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Nintendo Q3 FY 22/23 Earnings Report: Hardware 8.23M, 122.55M LTD. Pokemon S/V 20.61M

Mozza

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I don't get why Nintendo have to Rush to a next gen console. Why not sell it for another 4 years. Way underpowered but Nintendo gamers have never cared much about that.
They don't in reality, but as we only get the views from the core minorities, who have been suggesting the Switch was doomed at launch, and needed a Pro version to remain relevant for years now, but all this time Nintendo just kept shifting hardware and games, as the mass market could not care less about any of this.
 

Mozza

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Calendar year sales for Nintendo Switch games that have sold over 25 million units

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Can't remember any console having 6 games selling over 25 million copies.
 
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Woopah

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I don't get why Nintendo have to Rush to a next gen console. Why not sell it for another 4 years. Way underpowered but Nintendo gamers have never cared much about that.
Hardware sales are in decline and soon software sales will be too. This will keep being the case until a successor or significant revision come out, so Nintendo will not want 4 years of that.
 

Bragr

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I don't get why Nintendo have to Rush to a next gen console. Why not sell it for another 4 years. Way underpowered but Nintendo gamers have never cared much about that.
They did that mistake with the Wii.

It's a really bad idea to have a machine that feels old and outdated out on the market, even if it sells, with the Wii, while it was selling well, people got so fucking sick and tired of motion controls and the lack of games that it killed Nintendo's momentum and they could barely get anyone to even look at the Wii-U.

Playstation is great at this, the moment their machines start to dip in sales, they push out the new one to carry momentum, that's what Nintendo gotta do with the Switch.

They can't get the audience sour and make them associate Nintendo with old outdated hardware like they are starting to do now. It's time to move on.
 

Gambit2483

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They did that mistake with the Wii.

It's a really bad idea to have a machine that feels old and outdated out on the market, even if it sells, with the Wii, while it was selling well, people got so fucking sick and tired of motion controls and the lack of games that it killed Nintendo's momentum and they could barely get anyone to even look at the Wii-U.

Playstation is great at this, the moment their machines start to dip in sales, they push out the new one to carry momentum, that's what Nintendo gotta do with the Switch.

They can't get the audience sour and make them associate Nintendo with old outdated hardware like they are starting to do now. It's time to move on.

People are already tired of Switch. Hell if it wasn't for Zelda, discourse among the first year owners would be a LOT worse. I'm guessing by September/October the Zelda honeymoon phase will be over and gamers will be entirely ready for what's next or else a significant amount mindshare and momentum will be lost by years end.
 
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Andyliini

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So we are back at "Switch sales will fall off a cliff" discussions again? Let's see if they are right this time, we've had this song and dance many times since Switch was released (once every 6 months or so) and so far it has not happened.
 

NeoIkaruGAF

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Regional Hardware

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For Year over year hardware everywhere was down but Europe and Other tanked the worst. For software Japan had it's best quarter ever, Europe was slightly down and Other was flat. The drop in software was almost entirely down to the America's declining by 9 million from a year ago.
Japan alone being so close to ALL of Europe combined is insane.
 

Sgt.Asher

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So we are back at "Switch sales will fall off a cliff" discussions again? Let's see if they are right this time, we've had this song and dance many times since Switch was released (once every 6 months or so) and so far it has not happened.
The pachter strategy, keep repeating it and eventually it will be true.
 

Mozza

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Top 100 Nintendo Published games as of 31st December, 2022.

Pokemon S/V and Kirby ATFL enter the top 100 knocking out Super Smash Bros for Wii U (5.38m) and the Gameboy version of Dr Mario (5.34m).

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And yet some still insist Nintendo are doomed without third party support.
 

Mozza

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So we are back at "Switch sales will fall off a cliff" discussions again? Let's see if they are right this time, we've had this song and dance many times since Switch was released (once every 6 months or so) and so far it has not happened.
I think they hope sales will fall off a cliff, it really does not sit well with some, that a modestly powered console is so popular, even more so when it costs around $300.
 

Mozza

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People are already tired of Switch. Hell if it wasn't for Zelda, discourse among the first year owners would be a LOT worse. I'm guessing by September/October the Zelda honeymoon phase will be over and gamers will be entirely ready for what's next or else a significant amount mindshare and momentum will be lost by years end.
Which people are tired of it, you, some of the core fans perhaps. We have to think a little outside the box with the Switch, as it's appealing to a different demographic than the usual core gamers.
 

Gambit2483

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Which people are tired of it, you, some of the core fans perhaps. We have to think a little outside the box with the Switch, as it's appealing to a different demographic than the usual core gamers.
The millions of people that have had one since 2018. I'm honestly not sure if it's this new generation of gamers or the late adopters or both that act as if 6 years on the market is 'not long enough' or 'too soon' for new hardware but it needs to stop.

Nintendo is going to end up driving the Switch into irrelevance like they did with the Wii if they try to drag outdated technology out for too long. Sales in Japan and EU have been steadily declining and 3rd parties are going to run out of old irrelevant ports to bring to the system.
 
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daclynk

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The millions of people that have had one since 2018. I'm honestly not sure if it's this new generation of gamers or the late adopters or both that act as if 6 years on the market is 'not long enough' or 'too soon' for new hardware but it needs to stop.

