electroshockwave
Member
Wolfenstein. And Plants vs. Zombies shouldn't be ignored on the multiplayer front.
Metro Redux too and you can't dismiss it as a re-release when you're getting GTA and Master Chief Collection too.
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[Report] Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Preorders 50% behind Ghosts
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Wolfenstein. And Plants vs. Zombies shouldn't be ignored on the multiplayer front.
Metro Redux too and you can't dismiss it as a re-release when you're getting GTA and Master Chief Collection too.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
This
Time for Splatoon to rise and shine, then! /s
Seriously, I hope Splatoon does well, COD decline or not
Thanks!
geordiemp
Member
Im glad that cute platormers don't have a market share to loose....
whats your point
Back on topic, getting tired of the 4 x DLC and the crazy fractured playlists players with different map maps causes. Activision is greedy.
COD is good for 4 to 6 months and then the player base is split up
Also they keep lying about dedicated servers.
xXxDieselxXx
Member
Able to play 24 hours before release is not enough incentive for me to pre-order. They need to make a better offer.
Aquamarine
Member
It will be a real asset having him in retail threads...like NPD threads...because GameStop is such an important retailer to overall USA sales discussion.
I look forward to it.
Ghosts turned me off from the series. I just couldn't get into it and enjoy the MP. I've been most successful with MP, when Treyarch built the game (WAW, BOPS 1/2). The rest of the series to me, less MW4, never really took with me. I'm not sure why.
Im going to take a year off unless the reviews are mind blowing or something. There are plenty oft other games to pass the time.
Im going to take a year off unless the reviews are mind blowing or something. There are plenty oft other games to pass the time.
SwiftDeath
Member
Yay! Hopefully a little more retailer insight from time to time
Uno Venova
Banned
I thought MW3 was equally as terrible as Ghosts, but Ghosts gets the nod in the aint-shit factor for terrible performance on the PS4.
CoDs rampant success helped green light projects that were like CoD, everything else got left by the wayside. I'm all for a less homogenous and more varied AAA industry, though at this stage I don't think it's possible.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Counter Strike is on its way too.
The Shogun
Banned
One thing worth remembering is that even though reserves are down a lot, this doesn't mean the game will "bomb" or hugely under-perform.
Many consumers I've spoken to, are still interested in the title but feel burned out / unsure after Ghosts. That game did real, quantifiable damage to the brand. It really did. Franchise fatigue was already in effect, as has been seen with each COD tracking slightly less for the last several titles.
But the drop from Ghosts, to AW reserves has been severe. Sledgehammer needs to deliver a quality product that both reviews well and and has great consumer word of mouth or there will be even larger impacts going forward. I'm sure the pressure Sledgehammer is feeling is immense and I really hope they can deliver as COD falling off isn't good for the health of the industry.
Many consumers I've spoken to, are still interested in the title but feel burned out / unsure after Ghosts. That game did real, quantifiable damage to the brand. It really did. Franchise fatigue was already in effect, as has been seen with each COD tracking slightly less for the last several titles.
But the drop from Ghosts, to AW reserves has been severe. Sledgehammer needs to deliver a quality product that both reviews well and and has great consumer word of mouth or there will be even larger impacts going forward. I'm sure the pressure Sledgehammer is feeling is immense and I really hope they can deliver as COD falling off isn't good for the health of the industry.
Same with me. I only really play CoD MP - everything else is just filler. AW is supposed to get a 3rd person mode - that should be good (actually liked it in MW2). Hoping MGS TPP does something good with MP.
JumpJeff84
Member
Remember when Call of Duty games were all about being a random soldier in a war?
burnside13
Member
As much as I agree, I'm sure this crap would put the whole war into disrepute
Man COD really lost their way
Mushroomer25
Member
I have to wonder if Activision will do something in 2016 (assuming Blops3 is at least a moderate success, and the franchise rolls on) to hide Infinity Ward's involvement in the product. Ghosts burned even the COD loyal. Maybe a rebranding of the studio?
Conrad Link
Member
F**k this franchise, still no Demolition in AW?
Save us Treyarch!
Save us Treyarch!
Hip Hop
Member
Swat/Police theme would be cool. It fits perfectly.
hemo memo
Member
They need to give the series a break.
The Shogun
Banned
F**k this franchise, still no Demolition in AW?
Save us Treyarch!
Word on the street is Blops3 is current gen only but that Activision was considering a last gen port. I'm really interested based off AW sales split which way they'll go.
And let me be clear Im not saying whether it will or won't be Current Gen only. I dont have confirmation on anything.
IMO - they need to change what's standard:
The call out voiceovers
The gun sounds
The animations
The "here are your class slots"
The loading game splash screen (they're partially getting this right with the vr shooting range)
The "here are your four season dlc map packs"
The HUD, mini map
The fact that a sniper rifle doesn't break through glass with the first bullet but throwing a grenade can
Getting stuck in random geometry
Anything that makes the map feel alive/organic (not these cheap scripted events like in ghosts)
These are the things that make you feel/know you're playing COD. That's the formula that needs to be changed - because you are expecting it.
