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[Chaos Theory]

if this is true, it means if MS decided to shut down the durango server at one point in the future, all our games will be useless.

its like i cant go back and play my old xbox 1 now since its offline only.

this is very stupid. i am not gonna support the company that require this.

its like i am basically renting my games from MS for 60$ till they shut down the server

fuck if Xbox live was under maintenance, it means i cant go and play either. lolol hell with that

i am glad at least Sony isnt forcing this. and if some third party company wants to do this with PS4, then sure as hell i wont buy that fucking game

 

[TCRS]

Anybody have the link to the sushi post??? I cant possibly read all of this looking for it...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=52767612#post52767612

Yesterday I lost my connection out of the blue. If I had the 720 I wouldn't have been able to play and would have bored myself to death. Fuck this shit, I am more than happy with the PS4 so far.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Mentioning this for the third time. He started this whole mess with 3 to 4 tweets that weren't directed at anyone. His friend didn't start a discussion with him till later on. That's why his "I'm just trolling a friend" defense seems weak to some of us.

 

[Jarmel]

Well yeah it does, if he was serious it makes the story only slightly more news worthy. What will be will be and some guy (Aaron green berg doesn't even know, bit weird?) mouthing off on twitter is such a non event.

If this is the way MS is going then yeah I have to echo 'deal with it' what exactly is all this discussion going to achieve, it's just another 'not buying 720 thread' and we've had plenty of those lately based on rumour and nothing else.

It's pretty much impossible to prove whether he was trolling or being an asshole. What is certain is that he's a dumbass. He should know better in regards to the usage of Twitter and how sarcasm is pretty much impossible over the internet. His attitude towards customers fits in line with the 'always-on' policy by Microsoft. Even if he was joking about the city, his ridiculous and idiotic analogies are still worthy of criticism.

 

[Dead Man]

Doesn't really matter either way. Even if it was a joke, he should have known better. He is now the posterboy for Microsoft's policy for this.

LOL, pretty much.

 

[Jacksonlee]

Yeah we've already established he wasn't trolling in the end, what are you talking about?

i think he's talking about the whole sense of Xbox being always online being a Rumor, one that keeps getting repeated and raised over dozens of websites.


at this point, it's hard not to talk about it

 

[mckmas8808]

Good to know at least some sites are making this known. LOL, locking his Twitter account... I bet he wishes the internet wasn't always online now.

LOL!

 

[Miles X]

It's pretty much impossible to prove whether he was trolling or being an asshole. What is certain is that he's a dumbass. He should know better in regards to the usage of Twitter and how sarcasm is pretty much impossible over the internet. His attitude towards customers fits in line with the 'always-on' policy by Microsoft. Even if he was joking about the city, his ridiculous and idiotic analogies are still worthy of criticism.

Yeah he is an idiot I agree, whether joking or serious or whatever, he shouldn't have done that and I doubt MS are happy with him.

 

[Iacobellis]

I thought Microsoft literally owns Polygon?

They did invest money in it.

 

[Demon Ice]

Jesus Christ, this idiotic picture has been posted in this thread so many times. Congrats on missing the fact that MW3 had dedicated servers back in. Hmm, I wonder why? And I wonder what the other ~1500 members of that group that the picture omits were doing.

 

[shinra-bansho]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/micros...he-drama-around-an-always-online-xbox-6406464

Oh didn't see it.
Added to list...

