I agree in principle but watchOS 4 really does utilize the form factor here. It displays useful UI elements and not necessarily words.
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Bloomberg: Apple Watch 3 w/LTE this year
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I think the long long game means that you won't need an iPhone at all. I don't know if apple wants to actually do that but if apps could be housed on the device itself, texts and emails and phone calls and whatnot can all be received on the watch itself. Then why can't you use it with an android phone or and whatnot. It just completely untethers the need for ever having the phone on you.
Apple Watch + AirPods could become pretty powerful. But that's all speculation depending on what apple does with the software but that's the end game.
Because all those circular smartwatches are selling so well.
I see Apple Watch several times a day on all kinds of people. I rarely see round smartwatches in public, and usually only on the "tech enthusiast" type, because they're so bulky.
Apple Watch has sold over 30 million. Android wear which had many circular devices has sold only a fraction of what Apple Watch does.
I feel like it's been a while since Apple has flexed their muscle on carriers like this. Unless I'm missing some obvious recent moment.
Technosteve
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can they make the ceramic watch cheaper? Kthx
Auron_Kale
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I honestly prefer the Fenix 3HR (especially if you can find it at a discounted price) as many of the features on the Fenix 5 overlap with the 3HR, but it's definitely the size of an Oreo (and about as thick) on your wrist. That said, the price point for the Fenix 5 makes me hesitant to upgrade to it from my Vivoactive HR when the Apple watch is currently cheaper than the Fenix.
Also, there are features that Garmin have managed to integrate into the newer watches but can't be bothered to patch them into older products - one being able to track elliptical workouts (gotta use the Cardio workout workaround) - which is quite annoying.
SuperPac
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It's more likely they'll keep it at all-day battery life as it is now while adding features. My battery's usually 70% when I stick my Series 2 on the charger at night.
Zeyphersan
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Same. If Im going somewhere for an overnight trip I dont even bring a watch charger. If I turn it all the way off while I sleep I can stretch it to two nights, which Ive done before
What is this all about?
The Fenix 3HR was great but felt just a bit too big to wear to work. The five hits the sweet spot for me and i love that i can wear it to the office or a week long backpacking trip and it doesn't feel out of place. It is without a doubt one of my favorite pieces of tech.
Incitemaybe
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I'd be interested if you could remove the band from the watch and keep it in your pocket like a tiny phone. I don't like things on my wrists.
The_Inquisitor
Member
I'm a Fenix owner as well(5). If you're like me and you realized you use your smart watch for fitness and notifications it's far superior to the Apple Watch.
Patrick Young
Member
New form factor? I just bought another MVMT watch, but if the new Apple Watch is round I will consider a purchase.
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? Its literally the most valuable watch line in the world already. They sold shit tons
NinjaMouse
Member
Eh, no interest in buying a data plan for a watch. If I'm being completely honest, my first gen Apple Watch is probably the last one I'll buy.
Do you live in a major metropolitan area? I live in downtown Chicago and it's hard to point out someone not wearing one.
It's just hard to imagine a situation where you'd really need LTE on the Watch separately. Who all wants to go out with their Watch on but not have their phone with them? You're never going to replace a smartphone completely with a 1.5" screen on your wrist - there is just not enough screen real estate.
The only scenarios where this makes any sense are like, running without your phone on you, but the Watch Series 2 already does that with built-in GPS.
The only scenarios where this makes any sense are like, running without your phone on you, but the Watch Series 2 already does that with built-in GPS.
brianjones
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yeah I'm still not really seeing the big appeal of this
the watch + AirPods would be the ideal way to exercise but thats a lot of money just for that
siri to send texts is something I've never used or wanted
yeah this.. can't see how doing stuff on a watch would ever be preferable
Zeyphersan
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Apple sells 30 million watches -> the product is dead cancel it
Right, but I dont want to go running with my phone since thats unnecessary with the watch, but I also dont want to potentially miss any important/emergency texts or calls. Thats where the LTE comes in. I can see myself honestly just not bringing my phone on quick trips around town or if Im going to like the beach or something. Theres a lot of utility here
By new form factor I hope they mean a radical slimming of the device like going from the iPod mini to the iPod nano. The thing just looks too bulgeous for my liking. Having gotten a slim fitness tracker recently I realised I could get used to wearing a watch again. A watch that can operate on it's own and be used for streaming music and Apple Pay would be a bloody handy thing to have.
clearly a personal anecdote greater than the numbers... right?
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Man, having a data plan for a watch seems excessive
For this kind of situation I can only hope it's included in the cost of the phone plan. I can't imagine paying extra for these kinds of super-situational uses.
Zeyphersan
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They probably haven't sold it because no one even wants to buy it. Otherwise the smart thing would have been to make some money off of it when they stopped using it. But of course they have no value
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To be fair, it looks fat in pics but quite flat on every wrist I've seen it on in person
Want to sell it?
What's the purpose of a round one? Having a round smart device just looks so silly to me and I can't really think of a practical application for it.
Except its not. The fact that you can get notifications that are linked with your phone without your phone is pretty powerful IMO. If anything, it will most likely be an extension of the iMessage system in MacOS except with apps. Also, LTE capability will probably mean you can get the watch with or without much like the iPad today which honestly, suits the Apple audience today just fine.
Chittagong
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Woo cellular has been my biggest hope. That way I could leave my phone behind and be more social, while remaining connected
It looks better as a piece of jewelry. I mean let's be honest here, the "practical application" of Apple Watch is already fairly slim, most people are using them as glorified Fitbits, checking the time and an occasional SMS. You don't need to optimize the screen for that, long text on the UI is already poor design. But whether or not you are constantly glancing at it, it sits on your wrist all day so it should reflect your aesthetics.
You think a round smart device looks silly and that's the fundamental difference. The point is that people don't want to look like they strapped a smart device to their wrist (which is what the current Apple watch looks like). Many people want it to look more like a piece of jewelry, like a normal watch.
Yeah which is why all the round Android smartwatches are doing so well right?
Pointless arguement since square android watches are doing ng hot either
Its not the roundness that is holding it back
Apples and oranges. You're comparing across ecosystems with much more fundamental differences than just form factor.
While Android watches aren't as pervasive as Apple Watches, among Android smartwatches, circular ones have been far more popular. To the point where most manufacturers have stopped bothering with non-circular ones.
kraspkibble
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cool but unnecessary in my opinion. i'm not going to buy a watch if i don't have an iphone. i'd prefer the watch connected through the iphone to to get data.
You can. I wouldn't want to do so, but you absolutely canz