Nintendo is going to end up driving the Switch into irrelevance like they did with the Wii if they try to drag outdated technology out for too long. Sales in Japan and EU have been steadily declining and 3rd parties are going to run out of old irrelevant ports to bring to the system.
The Switch is still selling games. look at report ever week on those charts. Wii never did that in its late life.
 
There are three first party games to be released during this current quarter that should sell one million by March 31st. Two of them are remasters which impacts their sales potential but they should still sell pretty well, this is what i think they can sell in their opening quarter although i may be way off.

Fire Emblem Engage - 1.9 million
Metroid Prime remastered - 1.8 million
Kirby's return to Dreamland deluxe - 1.5 million
 

Tams

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So we are back at "Switch sales will fall off a cliff" discussions again? Let's see if they are right this time, we've had this song and dance many times since Switch was released (once every 6 months or so) and so far it has not happened.

Yeah, while Nintendo do need to get a new console out soonish (which I'm sure they are well into working on), any commentary here about it is at the very best taken with a grain of salt.

Just look at the OT thread for the Switch. Almost the entire first page, if not many pages more of posters should have eaten crow by now.
 

Mozza

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The millions of people that have had one since 2018. I'm honestly not sure if it's this new generation of gamers or the late adopters or both that act as if 6 years on the market is 'not long enough' or 'too soon' for new hardware but it needs to stop.

Nintendo is going to end up driving the Switch into irrelevance like they did with the Wii if they try to drag outdated technology out for too long. Sales in Japan and EU have been steadily declining and 3rd parties are going to run out of old irrelevant ports to bring to the system.
Don't agree with you, most will not even care outside the core fans.
 
Switch isn't selling 33M more to beat the DS. It's done.

It had a good run though. 2nd best selling handheld, 3rd overall gaming device.

The new Pokemon will end being the peak of the franchise and likely the best selling game in the series never to be topped.
 

Gambit2483

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Don't agree with you, most will not even care outside the core fans.
Where have you been? Litterally EVERY other Switch video/article/thread topic is about Switch 2.

People DO care because most people DON'T want to continue playing on old outdated hardware 7 years after they bought it. In the Technology market it's extremely rare to see people continuing to use a technological device for more than 5 years before demanding a new model of sorts. From TVs to Phones to consoles most of these devices see new, better models at least 4 years after launch. Heck most TVs and Phones are even sooner with yearly released new models.

People do care.
 

Mozza

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Where have you been? Litterally EVERY other Switch video/article/thread topic is about Switch 2.

People DO care because most people DON'T want to continue playing on old outdated hardware 7 years after they bought it. In the Technology market it's extremely rare to see people continuing to use a technological device for more than 5 years before demanding a new model of sorts. From TVs to Phones to consoles most of these devices see new, better models at least 4 years after launch. Heck most TVs and Phones are even sooner with yearly released new models.

People do care.
I don't think a month has passed since the Switch has launched, when there has not been videos of a Switch Pro, in fact it would be more remarkable if a month passed without one. Still all rumors until Nintendo releases some actual information. You want it to be true, but that's a lot different from suggesting a lot of Switch owners also want this.

Some people care, as to how many is a mystery, with no concrete evidence.
 
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MrA

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Switch isn't selling 33M more to beat the DS. It's done.

It had a good run though. 2nd best selling handheld, 3rd overall gaming device.

The new Pokemon will end being the peak of the franchise and likely the best selling game in the series never to be topped.
It still can, if this year is another 30% decline were looking at about 14 million switches sold, leaving leaving the switch at 136 million, if it tails like the ps4 and only gets another 5% post successor it only hits about 142million,(though this would be weird as sony dropped the still healthy ps4 for extenuating circumstances) if it tails like most Nintendo consoles and does another 15% were lookin at just over 20 million more so 156 million
If it tails like nintendos failures post successor and that it no more sales (I can't see this as that would mean stopping production this year)

Obvious a worse decline this years hurts the chances and a gentler decline improves it,
I don't think its an easy road but if Nintendo plays all cards right I think they can beat the ds, beating the ps2 would require making every perfect move from here out.
Now there are some things that could totally change the game, they could totally drop it, they could have some left field variants
Just saying it can't ignored past trends,
 

Marvel14

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I don't even see 12 million for this year just going with the trend and expecting a similar decrease % going off Nintendos dropped forecast numbers for the recent quarter,
Current annual forecast is 18 million from 19 million a drop of 5.5%. Sales would have to drop 33% from 18 million to hit 12 million. What trend are you on about?
 

Marvel14

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It still can, if this year is another 30% decline were looking at about 14 million switches sold, leaving leaving the switch at 136 million, if it tails like the ps4 and only gets another 5% post successor it only hits about 142million,(though this would be weird as sony dropped the still healthy ps4 for extenuating circumstances) if it tails like most Nintendo consoles and does another 15% were lookin at just over 20 million more so 156 million
If it tails like nintendos failures post successor and that it no more sales (I can't see this as that would mean stopping production this year)

Obvious a worse decline this years hurts the chances and a gentler decline improves it,
I don't think its an easy road but if Nintendo plays all cards right I think they can beat the ds, beating the ps2 would require making every perfect move from here out.
Now there are some things that could totally change the game, they could totally drop it, they could have some left field variants
Just saying it can't ignored past trends,
You're not even including a price drop and game pack in combo for the OLed model. Plus a price drop for the lite. That , after new cconsole s announced plus TOTK should ensure it has legs to 150m+.
 
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