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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]

I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
It will be interesting when we get passed dec i cant think of ms next exclusive game considering sony seem to have a fair few biggish titles q1 and onwards. What is ms next exclusive title?.

Who knows. I agree that Sony will make back that loss pretty easily next year. Cause the games are coming both first party and third.

But for this month specifically, yeah, MS winning with the kinds of deals they had on the biggest month of the year was a matter of course.
 

stryke

Member
Imagine you're an arrow fan and you havent watched the mid season final yet. Imagine you come into this thread because you like your daily games drama. Imagine you see that gif and you don't notice it was Oliver being kicked. Imagine you then read your comment explaining what it's all about. Imagine that person would be you.

Thanks. :(

How can you not notice? They show his face.
 

Artorias

Banned
Imagine you're an arrow fan and you havent watched the mid season final yet. Imagine you come into this thread because you like your daily games drama. Imagine you see that gif and you don't notice it was Oliver being kicked. Imagine you then read your comment explaining what it's all about. Imagine that person would be you.

Thanks. :(

Uhhhh, the post you quoted didn't explain the spoiler...yours did.
 

TheOddOne

Member
Imagine if Stephen Amell was capable of more than one expression.

Don't kill me Arrow fans.
acting_patrick_stewart.gif
 

blakep267

Member
Seems high, they only just hit 1 million sold in the UK. I can't imagine they'd want the best part of year's sales in stock.
Well it's shipped. So of they are at 1.1-1.2 in actual sales by year end, they probably want 400-500k in stock there. So maybe not 2 million, but 1.5 ish

The U.S. would have to be more than 6 million shipped
 

Raytow

Member
I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.
They sure won the previous two gens.
 

vpance

Member
I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.

Yes, MS is like the Hulk.
 

Sweep14

Member
Sony knew since early November that the would not win this NPD and probably not the December one. IMHO, they don't care. Their worldwide lead is significant enough for them. They sold more than 800000 consoles in US this month which is good and they will certainly outsell the X1 worldwide for November and December. This war is a worldwide one people...
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.

People are probably overestimating this win. Its good that MS wins a month, but its more concerning what they will do outside of black friday or the november month when people arent in such a rush to get the deals and the console is a higher price. Will the sales go back to what they were previously?

MS can't loose 170 bucks from their original price plus store gift cards and free games and not feel anything.

Its also only two regions. They are trying to claw back even a little marketshare from their home territories, its not really a win per se, even though it is.

I was kinda sad that Sony was equalized before we found out the truth. Sony didn't have to literally do anything and they still would have gotten close. That means they would have continued to do little of anything. Maybe now they will learn to be slightly more proactive
 

liger05

Member
Sony knew since early November that the would not win this NPD and probably not the December one. IMHO, they don't care. Their worldwide lead is significant enough for them. They sold more than 800000 consoles which is good and they will certainly outsell the X1 worldwide for November and December. This war is a worldwide one people...

Shame this thread is about NPD
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
imagine you're an arrow fan and you havent watched the mid season final yet. imagine you come into this thread because you like your daily games drama. imagine you see that gif. imagine that person would be you.

Imagine you're an Arrow fan but you didn't realise that gif was from arrow.That person is me.
 

wapplew

Member
People are probably overestimating this win. Its good that MS wins a month, but its more concerning what they will do outside of black friday or the november month when people arent in such a rush to get the deals and the console is a higher price. Will the sales go back to what they were previously?

MS can't loose 170 bucks from their original price plus store gift cards and free games and not feel anything.

Why worry about it when they can easily win another holiday and off set a whole year of gap?
 
I know cboat has been off lately, but i wonder if he just spouted the first bs numbers he heard or trolling.

X1 sold a lot more expected even with the pricecut, their plan was executed perfectly. Sony should have had that black friday bundle announced early.
 
So by the end of the year are MS looking at
6 million shipped to NA
2 million to Uk
2 million 50 other countries?

If MS only shipped 6m to N.A. they'd be sold out everywhere sometime around now. (mid December) They're looking at selling ~6m in USA alone, there could be 7m shipped to North America easily.
 
I'm disappointed that utter shit like GTA and ACU make the top 10 but Dragon Age doesn't. I hope the GOTY PR boat gets it in the top 5 for December. I don't want EA to be wary of approving a sequel because cheap rehashes and cash-ins beat it in November.
 

Artorias

Banned
Why worry about it when they can easily win another holiday and off set a whole year of gap?

Probably because giving up $50-100 million every BF when the competition is making profit is not very sustainable. They have the money to do it sure, but they have little to gain now that the war for the living room has proven to be a dream at best.
 

stryke

Member
I'm disappointed that utter shit like GTA and ACU make the top 10 but Dragon Age doesn't. I hope the GOTY PR boat gets it in the top 5 for December. I don't want EA to be wary of approving a sequel because cheap rehashes and cash-ins beat it in November.

It had a better launch than the previous two games. I don't think that EA are that worried.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Why worry about it when they can easily win another holiday and off set a whole year of gap?

That only matters if a holiday like this one, which was especially anemic for Sony happens again. Which i doubt they would let happen if they have any sense. Next year will be much more competitive on both ends, i'd wager.
 

Castef

Banned
My idea.

Microsoft told every employee a different range in the difference between PS4 and XB1.

Like, let's tell Jim the gap is 4k-5k.

