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[Havoc2049]

Grounded can be played offline. Redfall can’t.

Under what conditions can it be played offline?

It didn't work for me. I'm playing my Series X while I post here right now. I just went offline and tried to boot up Grounded and it said this game needs an online connection.

 

[midasmulligan]

They want the data underlying every aspect of someone playing the game, simple as that.

 

[01011001]

Under what conditions can it be played offline?

It didn't work for me. I'm playing my Series X while I post here right now. I just went offline and tried to boot up Grounded and it said this game needs an online connection.

pretty sure there should be a menu option to play offline in the game

 

[Havoc2049]

having additional cosmetics is a common thing for special editions, even Hi Fi Rush has a special edition with a handful of cosmetics.

and the hero pass sounds like the standard DLC season pass many games have, and those games usually do not need an internet connection.

also Forza Horizon 5 can be played offline even tho it literally gets 3 to 4 new cars each month with events happening all the time and a shitload of online functionality like a car marketplace where people can sell their cars to other players and all of the custom races, liveries, tunings and stuff being directly incorporated into the game dynamically whenever you interact with any of these things.

it also has realtime seasons and day/night cycles that are synced up online.

and it has a car pass where you get a bunch of new cars regularly as well as higher tier editions that give you bonuses like additional wheelspins.

it gets even better! Drop-in/drop-out coop? hah! casual shiz! Forza Horizon 4 and 5 throw every player into a populated server with other players that drive around and can interact with you.

yet, it works offline just fine...

there is not a singular reason a game like RedFall needs a forced online connection.

So basically the offline experience is a shell of the online experience in Forza Horizon 5. Sounds pretty dreadful, especially considering if you are playing offline, you aren't playing via Game Pass and paid good money for a gimped game. Yaa hu, a win!?!?

Hey, I'm with you that single player only games with a closed world, that you paid for, shouldn't require an online connection. I just don't think Redfall falls into that category.

 

[Faust]

Under what conditions can it be played offline?

It didn't work for me. I'm playing my Series X while I post here right now. I just went offline and tried to boot up Grounded and it said this game needs an online connection.

Maybe it has changed. I haven’t played it much since a month post it’s release on Pc, but was able to play with a lack of internet.

 

[Kvally]

Maybe it has changed. I haven’t played it much since a month post it’s release on Pc, but was able to play with a lack of internet.

It hasn't changed. You are asked to sign in, but there is also a "play offline" button at the bottom. This was there as of two weeks ago at least. Not sure if it changed in the past 2 weeks.

 

[Dutchy]

Yeah, I’m sure I’m 10 years the game I will want to be playing is the GaaS Redfall. How old is Destiny? I feel zero need to go back to that series either.

How many books and movies or literally any other kind of material goods do you own that you haven't looked at in over a decade? Now how bummed would you be if those things simply ceased to exist over time? I can't imagine that you wouldn't.

Not to start any console wars but I'm getting massive Senjutsu vibes and have a feeling that everyone justifying this practice is just desperately looking for a way to defend yet another mediocre first party addition to the Xbox' library.

How old is Destiny? I feel zero need to go back to that series either.

Good thing not everybody is like you. I'd be bummed as hell knowing that 200 hours of brilliant (and arguebly better than D2) content is unavailable to be experienced by anyone, ever again.

 

[Kvally]

Not to start any console wars but I'm getting massive Senjutsu vibes and have a feeling that everyone justifying this practice is just desperately looking for a way to defend yet another mediocre first party addition to the Xbox' library.

A game you haven't played....and you start with "not to start any console wars". I think you missed the boat.

 

[Dutchy]

A game you haven't played....and you start with "not to start any console wars". I think you missed the boat.

Plenty of trailers to draw my conclusions from. But I'll play it and be honest if I feel otherwise!

 

[Kvally]

Plenty of trailers to draw my conclusions from. But I'll play it and be honest if I feel otherwise!

I wouldn't buy it if it didn't have single player. The sale almost escaped me until it was confirmed to have it. The game looks great to me, even as a PS fan, but I have lost my online excitement (and time) that I once had 20 years ago.

