Moor-Angol
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creamsugar said:
Famitsu doesn't love PS3 anymore...
anyway, PSP numbers are amazing
i mean hardware numbers...
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Media Create Sales 11/19 - 11/25 2007
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Famitsu doesn't love PS3 anymore...
anyway, PSP numbers are amazing
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Already been said a few times, but loosus, when I talk about legs, I look at raw numbers, not rank orders. Seeing as how one means something, and the other means very little. SMG has stayed at the same level for three weeks in a row now, and Mario & Sonic's 2nd week drop is quite small compared to most games. That would be "legs".
norinrad21
Banned
This is good
BishopLamont
Banned
Crusade said:
Legs have nothing to do with how much a game debuts at.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Not neccessarily. Lots of games that debut at around 60k sales go straight into the shitbin the next week. Heck, lots of games that open higher than that have weaker 2nd weeks than 42k. First week was obviously pretty bad, but I don't see how anyone can be disappointed with the second week sales given that.Crusade said:
BishopLamont
Banned
Crusade said:
You said the drop in the second week is small because of the game's small debut, which is not true. Games usually have big drop offs in the second week, no matter how much it debuts at, unless it has legs.
SovanJedi said:I think this is the best of both worlds here - Wii Fit definitely did the big numbers for its 2-day debut, but it still didn't take the number 1 slot from a very deserving sequel to a promising IP. In other words, gaming is FAR from dead.
QFT
ShmarthurShmooner said:
No. It depends on if it sells well and is actually available for purchase.
GreenNight said:
Yeah, creamsugar! If you can't format it nicely, we don't want to see these early Famitsu numbers at all. Hmph.
Obviously, I'm not serious, creamsugar. You could post just the Japanese with the sales numbers, and I'd be happy. Keep doing what you're doing.
Crusade said:
No. When you start off with poor numbers due to being unpopular, the second week numbers usually drop off even more (%-wise). Mario & Sonic is showing legs.
Sonic. Legs. :lol
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
gconsole said:
Talk about fucking random comparison.
The thing about Mario & Sonic - I can see it having healthy (if not amazing) sales through the holidays. I know Amazon (US) isn't a reliable indicator of sales position, but it's been in the top 10 for a while now, and it wasn't when it opened. It also went up the charts in the UK, right? (though I guess that could be due to a big advertising push).
Maybe it's finally caught on with the casuals (or at least parents and kids) - who aren't the type who'd buy it the first week, etc.
Maybe it's finally caught on with the casuals (or at least parents and kids) - who aren't the type who'd buy it the first week, etc.
BishopLamont
Banned
Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's a fucking random comparison.Rocksteady33 said:
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
BishopLamont said:
What's there to understand? He's comparing first week sales of a new IP on what was a dead system of the generation to a game that features two of the industries biggest properties together in one game on this generations most popular system. Please tell me how the fuck is that a good and logical comparison?
BishopLamont
Banned
Crusade said:
How the hell is a new IP going to have front-loaded sales? I think you're using all these terms without even understanding them. That PN03 comparison shows exactly how games drop off in the second week.
Rocksteady33 said:
They're both new IP's, one shows small drop off while the other shows a huge drop off. A comparison between the two games is bad, but it's a perfect example of how most games drop off in the 2nd week.
Crusade said:
Ok that comparison with PN03 is bad, but I was disputing your earlier point that M&S had a small drop off because of the small debut, which is not true.
It was an ironic post. Last week there were alot of Sonyfanboys whining about MediaCreate sales just because it was some thousand units below Wii. The same people who claimed Sonys comeback. There were also alot of people saying that WiiFit won´t have an effect on Wiis hardware sales. As expected none of these statements were well-thought.Crusade said:
test_account
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Grampasso said:
Bump, most likely.
Staying power, most likely not.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It's essentially an expansion to a PS2 game that came out earlier in the year. The PS2 version of Heroes was just the expansion part, the Wii version was both parts bundled at a higher price.iidesuyo said:
Multiplatform sequels to PS2 games with PS2 as lead console tend to to best on PS2.CoolS said:
I wonder what would be the case with an original game? DQ Swords did well, but it wasn't a multiplatform version competing with the PS2 userbase, either.
PS2 games of 2007, in descending sales order. I think the highest up that isn't a sequel to an earlier PS2 game is "Fate/stay night".
Probably. From all the info in my database, the only Tony Hawk game to even make the charts was the PS2 version of THPS3, which hit #30 its launch week with 3,938 sold. I couldn't tell you if the PS1/DC predecessors made a mark.stilgar said:
According to Famitsu, P.N.03 also only made the charts one week. 10,569 at place #26. To hit #30 the following week, it would've needed at least 4,679.gconsole said:
charlequin
Banned
Hmmmm, good week pretty much all around. Layton 2 is kicking ass and taking names, of course -- Level 5 are really on a roll here. SMG and M&S are both hiking their skirts up a little here, which is a (good) surprise.
The DQ4 numbers don't seem bad to me -- but then I don't have the PS1 version's numbers on hand, so I can't see how it's tracking relatively. At least it doesn't look like it's been completely choked off by a lack of supply.
Wii Fit blew way past my sarcastic prediction. As many suggested, this game is going to be a monster.
GT5P isn't even a full game. :lol GT is the king shit of PlayStation franchises, which is why even a paid preview of it is a big event, but it isn't going to be as big as many other full games, and certainly not close to the real GT5.
The DQ4 numbers don't seem bad to me -- but then I don't have the PS1 version's numbers on hand, so I can't see how it's tracking relatively. At least it doesn't look like it's been completely choked off by a lack of supply.
Wii Fit blew way past my sarcastic prediction. As many suggested, this game is going to be a monster.
bigfurb said:
GT5P isn't even a full game. :lol GT is the king shit of PlayStation franchises, which is why even a paid preview of it is a big event, but it isn't going to be as big as many other full games, and certainly not close to the real GT5.
Great Wii numbers. Healthy PS3 numbers. If the PS3 can stay close to or above 40k-50k, that's what I would consider healthy.
I was only 4,000 off on my prediction for Wii Fit and that was before we even knew the rumored shipment numbers. I'm glad that every once in a while reality decides to bend to my will.
I'm waiting to see what GT5P does and how much/if Wii Fit continues to affect hardware sales. Interesting times.
I was only 4,000 off on my prediction for Wii Fit and that was before we even knew the rumored shipment numbers. I'm glad that every once in a while reality decides to bend to my will.
I'm waiting to see what GT5P does and how much/if Wii Fit continues to affect hardware sales. Interesting times.
tanod said:Great Wii numbers. Healthy PS3 numbers. If the PS3 can stay close to or above 40k-50k, that's what I would consider healthy.
I was only 4,000 off on my prediction for Wii Fit and that was before we even knew the rumored shipment numbers. I'm glad that every once in a while reality decides to bend to my will.
I'm waiting to see what GT5P does and how much/if Wii Fit continues to affect hardware sales. Interesting times.
I know this is crazy to ask, but how popular are GT games in Japan?
That will take awhile
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So how are Fit numbers and Wii hardware - good as expected or less?
People had some crazy high numbers for Wii Fit, but it did good anyways