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[shadowsdarknes]

So for all of those who gloated that they were right about the price increase, do we get to make fun of them now?

"I can't believe people can't listen. They said the price drop was TEMPORARY! Why are people so dumb?"

Yawn.

 

[allan-bh]

People that bought Xbox One in january must be pretty angry right now.

 

[The Shogun]

With those holiday numbers the PS4 and Xbone must be neck and neck in the US now.

We don't have PS4 numbers yet. We don't know the actual gap for December.

But its possible yes. MS had a fucking brilliant holiday season.

 

[loaf of bread]

Yep, they saw the numbers and realized $349 was the only way to catch up.

With it being permanent, and the sales reflecting the price point, I wonder what action Sony will take.

TLOU is bundled with every console so its sort of the same price.

 

[Roberto Larcos]

November + december.

Xbox 360 sold 511k units in November 2006

Maths:

500k + 1100k = 1600k
1600k + 50% = 2400k
2400k - 1200k (November) = 1200k

There's your estimate.

EDIT: Beat me, Miles.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Yep, they saw the numbers and realized $349 was the only way to catch up.

With it being permanent, and the sales reflecting the price point, I wonder what action Sony will take.

If Sony wants to keep America I expect a price drop soon.

 

[Mpl90]

Nov + Dec 2006 for 360 was 1.641m

50% more than that is 821k + 1.641m = 2.462m

Minus the 1.23m it did in Nov and you get 1.23m for Dec?

I was going to do the math, but yeah, it should be correct.

 

[The Artisan]

It isn't a smart idea to just regurgitate information you get without actually thinking about it. You built this legacy...time to start appreciating it.

And stop counting the number of times you are avatar quoted....it is going to happen a lot.

Everyone made that point clear. And legacies aren't built in less than a year. This is just mockery and I don't appreciate it.

 

[vinnygambini]

Wow. Microsoft is really aggressive with their pricing this gen.

Maybe too early, but seems it might look the same as last gen, only closer in the US than usual:

US: MSFT
EU: SNE
JP: NTDOY

People that bought Xbox One in january must be pretty angry right now.

Price-protection.

 

[jmaine_ph]

So before November PS4 was leading by 1.2 million, then xbox closed the gap by 400k, so that leaves PS4 with a 700k lead, right?

Yes.

 

[Derpyduck]

Was there really a doubt that they also won December? Question is by how many hundreds of thousands. My guess is 2.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

What now, Sony?
October was the last of yours...

What? LOL

 

[Goodacre0081]

Yep, they saw the numbers and realized $349 was the only way to catch up.

With it being permanent, and the sales reflecting the price point, I wonder what action Sony will take.

i think it's time for Sony to exercise its ability to keep price parity

 

[Kysen]

TLOU is bundled with every console so its sort of the same price.

Nah, TLOU isn't worth $50 at retail anymore.

 

[Trevelyon]

With those holiday numbers the PS4 and Xbone must be neck and neck in the US now.

Could very well be close, we don't know if PS4 kept pace in Dec or was blown out again. It'll be marginal nonetheless.

 

[jmaine_ph]

Nov + Dec 2006 for 360 was 1.641m

50% more than that is 821k + 1.641m = 2.462m

Minus the 1.23m it did in Nov and you get 1.23m for Dec?

Wow your fast!

 

[allan-bh]

After The Last of Us bundle Microsoft had no choice.

 

[Welfare]

Damnit, shouldn't have gotten cocky with raising my Xbox One prediction at the last minute.

 

[3rdamention]

Yeah I had no idea how long it would last or not when they said it was going back up. I thought they would have stuck to $399 through the slow months of January, February but smart call on their part.

They probably raised it back up just long enough so people didn't get pissed off that they were advertising the drop as a "limited time only." So it was a limited time only I guess... Raised it for about 2 weeks, then dropped it again without any "limited time only" asterisk....


Well played MS, well played...

 

[Final Verdict]

Nov + Dec 2006 for 360 was 1.641m

50% more than that is 821k + 1.641m = 2.462m

Minus the 1.23m it did in Nov and you get 1.23m for Dec?

Wow!! Thanks

Looks like I lowballed again ://

 

[The Shogun]

Wow your fast!

Miles X is a badass when it comes to tracking historical sales data.

 

[ArchedThunder]

TLOU is bundled with every console so its sort of the same price.

They should have two SKUs then, one for $400 with TLOU and one for $350 with no game.

 

[ViciousDS]

Nah, TLOU isn't worth $50 at retail anymore.

I'll add to that saying you can get a digital copy of it all over the webs for $15 or less. Even have seen gaffers selling them as low as $10.

Sony just needs to drop the price $50 and stop bundling first party. Sometimes people don't want the games in the bundles for $50 but would rather use that on something else.

 

[Loris146]

After The Last of Us bundle Microsoft had no choice.

Probably they saw sales in the first and second week of January and ...

Plus the TLOU bundle as you say.

 

[Mpl90]

With that estimate, it also looks like December was "just" on par with November. I don't know how to take that.

