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Brie Larson Isn’t Letting Her ‘Captain Marvel’ Press Tour Be ‘Overwhelmingly’ White and Male

llien

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Dunki said:
reminds me a bit of this diversity meeting of the Huff Post a few years ago^^

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So diverse, chuckle.


Seriously, people, with only 16% of american's being black (and roughly the same number of Latinos) why shouldn't it be "overwhelmingly" white (not sure about "overwhelmingly male", I was told journalists/editors are overwhelmingly female)

mckmas8808 said:
movie like Black Panther getting nominated for movie of the year
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Wow, didn't know some where triggered over it.
Quite liked the movie, protagonist in particular.

pimentel1 said:
Consider me a manbaby too. I’m sick and tired of the left using “white” in a negative way to cater to their voters.
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But that's a reference to Oscar so goish "Oscar so white" by Will Smith.
 
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JareBear: Remastered

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Barnabot said:
I don' know, MilkyJoe MilkyJoe . Maybe It's "damage control" in action. Some people might be fighting an uphill battle in the press just to save this movie.
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Honestly I am kind of shocked that it has gotten to the point that the movie needs saving to begin with. I didn't think her comment would have such a profound effect on the film's odds of success.

Maybe it will at least serve as a lesson learned for blockbuster leads moving forward?
 
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NickFire

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mckmas8808 said:
Do you have a link to that report?
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Sorry, closed that browser page while ago. Just Google something like Brie Larson feminist movie. There's lot of reports.

Edit - https://www.dailywire.com/news/43946/captain-marvel-star-gets-political-trolls-hit-james-barrett

"Larson also told Entertainment Tonight that she pushed the studio to make "Captain Marvel" a "big feminist movie." "I had a meeting with Marvel and what we discussed is they wanted to make a big feminist movie," she said. "

That's one of several.
 
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rivv3r

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Rumor going around they bastardized her origin (always had powers) and gender swapped Mar-Vell (source of her powers originally.)
 
JimiNutz

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I'd be very surprised if this movie bombs simply because seeing it appears to be an important prerequisite viewing for Endgame.
 
rivv3r

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NutJobJim said:
I'd be very surprised if this movie bombs simply because seeing it appears to be an important prerequisite viewing for Endgame.
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There is zero chance of it bombing. The only question is how much money is Disney going to spend buying out theaters for 'little girls to see it' like they did with another Marvel movie.
 
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NutJobJim said:
I'd be very surprised if this movie bombs simply because seeing it appears to be an important prerequisite viewing for Endgame.
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Haha. There's always an excuse.

It'll bomb because she hurt the niche white male comic fans!

It'll be a success because feminists peer pressure everyone into watching it!
 
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sol_bad

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JCK75 said:
It's not being triggered and "Freaking Out" to just be tired of our entertainment being endlessly and needlessly politicized, the US is absolutely insane with two sides constantly at each others throats and all we want is to get away from all of that madness and enjoy a good action movie. I was kind of excited for Captain Marvel but I'm now not going to give it my money. I can quietly back away and let the fact the money that was going towards it now is staying in my wallet do the speaking for me. They can keep trying to twist this into Radical/Sexist/Alt-Right trolling but after enough movies bomb they will be forced to at least consider leaving the SJW politics out of it.
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You say you don't want politics to affect movies but here you are letting your political view point affect the film. It's not even about the film but about the person in the film.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Barnabot said:
Don't forget they are also manbabe. Everything to fit the narrative.
I'm not hyped for Endgame anymore . Now I'm hyped for this movie instead: Avengers -The Narrative Wars.
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ssolitare said:
HURT

It's a super niche amount of people.

So basically all of the manbabies and trolls rottentomatoe bombing.




My bad I read it wrong.
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:pie_roffles::pie_invert:

It really is predictable. I am questioning more your narrative of painting the picture as "white", as if PoC can't have similar disgust in IdPol propaganda or sexism. Who you foolin'?
 
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JareBear: Remastered

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Barnabot said:
Don't forget they are also manbabe. Everything to fit the narrative.
I'm not hyped for Endgame anymore . Now I'm hyped for this movie instead: Avengers -The Narrative Wars.
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Ahhhh cmon my dude, let’s not pour gasoline over the entire MCU just yet!

This is just one actresses misguided idealism, or whatever. I still feel MCU is pretty tame, overall, SJW wise

#KeepAvengersGreat!
 
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EviLore

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Super niche and irrelevant, hence the 100 million shaved off opening weekend estimates, Brie Larson's damage control fluffer interview, and now Rotten Tomatoes scrambling to change their entire site policies when the audience interest metric dropped to 27% for this one film.
 
Zangiefy360

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The greater mystery is why people want to see these formulaic, by the numbers movies in the first place? Brie Larson's comments are bizarre and clearly come from someone that has serious mental problems, but it'd be nice to see a Marvel movie bomb simply because people are tired of them.
 
