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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero

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BraXzy

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@Frankie Would it be possible in the future to capture a custom menu background for a map? For example, instead of every forge map being the blank canvas background image when loading, have a custom one set similar to how you'd custom set cutscenes. Just to make maps a little more unique. It'd be great for Breakout maps too.

Maybe this will come with Forge, who knows :O
 
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malfcn

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I'm staying in this match hoping it can help Frankie. It's awful, 30 seconds of lag. Lots of suicides, 5 so far. Make that 6.
 
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BraXzy

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Welfare said:
Alright. Silvers it is then!
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I'm on silvers atm myself, there are soooooooo many uncommons and rares left for me it's unreal. I got weak and opened one of this weaks Premium Warzone packs and got two uncommons and a rare -.-

Must continue to resist.
 
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Haruko

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Had an interesting Warzone game tonight with bizarre lag.

There was some bullet and movement lag. But more importantly, Game clock, AI enemies, and grenade timers were all at half speed or slower. The post game lobby game timer showed the full 16 minutes+, but in game we were only at 7 and change on the Warzone clock. We hit 7-8 energy at the "6 minute" mark as a result.
 
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Triz

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Yeah I'm seeing lag in war zone tonight too. Haven't seen it before. Really noticeable when hitting the boost jumps, it skips frames the whole way in the air.
 
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Samurai G0SU

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Usually warzone is smooth. But twice it kicked me out of the game and said i lost connection. Xbox live then disconnected too.. Had to.reboot the xbox cause it was acting funky Internet at home okay though.
 
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malfcn

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Servers are butt right now.
Point blank rockets are a no go for me. However I die if any blast touches me. I can rain hit markers on enemies and they still don't die, again with rockets. 😕

Yup. Spawn killed over and over again.
Rockets clipped through enemy.
Rocket hit plus melee, no kill.

Is frustrating because it seems to come and go, during s match. I'll be in contention for top three and then it's like my damage is turned off.

And is happening again.
I'm up and leading by 5 kills, and then nope nope nope you're not allowed to win.
 
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Garrett 2U

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I got a message from a guy in big team battle accusing me of "lag switching" and referring to me as a "nooblet".

I feel like I'm in 2005 and I love it.
 
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ATOMICJORGE

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BleedOrange said:
Guys, guys, guys.... I'm Spartan Charging in!

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I'll see you all soon :)
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Congratulations dude! welcome to the gang ;)
 
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Ont

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Diablohead said:
Playing rockets with american servers is beyond annoying, my explosions seem to be tiny in comparison or the enemy shoots while their spartan is visually only half way through reloading, which is misleading.

Yes i'm going to moan about it because it should not be happening.
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Forcing EU players to play on American servers is wrong and my only real issue with this game.
 
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Ont said:
Forcing EU players to play on American servers is wrong and my only real issue with this game.
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Totally agree. The game is fucking awesome... Even better played locally.

Lol I was on with sordid last night, we had some questionable servers.. But, the moment he left, I was getting the west Europe datacentre every game.
 
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Madness

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Eurogamer posted a relatable article about hunting 1000/1000 in Halo 3 as part of their X360 ten year anniversary series yesterday.
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Fuck, I remember completely screwing up my lone wolves rank going for the spartan laser double kill. My cousin got it first day, and I spent the next two days going for it. I was an achievement whore then. Finally when I said Fuck it, it happened on the same day twice, on snowbound and high ground. Think I still have both in my file share.

I think in at 1730/1750, only missing two campaign scoring achievements. And the reason I stopped is because I had to do the level Cortana and I hated it so much I just left the game and never wanted to play it again. So I have Cortana and the final level campaign scoring left to do. Now I don't care about achievements.
 
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Jumeira

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All i can think of right now is getting headshots with my pistol with that satisfying (x) appearing. I didn't get to play last night so im particularly on edge today, reading you lot speak about it helps.

Game is amazing and so damn addicting.
 
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inoperativ

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Madness said:
Fuck, I remember completely screwing up my lone wolves rank going for the spartan laser double kill. My cousin got it first day, and I spent the next two days going for it. I was an achievement whore then. Finally when I said Fuck it, it happened on the same day twice, on snowbound and high ground. Think I still have both in my file share.

I think in at 1730/1750, only missing two campaign scoring achievements. And the reason I stopped is because I had to do the level Cortana and I hated it so much I just left the game and never wanted to play it again. So I have Cortana and the final level campaign scoring left to do. Now I don't care about achievements.
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I gave up on the DLC achievements, think I'm at like 1300 or something. Still the only game I've got 1000/1000 in though.
 
