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FRIDAYTON: God abandons PS4 as The Great Flood wipes out Sony HQ [Up: Reveal in OP]
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hahahaha I'm dying. Someone please link me to that post
What about this one?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56157072&postcount=353
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57151550&postcount=157
He has a good track record.
Thanks
"Agenda" lol
I have only reported what i have heard from a few big studios, saying that the PS4 dev framework wasn't the ultimate perfect environment Sony's PR wanted us to believe in the months after the console reveal through their fancy platform's architect interviews. And that they were in rush mode and far from being ready (although it was far worse for Microsoft). For the first point, it's of course subjective as it's pertaining to what those studios managed to draw from the dev kit and SDK for their games. And with hindsight, now that E3 has passed, their info was accurate considering that some of their titles weren't running on PS4 but on PC, or got lackluster framerate. I think i have said it too much
But it's pretty common for a new console, and the dev kit that studios dispose of in July are obviously delivering far better performances than those prior to E3.
Meh, who didn't know Keit4 was a rampaging fanboy/shill before this thread?
lol, this threads really help to see some gaffers real feelings towards console wars. Keit4 was already obvious though
It also makes that Eurogamer spain journalist look like an attention whore. Lol at him not understanding why his tweet has made some internet gaming forums go mad. Of course he did know.
It also makes that Eurogamer spain journalist look like an attention whore. Lol at him not understanding why his tweet has made some internet gaming forums go mad. Of course he did know.
Tingfrmnongpradu
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What a thread title to wake up to! Rofl! Never change, GAF. <3
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
"Agenda" lol
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But it's pretty common for a new console, and the dev kit that dev dispose in July are obviously delivering far better performances than those prior to E3.
Yes that was why it was ridiculous you were even saying this sorta stuff:
I planned to post a similar message but was grilled, again
I've heard the same things. But it also concerns to a lesser extent the PS4, which is far from being as smooth/ready, especially regarding dev kits, as the efficient public relation push that was deployed since February leads enthusiast crowds to believe. I've been told than the two are even more late for a November launch than Nintendo and their Wii U, considering that Big N were themselves as i reported on several WUSTs in rush mode.
It's troubling, i hope they will launch fully fledged and major-issues-free systems come November.
Who doubted me again when i said one week ago (link), in front of a lot skeptics, that the situation at Sony isn't the dreamy bed of roses that their PR campaign push gamers to believe ?
Very first dev-kit isn't delivering perfect framerate finished experience games without problems over half a year before launch? Think we can file that under
gaming_noob
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This is awesome!
Sweet jesus
CadetMahoney
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this is just a call out thread so ppl can say "MS fanboys where getting all happy and now they're bitter and crying salty tears". . . or something like that. lol.
Good thread for picking who you should add on your ignore list :lol
Facundo_Lopez
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OMG this thread is gold.
Yep. He just wanted some reactions, and reactions is what he got.
Although to be fair, most people on here were pretty cool headed and sarcastic
Brad Grenz
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Obviously the mods engineered this ruse as a honeypot to catch all the crazies still not banned.
Yes that was why it was ridiculous you were even saying this sorta stuff:
Very first dev-kit isn't delivering perfect framerate finished experience games without problems over half a year before launch? Think we can file that under
For the first point, it's the feedback of a developer from a very big studio that isn't particularly closer to Nintendo than with the other two manufacturers (therefore no bias), i have only reported it, and when you see the Xbox One drama following its announcement and the streak of late plans changes, he was half right. The other half (for Sony) isn't confirmed for the moment, but it's not because 3 or 4 sources are saying they are right on track that it's what every studio, worldwide, observe, there could have been a delay in dev kit supply for them, an unsuitable development/programing strategy from my sources with the PS4 dev kit, etc. explaining why they have said me that.
For your second-point, those weren't "very first dev kit", and having sub 10 fps for a next gen game just a few weeks prior to E3 isn't an issue of "delivering perfect framerate".
Several websites described in their post-E3 assessments the framerate stutters, lag, etc, of a noticeable amount of PS4 floor demos. If the dev framework was so ideal, we wouldn't see such widespread issues. It will certainly improve but i'm just saying that info from legit sources (the same that gave me very precise data, for example of the type of memory and amount inside the Wii U, or dev kit details, months before their confirmation, so i believe them) were reporting that the PS4 situation wasn't so perfect.
