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League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
- Thread starter zkylon
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Is there a reason Riot hasn't reverted autofill yet? It's without a doubt the single most stupid thing they've done in their entire carreer. It breaks the game, absolutely nobody likes it and they know it.
Who the hell cares if you get 5 minutes queue? Isn't that better than being forced into a role you or your team can't play and lose a game because of it? Is it so Overwatch doesn't have shorter queue times than their game? Insecure boneheads. Keep sabotaging your own game. I bet it was Ghostcrawler.
"Sorry guys, you were right, autofill was kinda terrible! But we didn't change it earlier because we couldn't accept we fucked up so soon so we let this toxic-inducing "feature" break the game for months. But, really, sorry! Sorry guys poros are sad we're so humble and cool blablabla meme tongue-in-cheek crap".
- 7.7 patch notes.
Who the hell cares if you get 5 minutes queue? Isn't that better than being forced into a role you or your team can't play and lose a game because of it? Is it so Overwatch doesn't have shorter queue times than their game? Insecure boneheads. Keep sabotaging your own game. I bet it was Ghostcrawler.
"Sorry guys, you were right, autofill was kinda terrible! But we didn't change it earlier because we couldn't accept we fucked up so soon so we let this toxic-inducing "feature" break the game for months. But, really, sorry! Sorry guys poros are sad we're so humble and cool blablabla meme tongue-in-cheek crap".
- 7.7 patch notes.
Stone Ocean
Member
I blame the Cait
Prototype Viktor
Member
Screw team what tower in 3's, ekko, riven, poppy
Stone Ocean
Member
Yo these are kind of huge
Hydrophobic
Member
I played against Swain for 2 of my 4 games I played in the top yesterday and the difference between a bad player and a decent player is so obvious. One guy made my lane a huge pain in the ass, the other only contested my farm by throwing out the crow and trying to root me occasionally. Also Malphite still easy :V you can hold me down in lane but I'll still at least bring the ults to fights. Then I get tanky stats.
Malz could still potentially see play in the mid lane with these changes, but I feel like that will send Zyra straight into the garbage.
Malz could still potentially see play in the mid lane with these changes, but I feel like that will send Zyra straight into the garbage.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah, the Malz changes are aimed at his bot lane harass.
Zyra's gonna suffer though.
Zyra's gonna suffer though.
Hydrophobic
Member
I want to say she deserves it, but honestly before she started seeing play in the last few months I swear she had been basically non-existent since S3. She probably doesn't need to do so much damage for free, but if they are essentially nerfing her damage maybe they could boost her base health or health gain a little bit or something.
Stone Ocean
Member
If that dumpsters her they could always increase her damage if she actually hits her spells
That targetting nerf is big for sure. Even now champs can leave their range and often won't be targetted again by the plants, so they can just kill it for free. That might be a bug, but it makes for some frustrating trades when your plants just refuse to attack anything when an adc is attacking it.
They really should fix those bugs or clarify if its intentional that plants just hate to attack sometimes.
Stone Ocean
Member
I hate when plants behave like Cannon minions and randomly switch targets without me giving them a new one.
The Malz change gives him a much needed weakness vs initiation supports since he won't get instant skillshot blockers anymore.
The Malz change gives him a much needed weakness vs initiation supports since he won't get instant skillshot blockers anymore.
PhillipCostigan
Member
To clarify on this: iirc we're cool with AD carries who like the stat Lethality as long as the stat itself is in a healthy spot. Lethality was a bit undertuned, but the underlying reasoning behind the change is still the same. Flat armour penetration was a super snowbally stat because of how effective it was with an early lead. You'd basically cut through the entirety of a squishy's defences. Lethality's scaling throughout the game makes it much healthier. If ADCs want to itemise into it because those carries just like that stat and how it scales vs regular crit, that's fine.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah, ARpen on ADCs was a problem because once you had a Dirk you could pretty much one shot the enemy ADC. As far as bot is concerned, Lethality gives a window where late game ADCs have a chance of survival while still giving you strong early/mid game spikes.