 

[01011001]

So basically the offline experience is a shell of the online experience in Forza Horizon 5. Sounds pretty dreadful, especially considering if you are playing offline, you aren't playing via Game Pass and paid good money for a gimped game. Yaa hu, a win!?!?

it's absolutely not gimped, it's different. I know someone who only plays it in offline mode and only goes online whenever there's a specific car he wants to unlock in weekly challenges.

the offline mode in newer forza games is tailored to offline players. seasons run off of your consoles internal clock for example.
the things you miss out on are things I personally actually also barely engage with when playing Forza.
I mean yeah it's nice that you can download fancy Paintjobs from other players, but I always make my own anyways, so nothing lost there.
Forzathon stuff is usually also boring AF to me, I only do it if a car I really want is tied to a challenge/challenges.

playing FH5 offline in many ways can be a way nicer experience because it's less IN YOUR FACE at all times with it's "look it's the new fall season stuff!, btw you got 201725 new super wheel spins!!! yeahhhh!!! and there are 20 new messages!"

in offline mode it's just a really nice open world racing game.

Hey, I'm with you that single player only games with a closed world, that you paid for, shouldn't require an online connection. I just don't think Redfall falls into that category.

yes it absolutely does fall into that category from every single thing we have seen from it.

if you are playing offline, you aren't playing via Game Pass

also it seems like I have to reiterate that you absolutely can play gamepass games offline for I think 30 days until you have to check in again

 

[Kvally]

it's absolutely not gimped, it's different. I know someone who only plays it in offline mode and only goes online whenever there's a specific car he wants to unlock in weekly challenges.

the offline mode in newer forza games is tailored to offline players. seasons run off of your consoles internal clock for example.
the things you miss out on are things I personally actually also barely engage with when playing Forza.
I mean yeah it's nice that you can download fancy Paintjobs from other players, but I always make my own anyways, so nothing lost there.
Forzathon stuff is usually also boring AF to me, I only do it if a car I really want is tied to a challenge/challenges.

playing FH5 offline in many ways can be a way nicer experience because it's less IN YOUR FACE at all times with it's "look it's the new fall season stuff!, btw you got 201725 new super wheel spins!!! yeahhhh!!! and there are 20 new messages!"

Sometimes I should play my FH5 offline. The map can be LITTERED with so many tasks to do that are "new" that it's frustrating because they literally take up the entire map with hundreds of icons. I go into the map settings (RB) and unselect all, and choose what I want to work on. But then when I do that it seems I end up adding more by completing more. I don't know if these are all programmed by Playground Games are or if they are randomly generated (like No Man's Sky planets).

 

[01011001]

Sometimes I should play my FH5 offline. The map can be LITTERED with so many tasks to do that are "new" that it's frustrating because they literally take up the entire map with hundreds of icons. I go into the map settings (RB) and unselect all, and choose what I want to work on. But then when I do that it seems I end up adding more by completing more. I don't know if these are all programmed by Playground Games are or if they are randomly generated (like No Man's Sky planets).

the icons on the map are all placed by Playground games. offline mode doesn't change that much about it.

that's one of the things I don't like about modern Forza. it just throws shit at you left and right...
"here take 2 million bucks", "hey you got 10 wheelspins!", "here are 20 new events you unlocked because you upgraded the festival"...

they try to throw everything at you in the hopes that everyone finds a thing they like and as a result it feels unfocused imo.

 

[Gamezone]

Redfall is an online GaaS title that lets you play single player. If you really feel the need to play this game in 10 years, and haven’t moved on the the next 20 GaaS titles, I’ll buy you a coke.

Doesn't matter, it's still bad for preservation. I'm online all the time, and I probably won't play it in 10 years, but I understand why people voice their opinion to prevent this from becoming the norm.

 

[Kvally]

the icons on the map are all placed by Playground games. offline mode doesn't change that much about it.

that's one of the things I don't like about modern Forza. it just throws shit at you left and right...
"here take 2 million bucks", "hey you got 10 wheelspins!", "here are 20 new events you unlocked because you upgraded the festival"...

they try to throw everything at you in the hopes that everyone finds a thing they like and as a result it feels unfocused imo.