IMO the gun play is extremely fun/satisfying way better than BF. I feel an attachment to the weapons and I don't feel that in BF.
User 479360
Banned
As does Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed, which has more niche gameplay than Call of Duty. I never expected AC to be a successful annual series because of its gameplay.
It's not like it'll ever happen, though.
simplythebest
Banned
Still can't remember where this is from, but this was bound to happen sooner or later when you
a franchise
a franchise
TheChewyWaffles
Member
These guys did MW3? I might pass. MW3 had absolute shit spawns and godawful maps with zero flow and no choke points.
I certainly am. I can't wait to see what they do with 3 years dev time. I was starting to get excited for AW after they hyped the coop reveal then they dropped Survival on us. I'm going to wait until after launch to see if I want it now.
Stormhammer
Member
50% more preorders used to live here..
veloxStrix
Banned
I hope not. You can already see Activision's influence in the massive story changes that happened in Destiny pre-launch. :c
Hip Hop
Member
its fake
That is probably the biggest problem the industry faces, in that COD failing will actually severely hurt it. The fact the industry itself relies on COD making those ridiculous sales is super scary.
Bravo!
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Eh. Not surprising. Advanced Warfare will still probably be pretty good, but none of that matters as long as Treyarch's next game isn't out yet. Now, should THAT bomb? It's a freaking wrap.
You sure? Some of the popular youtubers were spilling it. That would suck if it was fake.
Regardless though, there's a lot of meat in a CoD game - 4 modes would be nuts.
As I understand it Sledgehammer largely worked on the campaign for MW3, and helped with the 'manpower' part of Inifinity Ward developing the multiplayer. I don't think Sledgehammer played a large part in designing the multiplayer in that game; I've seen a few interviews staying their involvement in the singleplayer, but I haven't seen one discussing the multiplayer.
CrazedProfessional
Member
F2P shooters have caught up to the blockbuster Shootbangs. I can do what I do in CoD and Battlefirld in Planetside 2 for free.
RedAssedApe
Banned
no because most people didn't jump on the bandwagon until COD4. they probably didn't even know it was a WW shooter outside of the WAW/Treyarch outlier
Still waiting for that console version. What's taking so long?
SolidSnakex
Member
Raven worked on the multiplayer while Sledgehammer did the single player. It's also worth keeping in mind that both of them were brought in to basically "save" the project after Infinity Ward fell apart due to the mass exodus from the studio after Jason and Vince were fired. So I don't think it's fair to judge either of those studios on that game when the development of it was a disaster.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Classic Activision. Like Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero they run the franchises into the ground with over saturation, choking their own markets.
But why not? They are so good at what they are doing, that the short term perspective (5-10) years seems to give them more than enough revenue to buy future studios and great franchises to keep this on repeat.
But why not? They are so good at what they are doing, that the short term perspective (5-10) years seems to give them more than enough revenue to buy future studios and great franchises to keep this on repeat.
Daffy Duck
Member
Confirmed by a dev as fake.
Whether it was intentional or purely done because they could not actually finish the game, look at the breathing room between GTA4 and GTA5? And GTA4 had its fair share of critics and negative reception, but years of space, allowed GTA5 to come out and feel fresh rather than "here we go again.."
We know that in a couple of months from now, that same guy Eric Hirshberg with his black suit will stand on a stage and tell you how the NEXT Call of Duty will "change everything!" and the best thing ever.
The trailer will be bombastic, they will have developer interviews who this is going to rock, some music from Eminem or Kanye or whoever-the-fuck to accompany the trailer. New and even more convoluted ways to level up etc. Likely just before E3 in 2015 happens, i bet they even booked the locale and are getting ready for that already. And people know this, its like we are in a amusement park and going through the same ride again and again and again
Its not just the games that have become formulaic and predictable, its also everything around them. And does that really matter to the masses who buy or used to buy these games? Probably not, but its just another sign how everything has stagnated with them and they just riding the horse on autopilot.
We know that in a couple of months from now, that same guy Eric Hirshberg with his black suit will stand on a stage and tell you how the NEXT Call of Duty will "change everything!" and the best thing ever.
The trailer will be bombastic, they will have developer interviews who this is going to rock, some music from Eminem or Kanye or whoever-the-fuck to accompany the trailer. New and even more convoluted ways to level up etc. Likely just before E3 in 2015 happens, i bet they even booked the locale and are getting ready for that already. And people know this, its like we are in a amusement park and going through the same ride again and again and again
Its not just the games that have become formulaic and predictable, its also everything around them. And does that really matter to the masses who buy or used to buy these games? Probably not, but its just another sign how everything has stagnated with them and they just riding the horse on autopilot.