Let's take bets. Double lift vs faker stream count
Stone Ocean
Member
Faker should be a really packed stream depending on his schedule
Faker will destroy Doublelifts view count the first few days but it'll fall off eventually. Faker is a good player but his stream is fairly boring to watch since he isn't allowed to talk.
lmao
not really, autofill is supposedly a support thing, or something
but yeah, remove flex and bring draft normals back pls
even if you don't get autofilled often, you probably get an autofilled player like every other game and flex is so bad that i don't know why are we sacrificing solo q match quality for it
hmm, that sounds risky for zyra, but probably good idea
malzahar can go die in a fire
BreezyLimbo
Banned
wat
Pretty sure SKT doesn't let them talk in case they say something bad/leak something that could hurt the organisation. Maybe that was an Azubu thing or something though and they've changed it now idk.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
thought that was an azubu thing.
Hydrophobic
Member
What are you talking about? Why would not talking while they're streaming make NA get good? I don't think players are prohibited from speaking using voice and chat, he was just saying they weren't allowed to talk on their stream.
I just watch Scarra usually. He isn't the best player but it's a fun and relaxing stream I feel.
He streams here
https://www.twitch.tv/lol_peanut
He streams here
https://www.twitch.tv/lol_peanut
Stone Ocean
Member
New champ update blog
TLDR
Happy with Talon though he needs buffs
Rengar doing too much damage without sacrificing CC immunity, believe he can be brought to a balanced state but might need more work for that
Happy with Kat but paying attention on her balance as people master her
LeBlanc might be pushing the Assassin/Mage thing a bit too much, might address it later
Next class update: Tanks and defensive items, wants tanks to get more out of defensive stuff than other classes - aka fuck you Fizz
VGU team A finishing Galio, working on Eve next (yessssssssssss), will still have permanent stealth, Eve will still be sexy
VGU team B finished Warwick, working on Urgot next
Oh and Breezy, once Eve and Urgot are done Swain becomes one of the top priority reworks
Aatrox cries in a corner listening to Nightwish
TLDR
Happy with Talon though he needs buffs
Rengar doing too much damage without sacrificing CC immunity, believe he can be brought to a balanced state but might need more work for that
Happy with Kat but paying attention on her balance as people master her
LeBlanc might be pushing the Assassin/Mage thing a bit too much, might address it later
Next class update: Tanks and defensive items, wants tanks to get more out of defensive stuff than other classes - aka fuck you Fizz
VGU team A finishing Galio, working on Eve next (yessssssssssss), will still have permanent stealth, Eve will still be sexy
VGU team B finished Warwick, working on Urgot next
Oh and Breezy, once Eve and Urgot are done Swain becomes one of the top priority reworks
Aatrox cries in a corner listening to Nightwish
I love seeing my team freak out when I tell them I'm in placements >
Damn that's ballsy telling your team that you're in placements. I'd expect to get trolled if I told my team that.
Orochinagis
Member
I love seeing my team freak out when I tell them I'm in placements >
Its like telling them "pls lets lose harder than usual"
So, still RIP Bot lane
Shmuppers
Member
Yeah, people are always going to underestimate how much the bleed does. Willing to bet they have no idea that he gets bonus ad too.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Stone Ocean
Member
He's also higher on the priority thingy because of his skin situation
See, there was a bright side to not getting Dragon Master Swain
See, there was a bright side to not getting Dragon Master Swain
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I saw that edit
Dragon trainer swain
The crazy thing is rito can make a whole event around it. You have dragon trainers and dragon slayers against dragon master swain and his dragon squad. Give darius a dragon skin, yorick too(with that sick skin Idea i posted previously), shyvana, dragon knight morde make a whole event around it.
Gos rito. You would make millions.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Aatrox doesn't really need a full remake. Likely to get something smaller either via a roster update or a Shyvana-like mini-update.
Orochinagis
Member
Jeez, Autofill junglers are worse than autofill supports.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah but that's why, he'd get worked on if Riot went with the Diver update, but they chose Vanguards instead. He surely doesn't need a fully new kit but I think he needs more work than Shyv, like a new ability or two.