• Amaebi.net: 次世代Xboxは常時オンライン接続が必要？　MS幹部「それが私たちが生きている世界だろう。我慢してくれ」
• 3DJuegos: Próxima Xbox: Un creativo de Microsoft defiende la obligación on-line. "La electricidad también se va"
• CNET: Xbox tweets hint at 'always on' future
• CNET AU: Xbox's Adam Orth doesn't get 'always on' concerns
• CNET UK: Microsoft exec can't see the problem with always online Xbox
• CVG: Microsoft creative director speaks in favour of 'always online'
• Destructoid: Microsoft man on always-online consoles: 'Deal with it'
• Develop: Microsoft exec: I don't get the drama around always-on
• Digital Spy: Microsoft creative director on always-on connections: 'Deal with it'
• Eurogamer: Microsoft creative director dismisses "drama" around always-online consoles
• Eurogamer Portugal: Diretor Criativo dos Microsoft Studios defende a ligação constante à Internet
• Eurogamer Sweden: Microsoft-anställd bemöter kritik kring ständig uppkoppling
• Game Informer: More Sources Say Next Xbox Will Require Always-On Internet Connection
• Game Revolution: Microsoft Creative Director On Always-On Xbox 720: "Deal With It"
• Gameplanet: Got a problem with always-on? "Deal with it" – Microsoft Game Studios creative director
• GameReactor Sweden: Microsoft om att kräva konstant uppkoppling
• GameSpot: Microsoft creative director doesn't get the 'drama' around an always-online Xbox
• Gematsu: Microsoft creative director defends ‘always online’
• Huffington Post: Microsoft's Adam Orth Fans Rumour That Next Xbox Requires 'Always On' Internet Connection
• IGN: Microsoft Creative Director on Always Online: 'Deal With It'
• Inside-Games.jp: 噂: 次世代Xboxはゲームプレイ時もインターネット接続が必須か、一定時間のネット切断でプレイが中断
• Jeux Video: Xbox 3 et connexion permanente : La grogne monte
• JustPushStart: Microsoft Employee Defends Rumored Always Online Feature On Xbox 720
• Joystiq: Microsoft Studios creative director dismisses 'always-on' console concerns
• JVN: Nouvelle Xbox : pas de jeu possible sans connexion internet ?
• Kotaku: Microsoft Creative Director 'Doesn't Get The Drama' Around Always-Online Consoles, Devices
• Mashable: Xbox Exec Tells Fans to 'Deal With' Always On Future
• Meristation: “Linchan” a un ejecutivo de Microsoft por apoyar la conexión permanente en Xbox
• Metro UK: Microsoft response to always-online Xbox rumours is #DealWithIt
• MTV UK: Microsoft Director In Twitter Row Over New Xbox
• NowGamer: Xbox 720 Always-On Practically Confirmed
• Official XBOX Magazine: Microsoft creative director defends always-online consoles, trades blows with BioWare
• Penny Arcade: Deal with it: Microsoft employee tweets aren’t hurting the next Xbox, silence is
• Power Unlimited: Microsoft Director Over 'Always Online' Consoles: Deal With It! (Dutch)
• Shack News: Microsoft director jumps into 'always-on connection' discussion
• Technobuffalo: Next Xbox Requires Internet? Microsoft’s Adam Orth Doesn’t Care
• TechRadar: Did Microsoft just confirm an always-online Xbox 720?
• The Consumerist: Next Xbox May Require Internet Access At All Times, Microsoft Creative Director Doesn’t See The Problem
• The Escapist: Microsoft Exec on Always Online Consoles: "Deal With it"
• The Verge: Microsoft creative director: 'I don't get the drama' over 'always-on' Xbox rumors
• TheSixthAxis: Microsoft Studio’s Creative Director Speaks About An Always-On Requirement
• Vandal: Microsoft Game Studios' director defends "always on" games (Spanish)
• vg247: Always-on: “Deal with it,” says Microsoft creative director

So yes, something of a conspicuous absence right now.

 

[Can Crusher]

Yeah we've already established he wasn't trolling in the end, what are you talking about?

I was trying to reply to this

The guy has already admitted he was trolling his friend hasn't he? lol @ the people making this bigger than it is.

But I fucked up.

 

[Wario64]

This is a screencap of his Twitter feed before he went private, about a hour after this thread was created

http://i2.minus.com/ikWhhKM09bWdC.png

 

[BlastProcessing]

I haven't heard about charging for exceeding data caps for at least a couple of years. I'm more than a little surprised to hear that it still happens. I can only assume AT&T haven't bothered propely investing in their infrastructure so choose to use an archaic and money grubbing approach to data caps.