JareBear: Remastered

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Zangiefy360 said:
The greater mystery is why people want to see these formulaic, by the numbers movies in the first place? Brie Larson's comments are bizarre and clearly come from someone that has serious mental problems, but it'd be nice to see a Marvel movie bomb simply because people are tired of them.
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Personally, I am tired of origin stories, which I guess this isn’t competely. Like, if I have to watch the Wayne parents get gunned down one more time I’m gonna riot.

I like how Spider Man: Homecoming just starts with Peter as Spider-Man. No expanantion needed.

Sorry if off topic here

I’m part of the problem as I’ll see any MCU film regardless, and probably every DCEU film
 
Paracelsus

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EviLore said:
Super niche and irrelevant, hence the 100 million shaved off opening weekend estimates, Brie Larson's damage control fluffer interview, and now Rotten Tomatoes scrambling to change their entire site policies when the audience interest metric dropped to 27% for this one film.
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The movie is gonna do well, be it by free will or they're gonna air lift dummies in the seats, Disney has a certain image to protect and god forbid anything goes wrong. As soon as Solo bombed they went in full damage control and let the SW talk die down for a while.
However, nothing is gonna help them once the main cast is retired after Endgame, because Iron Man is Tony Stark, and Hulk is Bruce Banner. If they think they can just keep going with their Poochie replacements from the current comic books they have another guess coming.
 
mckmas8808

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MilkyJoe said:
How is it anything but free feedback on how you are marketing your movie?
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Because it's probably not accurate.
JareBear said:
Honestly I am kind of shocked that it has gotten to the point that the movie needs saving to begin with. I didn't think her comment would have such a profound effect on the film's odds of success.

Maybe it will at least serve as a lesson learned for blockbuster leads moving forward?
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If I were you, I wouldn't believe that it needed saving. Don't let these guys fool you into believing that nonsense.

rivv3r said:
There is zero chance of it bombing. The only question is how much money is Disney going to spend buying out theaters for 'little girls to see it' like they did with another Marvel movie.
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BOOM! LOLOL!!!! :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

There's always an excuse. Let me guess which movie that was.......
 
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EviLore said:
Super niche and irrelevant, hence the 100 million shaved off opening weekend estimates, Brie Larson's damage control fluffer interview, and now Rotten Tomatoes scrambling to change their entire site policies when the audience interest metric dropped to 27% for this one film.
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I've never felt more irrelevant. I'm like a fucking ghost, y'all
 
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Vicetrailia

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EviLore said:
Super niche and irrelevant, hence the 100 million shaved off opening weekend estimates, Brie Larson's damage control fluffer interview, and now Rotten Tomatoes scrambling to change their entire site policies when the audience interest metric dropped to 27% for this one film.
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She brushed it off in the interview, and let's not push a false narrative that the unnofficial long-range tracking is something to go by. The long-range tracking was based on guesses rather than hard data, they also only reported the ceiling of the prediction (it was 110 - 160). The 80-120 is the official.

It's long-range for a reason.

DeepEnigma said:
:pie_roffles::pie_invert:

It really is predictable. I am questioning more your narrative of painting the picture as "white", as if PoC can't have similar disgust in IdPol propaganda or sexism. Who you foolin'?
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It was made to be about hating white males, so they became the persona non grata.
 
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mckmas8808

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ssolitare said:
She brushed it off in the interview, and let's not push a false narrative that the unnofficial long-range tracking is something to go by. The long-range tracking was based on guesses rather than hard data, they also only reported the ceiling of the prediction (it was 110 - 160). The 80-120 is the official.

It's long-range for a reason.
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Plus only 2 solo Marvel origin story movies ever grossed over $100M worldwide. That's Black Panther ($202M) and Ironman ($102M). No way a Captian Marvel movie was going to make $160 million. Nobody has ever heard of this character as of 3 years ago.
 
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DeafTourette

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rivv3r said:
There is zero chance of it bombing. The only question is how much money is Disney going to spend buying out theaters for 'little girls to see it' like they did with another Marvel movie.
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Disney actually didn't do that. Actors and general people did that.

For reasons that should be obvious.
 
JCK75

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sol_bad said:
You say you don't want politics to affect movies but here you are letting your political view point affect the film. It's not even about the film but about the person in the film.
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I'm not giving someone going around talking shit my money.... period
If the cast brings politics into it, I'm out.
 
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mckmas8808 said:
This is the best action to take, since what she said has nothing to do with the movie.
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Actually it does. She has said, and I gave you a link as requested, that they had a goal to make a feminist movie. That is unquestionably the interjection of politics into a movie IMO.

Also, IMO using metrics of any origin movie other than Black Panther to gauge success misses a really big factor. This movie is dropping after being teased at the end of part 1, a mere couple months before part 2. That is a massive incentive for every fan of the MCU to see this movie. It is literally the set up to the conclusion of the entire franchise to date.
 