Peanut Butter
Member
What if Aatrox could use his stored blood to summon an Intermediate Vladimir Bot for 30 seconds.
Stone Ocean
Member
Bot lane is better now, just go back to Lethality builds. Ghostblade into Edge of Night and all your tank problems go away.
PhillipCostigan
Member
I mean Vanguards as a class needs more work than divers, and it doesn't exclude Divers from being the preseason update. He'll get work done but sometimes there are higher priorities.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
i doubt that since bang is korean imaqtpie.
Tanks and not divers as the next class update, eh? Well..."tanks", more like a particular subset of tanks. Going by what's in the post and assuming Riot will be doing up to 5 champions...
Alistar (not likely due to recent mini-rework)
Amumu (mentioning that Riot wants initiating tanks to not be Amumu copies makes me think that Amumu is going to be left unchanged.)
Braum (not likely, not really an initiator, kit is still solid.)
Cho'Gath (not likely since Riot is doing exploratory changes. Also not an initiator)
Gragas (not really played a frontline initiator tank)
Leona (not likely due to recent mini-rework)
Malphite (most likely in the class rework. His niche as the anti-AD tank is too restrictive. Kit is too simple).
Maokai (definitely in the class rework. The second top lane goes tanky again he shows up)
Nautilus (...maybe? Kit doesn't have a huge amount of counterplay.)
Poppy (...maybe? Rework is still fresh, but kit is sort of busted).
Sejuani (the mention of "these champs function like Amumu, need more identity"...may as well have said Sejuani is in the class rework and stop beating around the bush.)
Shen (recent update, not likely)
Sion (arguably the best designed tank in the game, if anything Riot wants to take his design philosophy as the base template for all upcoming work in the class update)
Tahm Kench (not really a vanguard tank, but even his mini-rework Riot has had trouble balancing his solo queue vs. pro strength. They could use this as an opportunity to give him another mini-rework)
Volibear (big candidate for the class update.)
Zac (not a big issue, I think. When he's strong it's usually a numbers issue. Could use some more counterplay.)
My picks for the rework candidates in bold.
Alistar (not likely due to recent mini-rework)
Amumu (mentioning that Riot wants initiating tanks to not be Amumu copies makes me think that Amumu is going to be left unchanged.)
Braum (not likely, not really an initiator, kit is still solid.)
Cho'Gath (not likely since Riot is doing exploratory changes. Also not an initiator)
Gragas (not really played a frontline initiator tank)
Leona (not likely due to recent mini-rework)
Malphite (most likely in the class rework. His niche as the anti-AD tank is too restrictive. Kit is too simple).
Maokai (definitely in the class rework. The second top lane goes tanky again he shows up)
Nautilus (...maybe? Kit doesn't have a huge amount of counterplay.)
Poppy (...maybe? Rework is still fresh, but kit is sort of busted).
Sejuani (the mention of "these champs function like Amumu, need more identity"...may as well have said Sejuani is in the class rework and stop beating around the bush.)
Shen (recent update, not likely)
Sion (arguably the best designed tank in the game, if anything Riot wants to take his design philosophy as the base template for all upcoming work in the class update)
Tahm Kench (not really a vanguard tank, but even his mini-rework Riot has had trouble balancing his solo queue vs. pro strength. They could use this as an opportunity to give him another mini-rework)
Volibear (big candidate for the class update.)
Zac (not a big issue, I think. When he's strong it's usually a numbers issue. Could use some more counterplay.)
My picks for the rework candidates in bold.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Volibear's on the list for a full overhaul, fyi.
Reav3 posted it here
TL;DR -
Akali
Cho'Gath
Mundo
Irelia
Kayle + Morg (duo update)
Morde
Nunu
Rammus
Shaco
Swain
Volibear
Xin Zhao
Pantheon
Reav3 posted it here
TL;DR -
Akali
Cho'Gath
Mundo
Irelia
Kayle + Morg (duo update)
Morde
Nunu
Rammus
Shaco
Swain
Volibear
Xin Zhao
Pantheon