Sorry to hear you're stuck in such a terrible position. For all my complaining about BT, when they say unlimited, it truly is unlimited with no throttling or additional charges.

It is true that AT&T sucks at infrastructure, but I dont think that is the reason they are archaic and money grubbing. That just comes naturally to them.

 

[Goodacre0081]

I can't imagine how pissed off I would be if I woke up to this shitstorm because somebody else royally fucked up.

if this turns out to be true then all it did was delay the inevitable. it would have been a bigger deal if they revealed this onstage at a press conference.

 

[uncledonnie]

Best thing is this basically guarantees the neXtBox reveal will be glorious. Meltdowns either way this goes.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Finally got around to reading through the last 40 pages since last night. This is a thread for the books, that's for sure.

You are too good Sunhi!

 

[UrbanRats]

Mentioning this for the third time. He started this whole mess with 3 to 4 tweets that weren't directed at anyone. His friend didn't start a discussion with him till later on. That's why his "I'm just trolling a friend" defense seems weak to some of us.

The trolling thing is just concerning the non-cities comment.

 

[Iacobellis]

If you follow the guy, you can still read his tweets. That's what I did before he went private.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Major Nelson getting a tad passive aggressive lol

I seriously can't imagine how angry people in MS must be to wake up to this dumbshit's mess.

 

[Miles X]

Best thing is this basically guarantees the neXtBox reveal will be glorious. Meltdowns either way this goes.

What will be interesting is to see if they announce it live on stage (first time we hear boo's at E3 probably) but also if peoples opinions change if MS show some incredible games.

 

[louiedog]

It's like that in many places in the US. The problem is the US is freaking HUGE. Where I use to live I had 3 choices. I had cable Internet at 60Mb/s for $49 a month.

Now I live in a less populated area and my only "FAST" choice is a 15Mb/s cable connection at freaking $69 a month. Ugh

Where my parents live the only reason they even have DSL is because the State stepped in and mandated that the Internet companies provide high speed service to their rural customers. A couple of years ago they were still stuck with dial-up. They have one ISP to choose from and the connection is 3 Mbps (but hitting that is rare). It also cuts out often. They'll sometimes have no Internet access for a few days. Every time I visit them it's down for an hour or two or sometimes more. There is no wireless data coverage.

Yes, it's rural, but they're within a couple of hours drive of two of the largest cities in the country, not a remote village in Alaska or something. The infrastructure just isn't there in the US yet for this kind of thing to be as feasible as some pretend that it is.

 

[Az]

Guys, it's XBOX ION

 

[cyberheater]

if this is true, it means if MS decided to shut down the durango server at one point in the future, all our games will be useless.

its like i cant go back and play my old xbox 1 now since its offline only.

this is very stupid. i am not gonna support the company that require this.

its like i am basically renting my games from MS for 60$ till they shut down the server

fuck if Xbox live was under maintenance, it means i cant go and play either. lolol hell with that

I'm quite pro MS but your points are valid and on reflection I feel the same. If MS do this then I simply will not buy their console.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

Lot's to do today. @CallofDuty Championship and all. And all.

-major Nelson

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/320201375462080512

Larry isn't really the one to comment on this... Phil Spencer would be more likely. He's been pretty active on Twitter lately as well. I expect we'll hear something from him.

 

[cyberheater]

Guys, it's XBOX ION

ION = Internet ON

 

[Jarmel]

if this turns out to be true then all it did was delay the inevitable. it would have been a bigger deal if they revealed this onstage at a press conference.

It was coming either way but 'sugar helps the medicine go down' as they say. The wording in the conference might have made it more tolerable for the average individual. Instead gamers are seeing "Why would you live there?" and an upfront contempt for them. It's the worst possible way to handle an already unlikable situation.

 

[Tripp Daily]

this idiotic picture has been posted in this thread so many times. Congrats on missing the fact that MW3 had dedicated servers back in. Hmm, I wonder why? And I wonder what the other ~750 members of that group that the picture omits were doing.

1558-48 != ~750 and you could figure up a percentage (39%) and extend it to the rest of the community as a very rough estimate.