Let's tell Amanda the gap is 10k-15k.

Let's tell Bruno the gap is 7k-10k.

Then, let's go on NeoGaf and discover who is cboat.

DavidSuchet_-_Poirot.png
 
Why worry about it when they can easily win another holiday and off set a whole year of gap?

Are there new figures since last night? When I went to bed XBO was about 400k ahead of PS4, which from my rough maths means the gap is still around 700k in PS4's favour (500k-600k if you're just talking about the 2014 sales gap).

Also 'easily win' is debatable given the deals MS were pushing.
 

T.O.P

Banned
My idea.

Microsoft told every employee a different range in the difference between PS4 and XB1.

Like, let's tell Jim the gap is 4k-5k.

Let's tell Amanda the gap is 10k-15k.

Let's tell Bruno the gap is 7k-10k.

Then, let's go on NeoGaf and discover who is cboat.

DavidSuchet_-_Poirot.png

omg
 

Rolf NB

Member
Why worry about it when they can easily win another holiday and off set a whole year of gap?
We're looking at 200M in hardware subsidies plus whatever it cost to make people online say silly things like "oh but they have that one exclusive I can latch on so first party doesn't matter".
 
I really ask myself how Take-Two constantly manages to loose so much money.

They'll have some good/ok results in this quarter because of PS4/XBO - GTA V, but their net loss for this fiscal year is - $76.772.000 currently.


*Last years net loss was - $186.034.000 for the same timeframe.
 
My idea.

Microsoft told every employee a different range in the difference between PS4 and XB1.

Like, let's tell Jim the gap is 4k-5k.

Let's tell Amanda the gap is 10k-15k.

Let's tell Bruno the gap is 7k-10k.

Then, let's go on NeoGaf and discover who is cboat.

DavidSuchet_-_Poirot.png

But that would mean cboat posted something without a deliberate typo, which is pretty out of character.
 
My idea.

Microsoft told every employee a different range in the difference between PS4 and XB1.

Like, let's tell Jim the gap is 4k-5k.

Let's tell Amanda the gap is 10k-15k.

Let's tell Bruno the gap is 7k-10k.

Then, let's go on NeoGaf and discover who is cboat.

DavidSuchet_-_Poirot.png

I assume this is standard practice for tracking down leaks; kind of like putting certain mistakes or watermarks on a script you circulate to tell which copy was let into the wild.
 

Wabba

Member
I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.

This is going to be a fun race. The worldwide sales is going to be Sony domination but US and UK looks like its going to be a close race. They problems is that Microsofts price penetration can't go on for too long, they must have gone on a big minus this holiday with the different deals and bundles. But if Sony wins each month and Microsoft takes the holiday seasons it will almost go up. The interesting thing here is to see if Microsoft has gained any positive consumer awareness. Last year it was Sony domination but the different deals and bundles this year from Microsoft has been like a present to the consumers.
 

Miles X

Member
Sidetracking, but PS4 sales.

us npd aug 10: ~3.8m
worldwide sony aug 10: ~10m

us npd nov 29: ~5.63m

Assuming the same ratio (38%), worldwide would be 14.7 million. Assuming November is stronger due to Black Friday in the US, increasing the ratio (40%), the 14.1 million number Sony showed on PSX could indeed be their worldwide sellthrough sales until Nov. 29/30.

Thanks Road, I found this interesting.

If they can get around 1m for Dec, that should mean they will hit around 16.6 - 17.2m WW
 
I'm subscribing to the theory that CBOAT was buttdevasted when he saw XB1 sales superiority, and used his cred to post bullshit just to watch the small fire that he sparked out.
 

Micerider

Member
I usually stay away from NPD threads. Just wanted to pitch in with my two cents and say that I have said from the start of the gen that I don't see MS losing. The more they fall behind, the more money they'll throw at the problem, and the more aggressive they'll get. Momentum is on their side now, and the ball is in Sony's court, but I still see MS winning the marathon. This is the scenario in the US and UK at least.

In the US you mean? Then maybe. Worldwide, it would almost be a miracle for them to win with current status.

That said, nice performance on NPD for november. They needed that to stay relevant and managed it well (arguably with a high cost attached though). Hopefully this will lead them to support more original first parties.
 

samar11

Member
I assume this is standard practice for tracking down leaks; kind of like putting certain mistakes or watermarks on a script you circulate to tell which copy was let into the wild.

Is that a kanga in your pic dude? What do you think about the whole gta 5 being pulled off from the shelves in selected stores in Aus?
 

wapplew

Member
That only matters if a holiday like this one, which was especially anemic for Sony happens again. Which i doubt they would let happen if they have any sense. Next year will be much more competitive on both ends, i'd wager.

Why can't they? Sony have what for the holiday? Uncharted 4? They spread thier titles all over the year, when it come to holiday,
it will be forza6, halo 5, tomb raider maybe QB vs uncharted 4 and...weather patch for Bloodborne?
Not to mention MS have another COD and AC marketing deal, Sony don't have destiny to save them this time around.
 
Imagine you're an Arrow fan but you didn't realise that gif was from arrow.That person is me.

edit: beaten twice, but not
kicked off a cliff.
Fuck off.


Thank you for posting unmarked spoilers. I spoilered it for anyone who sees my post.


Does no one have any common sense?
 
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