about what cause piracy... RIGHT ???????????????? You should definitely open your own online store with even more intrusive DRM that would solve all piracy problems...
And they call me the boot licker
I guess you must feel good about yourself that Gaben cleared your conscience about piracy.
MrTroubleMaker
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somebody got the booty mod
Denuvo needs to go
Denuvo needs to go
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Kuranghi
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somebody got the booty mod
Denuvo needs to go
Booty =
Disturbingly wide thigh gap and bow legs =
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
People bought games before Denuvo was a thing.
People to this day buy games that dont have Denuvo all the time.
Sons of the Forest doesnt have Denuvo....its one of the best selling games on Steam right now.
The Witcher 3 to this day is still being bought up yet it launched without Denuvo.
Cyberpunk 2077....no Denuvo.
Would you like me to keep going?
Just because people are against Denuvo doesnt mean they are for piracy.....only a bootlicker would think thats what people mean when they want Denuvo expunged.
lame gag1990
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It's a shame Denuvo is still used. Chances are, anyone pirating these games were never going to buy them anyway. Especially at full price.
RyuCookingSomeRice
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Uhh no? Why should we
Pretty sure the person Hyde was responding to was specifically advocating for piracy because of Denuvo - if I'm understanding that silly quote.
The Cockatrice
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Dont be an idiot. With an old CPU like that, anything will impact performance in the background, even a simple music app, or a browser. You know exactly what I meant.
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Rykan
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It's not a service issue. It's never been a service issue. Gabe Newell is just simply marketing his own online store here. That's all there really is to it. I'm surprised so many people took it as an undeniable fact that shouldn't be questioned when it is said by someone who has an interest in getting publishers to release on his online store.
There is no service that can compete with free. A person intending to pirate a new release for free isn't going to be persuaded just because you made spending 60$ slightly more convenient.
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DemonGamerTTT
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Dude you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking.
There's nothing more """"""""""""FREE""""""""""""""" than anime because most of them aren't even licensed outside Japan but YET Crunchyroll is a huge success for many many years.
199% of the most famous stream service shows are widely available online for anyone to download or even watch online... but YET we have dozens of companies running to start their own stream services, maybe they do that because IT'S GUARANTED MONEY?? I don't know...
People don't pirate because it's "free" they do because it's THEIR* best option...
*let me explain if it's too hard for you to understand, what I've just said means that they pirate because the price sucks or the service sucks... or both
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Rykan
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I have no idea what the deal is with the condescending tone in your post.
Anime services like Crunchyroll (and also Netflix to a certain extend) are popular because they are providing access to Anime, including offering translations done by actual translators instead of fansubs, that was previously inaccessible to people outside of Piracy. That was never the case with games: You could always go out to buy games at a store, or even have it delivered to you the next day.
Besides, piracy for Anime is bigger than it ever was. If you thought that the rise of Crunchyroll or other services stopped or hindered piracy in any meaningful way, you're wrong.
If you honestly think that people don't pirate because they can get a product that is 60$ for free, then I have a bridge to sell to you...or pirate, idk.
Yes, it's a "service issue" if the only possible way to obtain something is piracy and there are no other legal options, but by and large, pricing is the primary motivator for Piracy, as it has always been.
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StereoVsn
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Corporate shilling in this thread is amazing. There are bunch of games without Denuvo and they do fine. Couple little games by CDPR called Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 are just an example.
Denuvo mainly gives publishers a chance to present to shareholders that they are "taking piracy seriously". Witness bullshit additional DRM on top of Denuvo that some companies put, "just to be on a safe side".
It's all bullshit for the most part. Ones who suffer are mainly customers. Yeah, maybe if you have latest i7-i9 or AMD equivalent chip you won't have a lot of issues (not guaranteed mind you), but fact is that most gamers do not own that. So the majority of customers suffer through this BS.
Not to mention what happens when inevitably Denuvo goes offline either due to company going out of business or moving on to Denuvo 3.0 or some shit. This is same company that had that SecureROM crap that went belly up. So yeah, good luck playing some of these games in 10-15 years.
Yeah, I know to a lot of people that's immaterial, but some of us do like replaying older titles. Imagine not being able to play say Chrono Trigger or FFVI because they were DRM protected.
Denuvo mainly gives publishers a chance to present to shareholders that they are "taking piracy seriously". Witness bullshit additional DRM on top of Denuvo that some companies put, "just to be on a safe side".
It's all bullshit for the most part. Ones who suffer are mainly customers. Yeah, maybe if you have latest i7-i9 or AMD equivalent chip you won't have a lot of issues (not guaranteed mind you), but fact is that most gamers do not own that. So the majority of customers suffer through this BS.
Not to mention what happens when inevitably Denuvo goes offline either due to company going out of business or moving on to Denuvo 3.0 or some shit. This is same company that had that SecureROM crap that went belly up. So yeah, good luck playing some of these games in 10-15 years.
Yeah, I know to a lot of people that's immaterial, but some of us do like replaying older titles. Imagine not being able to play say Chrono Trigger or FFVI because they were DRM protected.
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