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Sordid

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Made a wee latency clip that wasn't teleporting if anyone is interested, it's a tiny clip of me getting shot around a corner. Originally I thought my teammate had killed me with a ground pound but friendly fire is off in Warzone isn't it? The first clip was recorded straight from my game and the second was via theatre:

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Sordid Sentinel/video/12946697

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Sordid Sentinel/video/12946737#t=1

The clips are super short so if you can't see the difference here's a comparison just before I died, the first image is from my perspective of the game and the second is from theatre/the servers perspective (look at the kill feed & my shields, these images were taken the instance before I died as close to the same time as I could get them):

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As an added bonus, here are some screenies of me shooting those enemies just before I died. For the first comparison I got my shields as close as I could from both videos, notice how according to my screen I've shot an extra bullet and the enemy is still in my sights but the server doesn't see the same thing:

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Here is a comparison of the 'extra bullet' shot, check the ammo counters to see. These images were both taken at the exact time the bullet I shot disappeared from the ammo counter, see how different my perspective is compared the dedicated servers? According to my screen my aim is on the guy and have more shields.

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Before anyone thinks this is a rage post, we donged on these guys and my k/d was positive. There were still weird things happening though.
 
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inoperativ

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Sordid said:
Made a wee latency clip that wasn't teleporting if anyone is interested, it's a tiny clip of me getting shot around a corner. Originally I thought my teammate had killed me with a ground pound but friendly fire is off in Warzone isn't it? The first clip was recorded straight from my game and the second was via theatre:

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Sordid Sentinel/video/12946697

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Sordid Sentinel/video/12946737#t=1

The clips are super short so if you can't see the difference here's a comparison just before I died, the first image is from my perspective of the game and the second is from theatre/the servers perspective (look at the kill feed & my shields, these images were taken the instance before I died as close to the same time as I could get them):



As an added bonus, here are some screenies of me shooting those enemies just before I died. For the first comparison I got my shields as close as I could from both videos, notice how according to my screen I've shot an extra bullet and the enemy is still in my sights but the server doesn't see the same thing:



Here is a comparison of the 'extra bullet' shot, check the ammo counters to see. These images were both taken at the exact time the bullet I shot disappeared from the ammo counter, see how different my perspective is compared the dedicated servers? My shields and the position of the enemies are totally different but the kill feed and ammo counters are the same




And before anyone thinks this is a rage post, we donged on these guys and my k/d was positive. There were still weird things happening though
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I think hit detection is based on a local hitscan, so if someone is in your sights the shot will always hit even if they've already gotten behind cover according to the server. Due to latency the other guy must have still seen you at that point (impossible to confirm without a clip showing his perspective though).

I quite like this solution since the shooting remains mostly responsive and satisfying even when playing on US servers but it's obvious that it places high latency players at a disadvantage, that's pretty much guaranteed to happen no matter what your solution is though. The correct thing to do is to allow people to select server or at least give local servers a much heavier weighting than other factors in the matchmaking IMO.
 
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Jumeira

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Im in UK, with open NAT & 100mb fibre optic connection, im facing serious lag for the past week. It has made me rage quit. There are points where im normally running and all of a sudden im falling to my death. Ive recorded this, but looks like im not the only one.

Have 343i said anything? Because at times, its the worst Halo experience ive had. By that i mean network connection while playing. Ive yet to play with UK/EU people too, whom i miss (no offence to US folk)
 
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Sordid

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inoperativ said:
I think hit detection is based on a local hitscan, so if someone is in your sights the shot will always hit even if they've already gotten behind cover according to the server. Due to latency the other guy must have still seen you at that point (impossible to confirm without a clip showing his perspective though).

I quite like this solution since the shooting remains mostly responsive and satisfying even when playing on US servers but it's obvious that it places high latency players at a disadvantage, that's pretty much guaranteed to happen no matter what your solution is though. The correct thing to do is to allow people to select server or at least give local servers a much heavier weighting than other factors in the matchmaking IMO.
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Server selection would be great, I'd be happy to wait longer if it meant local connections. 343 obviously have their reasons for not implementing it though so I can't see it happening.

I still love the game despite the connection issues, 343 have knocked it out of the park after Halo 4. I love the competitiveness of Arena even though I'm an okay to bad player. When the outcome of a match is negatively affected by the enemy team being thousands of miles closer to the chosen server it sours the experience though.
 