 

[Cidd]

Well I knew this was bound to happen sooner or later. I think MS will take the lead in the US by April, Sony will hold the rest of the world.

 

[allan-bh]

If XBox One sold ~1.2m and win big, PS4 sales are kinda disappointing

 

[Jomjom]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

They probably raised it back up just long enough so people didn't get pissed off that they were advertising the drop as a "limited time only." So it was a limited time only I guess... Raised it for about 2 weeks, then dropped it again without any "limited time only" asterisk....


Well played MS, well played...

Seems spot on to me. Exactly what I thought.

 

[yoplay]

Well I knew this was bound to happen sooner or later. I think MS will take the lead in the US by April, Sony will hold the rest of the world.

Nope. Bloodborne.

 

[RisesRises]

Xbox One $349 starting january 16

The $399 was beta tested in the future

 

[Miles X]

With that estimate, it also looks like December was "just" on par with November. I don't know how to take that.

November was a week less, but that month was just utterly loaded from start to finish.

 

[small44]

Wow. Microsoft is really aggressive with their pricing this gen.

Maybe too early, but seems it might look the same as last gen, only closer in the US than usual:

US: MSFT
EU: SNE
JP: NTDOY



Price-protection.

Next month ps4 will back to top and increase the gap again more then last year

 

[Steverulez]

Pretty obvious they weren't going to wait for E3 and they didn't.

After The Last of Us bundle Microsoft had no choice.

They were waiting to see what Sony did I suspect and they packed in... they've left themselves room to add FH2 or SO or something later on in the year too before we get the holiday bundles.

 

[Dr Bass]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

Does that really matter when they are crushing it worldwide? Kinda wonder how much they care.

 

[Ty4on]

Just some quick math, but if this is what I think it is, December was huge.

MS is probably talking about the sales since launch like they always have :/

Edit PFFFFFF. I read weekly the first time and not the second...

 

[The Shogun]

With that estimate, it also looks like December was "just" on par with November. I don't know how to take that.

Not too surprising. The first 2 weeks of the price drop in November for MS were massive.

 

[lightning2k3]

November was a week less, but that month was just utterly loaded from start to finish.

December actually sold less on a week to week basis than November? Has that ever happened before?

 

[The Artisan]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

what do you mean? they had the lead for 2 months but they brought the price back up

 

[Jomjom]

Does that really matter when they are crushing it worldwide? Kinda wonder how much they care.

Well the US is the most important country when it comes to the game industry, so it's not like it's insignificant.

I mean the PS3 pretty much beat the 360 worldwide too (except for UK), but the US still kept the 360 in front of the PS3 in total global sales.

 

[RoKKeR]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

I feel like Sony probably doesn't care that much about the "race" in the US. They are boatracing WW and realistically don't have as much price flexibility as MS does. Take the profit on the consoles you are still selling loads of and worry about dropping it if you see a drop in demand.

The US is quickly becoming MS's only market so they were obviously smart to double down on it this holiday.

 

[Welfare]

If XBox One sold ~1.2m and win big, PS4 sales are kinda disappointing

Maybe Sony just wanted to beat their 2013 number if they said the PS4 met their expectations.

 

[KillerMan91]

With those holiday numbers the PS4 and Xbone must be neck and neck in the US now.

I have hard time to believe PS4 actually decreased from November. Gap should still be sizable if Xbone did 1.25 million in December.

 

[Miles X]

December actually sold less on a week to week basis than November? Has that ever happened before?

Yup, happened to all 3 systems last gen (and not in their twilight years either).

 

[xxracerxx]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

I was able to get my PS4 with 2 games for $350 from Target in December.

 

[GnawtyDog]

I wonder if Sony regrets not dropping to $349 during the holidays now. They basically opened the door wide open for MS to get back in the race in the US.

In the race of bleeding money for market share. Probably a race Sony doesn't want to belong just yet.

 

[ps3ud0]

Can someone check that Nov and Dec 2006 had the same amount of reporting weeks as Nov and Dec 2013 - seems weird to have that 'weekly sales' qualifier if it means nothing at all. Doubt it affects those quick and dirty numbers mentioned above...

ps3ud0 8)

 

[Dr Bass]

Well the US is the most important country when it comes to the game industry, so it's not like it's insignificant.

"Important" by what metric? Percentage share of the total market? I would argue the total market is what's important when you're a multi-national corporation like Sony and MS.

Obviously every territory is "important" but talking about having a tiny lead vs. being a tiny bit behind...who cares when the overall picture is practically a 2:1 stomping? I am merely wondering if Sony cares about the lead in the U.S. if they are still growing their lead worldwide every month.

 

[Jomjom]

I was able to get my PS4 with 2 games for $350 from Target in December.

Well I mean $349 across the board. There was also a $349 PS4 on eBay, but that's not going to reach everybody.

 

[lightning2k3]

Yup, happened to all 3 systems last gen (and not in their twilight years either).

I haven't looked into historical data but I was always under the impression December was where all the sales have been historically, and only recently has Black Friday become a much bigger event. Is that not true?