The point of the picture is to point out how people scream and yell about things they want, but when the time comes to make a stand they instead fall right back in-line. Is it the correct way to run a business? IMO, no. However I think it's an interesting point and helps you to look at the ones in this forum saying they will not buy the new xbox because of this guys comments in a different light.

 

[Dysun]

Oh my god, so full of win

 

[Miles X]

I'm quite pro MS but your points are valid and on reflection I feel the same. If MS do this then I simply will not buy their console.

When the time came to shut down servers, the 720 will essentially be dead by then. MS would have nothing to lose by patching the system so it allows offline gaming. I'm sure they would clarify either way.

Still though, we're already going to see that with PSN+

 

[Goodacre0081]

I'm quite pro MS but your points are valid and on reflection I feel the same. If MS do this then I simply will not buy their console.

switching consoles isn't the hard part. it's getting your friends to do the same.

 

[Doffen]

If you follow the guy, you can still read his tweets. That's what I did before he went private.

He's still accepting followers. He has grown 100 followers since last time I checked.

 

[triggaz]

Is Polygon the only one not to say anything yet?

Gies, at least try to look neutral.

Giant Bomb has reported either.

 

[LTWood12]

You had me laughing out loud with tears in my eyes. Thanks for that.

 

[pelican]

No matter what I think this highlights Microsoft's error in holding back the console unveil. If they had followed Sony's lead then situations like this wouldn't be occurring.

 

[kingocfs]

Larry isn't really the one to comment on this... Phil Spencer would be more likely. He's been pretty active on Twitter lately as well. I expect we'll hear something from him.

Why would any MS brass comment on what is basically just speculation on rumors? We don't even know when this thing is being revealed yet. This is all just free publicity.

 

[AuthenticM]

I thought Microsoft literally owns Polygon?

No, Polygon is owned by Vox Media. Though I have no idea if there is collusion between Vox and Microsoft.

 

[davepoobond]

Yes, it's rural, but they're within a couple of hours drive of two of the largest cities in the country, not a remote village in Alaska or something. The infrastructure just isn't there in the US yet for this kind of thing to be as feasible as some pretend that it is.

not only that, but the speeds in certain areas are just absolutely terrible to begin with

 

[criesofthepast]

This idiot has a nice paying job while thousands of recent university grads are stuck working at IKEA. Nice.

Are we going to see Twitter 101 in future marketing classes?

 

[pelican]

Giant Bomb has reported either.

But Giant Bomb really isn't a proper video game site. No one uses them for news.

 

[Tripp Daily]

Larry isn't really the one to comment on this... Phil Spencer would be more likely. He's been pretty active on Twitter lately as well. I expect we'll hear something from him.

What is phil spencer's twitter handle?

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Lot's to do today. @CallofDuty Championship and all. And all.

-major Nelson

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/320201375462080512

Ignorance is bliss?

 

[x-Lundz-x]

@adam_orth:

It's XBON, not XBOFF.

 

[Doffen]

switching consoles isn't the hard part. it's getting your friends to do the same.

It also depends on what exclusives you like. There are users out there who enjoy Halo, Forza, Gears, Fable and Dance Central.

Spoiler

I do enjoy Dance Central

 

[pelican]

Ignorance is bliss?

Probably.

 

[Thorgal]

http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/04/xbox-720-no-internet-connection-no-game-time

another one joins the fun.

i think by the end of today every single gaming news site will have this reported.

 

[cyberheater]

switching consoles isn't the hard part. it's getting your friends to do the same.

I don't play online so don't have that issue.

 

[Raxus]

Oh man, E3 this year is going to be glorious. Deal With It is going to haunt them all week.

 

[Shadders]

 

[rrs]

It's like that in many places in the US. The problem is the US is freaking HUGE. Where I use to live I had 3 choices. I had cable Internet at 60Mb/s for $49 a month.

Now I live in a less populated area and my only "FAST" choice is a 15Mb/s cable connection at freaking $69 a month. Ugh

Here it's either $30 3/vomit overloaded DSL, or $60 questionable 20/something Comcast