Yes, there is a loss of focus there. I don't mind the wheel spins or the money. Last time I looked, I had 20 unused Super Wheel Spins. What I don't like about Forza Horizon, which can't be avoided, is the story, the avatars and fucking mittens, or socks or leather spanks.....THAT to me makes the game unfocused. In addition to that, is the last part that you mentioned "here are 20 new events" and then there goes my map again, PACKED full of stuff. STOP THAT.

I did buy the castle for $5,000,000 this weekend though! Woo hoo!

 

[01011001]

I did buy the castle for $5,000,000 this weekend though! Woo hoo!

the most important property is that one beach house tho, because that gives you the ability to fast travel to evey street on the map!

which makes the weekly events way more tolerable imo because you can just instantly get there

 

[Kvally]

the most important property is that one beach house tho, because that gives you the ability to fast travel to evey street on the map!

which makes the weekly events way more tolerable imo because you can just instantly get there

That is FO SHO. The castle was my last one though! And I fast travel like a FREAK. I am glad fast travel is so fast on the Series X. If I had to go back to fast travel on the Xbox One (have cars delivered to me on the Xbox One), I would go NUTS!

 

[01011001]

That is FO SHO. The castle was my last one though! And I fast travel like a FREAK. I am glad fast travel is so fast on the Series X. If I had to go back to fast travel on the Xbox One (have cars delivered to me on the Xbox One), I would go NUTS!

yeah, the SSD speeds of less than 2sec loading really helps this game a lot

 

[YeulEmeralda]

People who have nothing against online are actual idiots

You could play Unreal tournament offline. Do games still do bots?

 

[Kvally]

You could play Unreal tournament offline. Do games still do bots?

COD does bots

 

[01011001]

You could play Unreal tournament offline. Do games still do bots?

offline also meant LAN back in the day... LAN parties were usually fully offline...

also something that was guttet from almost all modern games in favour of selling MTX by forcing an online connection.

 

[Havoc2049]

it's absolutely not gimped, it's different. I know someone who only plays it in offline mode and only goes online whenever there's a specific car he wants to unlock in weekly challenges.

the offline mode in newer forza games is tailored to offline players. seasons run off of your consoles internal clock for example.
the things you miss out on are things I personally actually also barely engage with when playing Forza.
I mean yeah it's nice that you can download fancy Paintjobs from other players, but I always make my own anyways, so nothing lost there.
Forzathon stuff is usually also boring AF to me, I only do it if a car I really want is tied to a challenge/challenges.

playing FH5 offline in many ways can be a way nicer experience because it's less IN YOUR FACE at all times with it's "look it's the new fall season stuff!, btw you got 201725 new super wheel spins!!! yeahhhh!!! and there are 20 new messages!"

in offline mode it's just a really nice open world racing game.




yes it absolutely does fall into that category from every single thing we have seen from it.




also it seems like I have to reiterate that you absolutely can play gamepass games offline for I think 30 days until you have to check in again

Are you sure with all Game Pass games? I'm a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber and I have Grounded on my Series X. When I read in this forum that Grounded could be played offline, I thought oh cool, let me check it out, just in case that rare scenario ever comes up. I went in my settings and turned off my internet and went to boot up Grounded and it didn't even boot up. It went strait to a notification that the game requires a internet connection to play. There was no menu to play offline. I have played it in the last 30 days and have unlocked several achievements in Grounded this month. A friend and I are going for 100% in the game.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Is your console registered as your "home" console within your MS account? I think that's the only way to start the GP games in offline mode.

 

[01011001]

Are you sure with all Game Pass games? I'm a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber and I have Grounded on my Series X. When I read in this forum that Grounded could be played offline, I thought oh cool, let me check it out, just in case that rare scenario ever comes up. I went in my settings and turned off my internet and went to boot up Grounded and it didn't even boot up. It went strait to a notification that the game requires a internet connection to play. There was no menu to play offline.

that is weird. I have played multiple gp games offline before.
have you played the game at least once while being connected? or did you download, turn the Internet off and then started it for the first time?
also do you have your xbox set as your home system?

there are games that do not work offline, I think the publisher can restrict that. but I would be very surprised if Microsoft would do that on a first party game

 

[Aeson]

Why are people defending this shit? It in no way is a benefit to the consumer. I will never buy this gaas garbage every publisher wants to peddle.