Fnord

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mckmas8808 said:
I apologize for that. I got mixed up in two conversations on this page when responding to Barnabot Barnabot



And yet it didn't win Picture of the Year. If you think it was a token....fine. But what's unfair is that no one ever says that same crap for movies that feature mainly white men. Things only seem to be "tokens" when it involves people of color, women, or LGBT people. It's bull crap too.

- Was "War Horse" (2011) (Produced and Directed by Steven Spielberg) really Best Picture worthy?
- Was "The Theory of Everything" (2014) really Best Picture worthy?
- Was "The Revenant" (2015) really Best Picture worthy?
- Was "Dunkirk" (2017) really Best Picture worthy?
- Was "The Post" (2018) (Directed by Steven Spielberg) really Best Picture worthy?
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Were any of those films from a genre that the academy generally ignores (at best)? But to answer more broadly, yes, there have been other examples of "token" films put up for awards for reasons other than their quality. Dances with Wolves, a white savior film no less, didn't belong on the same stage as Goodfellas, for instance.
 
Dacon

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mckmas8808 said:
Plus only 2 solo Marvel origin story movies ever grossed over $100M worldwide. That's Black Panther ($202M) and Ironman ($102M). No way a Captian Marvel movie was going to make $160 million. Nobody has ever heard of this character as of 3 years ago.
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You mean outside of comic fans who've had to deal with marvel pushing her on us in various ways in the last 10 years. Marvel has done everything to turn Carol Danvers into their version of Wonder Woman.

Also, if they were gonna make a Captain Marvel movie, they shoulda made it about Monica Rambeau, the only Captain Marvel that was any good. I'm surprised they didnt tbh, since she's black and they wanna make more diverse films.
 
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Yeah, Civil War was a load of crap as a comic event.
And writers these days are so bereft of creativity (and want comics to be dark and edgy and adult-oriented, unlike what they use to be - thanks Watchmen!) that they doubled down with that shit with Civil War II - which they also used as one of their million attempts to make Captain Marvel relevant.
 
DeepEnigma

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fantomena said:
Haha, Marvel movies are a lot about politics.

Cap: Civil War was literally all about politics and morality.
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You damn right it was, they even had cognitive programming where in the very beginning, Captain America called the M4s, AR-15s. That was clearly done on purpose due to the political tension at the time with gun ownership.

That one line stuck out like a sore thumb and I knew it was intentionally put in there and not a slip-up.
 
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DeepEnigma said:
You damn right it was, they even had cognitive programming where in the very beginning, Captain America called the M4s, AR-15s. That was clearly done on purpose due to the political tension at the time with gun ownership.

That one line stuck out like a sore thumb and I knew it was intentionally put in there and not a slip-up.
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What line? Don't remember it. Can I find the scene on YT?
 
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DeepEnigma

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fantomena said:
What line? Don't remember it. Can I find the scene on YT?
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I'll take a look if I can find it was in the very beginning where they came rolling in, and Captain America was radioing in to the others with what he saw, and he mentioned they were combatants with AR-15s but they were fully automatic M4s, and I knew they said AR-15 on purpose.
 
DeafTourette

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DeepEnigma said:
I'll take a look if I can find it was in the very beginning where they came rolling in, and Captain America was radioing in to the others with what he saw, and he mentioned they were combatants with AR-15s but they were fully automatic M4s, and I knew they said AR-15 on purpose.
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I wouldn't have even thought that.

If the gun didn't like up to the line spoken, that hints at a disconnect between the prop department and the spoken dialogue. Or that the AR-15 doesn't look as menacing as the M4 so they went with the M4 and kept the line as is.
 
DeepEnigma

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DeafTourette said:
I wouldn't have even thought that.

If the gun didn't like up to the line spoken, that hints at a disconnect between the prop department and the spoken dialogue. Or that the AR-15 doesn't look as menacing as the M4 so they went with the M4 and kept the line as is.
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Nah, the whole Hollywood is just being ignorant falls flat in the last decade with big films. They hire weapons experts now, especially in the last decade to make sure continuity is done right.

The M4 and AR-15 look exactly the same you will never tell the difference to the naked eye on the ejection port side, I say that because the fire rate or safety select is the dead giveaway on the inside of the rifle.

The difference between an AR-15 and an M4 is the bolt and carrier for fully automatic or semi-automatic. The AR-15 is the civilian use semi-automatic, the M4 is military use fully automatic.

Captain America is the product of the military establishment, he knows the difference. The writers knew what they were doing. ;)
 
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EviLore

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Having weapons experts on-hand doesn't preclude major errors from making it into a film. Andy Stumpf on Joe Rogan recently pointed out that the bolt is locked back with an empty mag on this gun right before the big border firefight in Sicario:

 
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