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Diablohead

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Madness said:
Fuck, I remember completely screwing up my lone wolves rank going for the spartan laser double kill. My cousin got it first day, and I spent the next two days going for it. I was an achievement whore then. Finally when I said Fuck it, it happened on the same day twice, on snowbound and high ground. Think I still have both in my file share.

I think in at 1730/1750, only missing two campaign scoring achievements. And the reason I stopped is because I had to do the level Cortana and I hated it so much I just left the game and never wanted to play it again. So I have Cortana and the final level campaign scoring left to do. Now I don't care about achievements.
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the spartan laser double kill was so silly after only weeks before release bungie said stuff about how achievements should not effect multiplayer matches by asking for X with Y weapon or forcing players to play differently.

And then they ask you to double kill with the laser... in MP.

I remember games where people would agree to stand in line and shoot each other for the cheevo, I would just ruin the party with a grenade or back smack and cause rage and quits all round. Also a very similar thing with annex boosting in gears of war, I would throw a nade in the ring and fuck everyone up.
 
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Forerunner

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I've definitely been having a lot more instances of lag lately, nothing yet to make the game unplayable, but it has been increasingly annoying. The worst one was on Eden, I grabbed the rockets and right when I go to shoot I teleport behind a wall, committed suicide and betrayed a teammate. It's weird because I've never had issues with lag in this game.
 
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pieface

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I really can't understand why they don't just let us choose which data centre we connect too. Even if it means waiting 3-5 minutes to find players, I'd much rather a lag free experience.

Just give us the option. By default set the datacentre to "any", and then let us tune it if we want to? Simple?
 
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Apollo Cree

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pieface said:
I really can't understand why they don't just let us choose which data centre we connect too. Even if it means waiting 3-5 minutes to find players, I'd much rather a lag free experience.

Just give us the option. By default set the datacentre to "any", and then let us tune it if we want to? Simple?
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I assumed that's because it creates bad juju with their ranking system.
 
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Trup1aya

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pieface said:
I really can't understand why they don't just let us choose which data centre we connect too. Even if it means waiting 3-5 minutes to find players, I'd much rather a lag free experience.

Just give us the option. By default set the datacentre to "any", and then let us tune it if we want to? Simple?
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This is a weird one.

They quickly responded to critism over JiP in BtB, recognizing that it was an unpleasant experience for people forced to join.

But they won't recognize that playing across the pond is an even more unpleasant experience, and it spans all game modes.

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I assumed that's because it creates bad juju with their ranking system.
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I assumed so too. And there is an argument that it's tough to compare the skill gap between an American and someone in the UK if they aren't playing against the same people or each other...

But you don't get an accurate skill comparison anyway because UK players are constantly at a disadvantage.
 
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Strider

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Halo fans are the kings of worrying about player population yet also sending "uninstall noob" whenever their teammate has a bad game lol

Had some rough matches so far today :/
 
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nahlakhai

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Made out like a bandit with various coupons and gift cards for the GoW bundle at Target. Also picked up Halo 5.

Is there a thread or an FAQ of all the new stuff compared to previous Halos? I don't understand all this REQ system stuff.
 
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VincentMatts

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nahlakhai said:
Made out like a bandit with various coupons and gift cards for the GoW bundle at Target. Also picked up Halo 5.

Is there a thread or an FAQ of all the new stuff compared to previous Halos? I don't understand all this REQ system stuff.
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REQ system is super easy. Weapons and vehicles cards are only good for warzone. Armor, helmets, weapon skins and the rest is good for everything.
 
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Strider

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E92 M3 said:
If MM does its job, that shouldn't happen lol
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Not really.

If you get matched up against players of similar skill yet play poorly or significantly worse than usual you're gonna have a rough time.

Your player skill is constantly changing even as often as game to game. This is why blowouts happen even when MM works correctly.
 
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Strider

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Really there's just only so much the MM system can do.

It can't account for people playing at a level significantly higher or significantly lower than usual, whether or not players communicate with each other or for someone quitting or going afk (until after the event when a ban occurs). It can't account for other things either such as internet disconnects or whatever the case may be.

All it can really do is put players of similar rank and location together. Hopefully 343 can alleviate some of the communication problems by matching parties vs parties and solo players vs other solo players but how can they honestly expect to fix the rest?

All in all the ranking system does a really good job of finding close matches though from what I've seen. This is based on my 400ish arena matches so far.
 
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