No agenda here, please refrain to see evil all around
I have relayed tons of lukewarm technical info on Nintendo one year ago (for example the fact that devs haven't seen the real OS until very late or couldn't implement Miiverse, hinting the operating system problems we have seen at launch and revealing the absence of Miiverse integration in third-party software months before it was witnessed), and i am mostly a PC gamer so i don't have any interest in fabricating a lie on this PS4 info. You just to need, as always, to consider the context.
This thread, man... This thread. A word of advice for all the bros coming out of the woodwork to enjoy the downfall of Sony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vj2DBnbxNU
CambriaRising
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Wow! Before I went to bed, this thread was like 4 pages max. Now? Holy crap!
Just funny how some people were waiting or anticipating how this bad news would be it for Sony. Seriously? Some people on GAF are just outright waiting for the chance for some PS4 news?
This isn't even a whiff but some people ran with it.
Yeah, we all know Sony has been getting a TON of positive reaction from the PS4. But maybe, just maybe, they're warranted since people think they deserve it?
What's next? Pulling random stuff from the 'net just to have some negative PS4 threads?
Just funny how some people were waiting or anticipating how this bad news would be it for Sony. Seriously? Some people on GAF are just outright waiting for the chance for some PS4 news?
This isn't even a whiff but some people ran with it.
Yeah, we all know Sony has been getting a TON of positive reaction from the PS4. But maybe, just maybe, they're warranted since people think they deserve it?
What's next? Pulling random stuff from the 'net just to have some negative PS4 threads?
Metalmurphy
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I have only reported what i have heard from a few big studios, saying that the PS4 dev framework wasn't the ultimate perfect environment Sony's PR wanted us to believe in the months after the console reveal through their fancy platform's architect interviews. And that they were in rush mode and far from being ready (although it was far worse for Microsoft). For the first point, it's of course subjective as it's pertaining to what those studios managed to draw from the dev kit and SDK for their games. And with hindsight, now that E3 has passed, their info was accurate considering that some of their titles weren't running on PS4 but on PC, or got lackluster framerate. I think i have said it too much
But it's pretty common for a new console, and the dev kit that studios dispose of in July are obviously delivering far better performances than those prior to E3.
Sonys PR? Most of the praise came from third party developers.
Lackluster framerate on games still in development? Shocking.
Running on PCs? which ones? There were plenty of games running on PS4 at E3.
Also how exactly are they in rush mode when they're lending out devkits like crazy?
Also trying to claim you were "right" on the development front because of an adjustment to the shipping estimates is the most ridiculous thing i've heard.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
For the first point, it's the feedback of a developer from a very big studio that isn't particularly closer to Nintendo than with the other two manufacturers (therefore no bias), i have only reported it, and when you see the Xbox One drama following its announcement and the streak of late plans changes, he was half right. The other half (for Sony) isn't confirmed for the moment, but it's not because 3 or 4 sources are saying they are right on track that it's what every studio, worldwide, observe, there could have been a delay in dev kit supply for them, an unsuitable development/programing strategy from my sources with the PS4 dev kit, etc. explaining why they have said me that.
For your second-point, those weren't "very first dev kit", and having sub 10 fps for a next gen game just a few weeks prior to E3 isn't an issue of "delivering perfect framerate".
Several websites described in their post-E3 assessments the framerate stutters, lag, etc, of a noticeable amount of PS4 floor demos. If the dev framework was so ideal, we wouldn't see such widespread issues. It will certainly improve but i'm just saying that info from legit sources (the same that gave me very precise data, for example of the type of memory and amount inside the Wii U, or dev kit details, months before their confirmation, so i believe them) were reporting that the PS4 situation wasn't so perfect.
No agenda here, please refrain to see evil all around
The problem is, if you have indeed been around the block a while as you claim, then you'd know this happens for every new console launch software and devkit roll out ever. There isn't some sinister "Sony's bed of roses PR" blowback to snipe at, this is game development 100 times over. Framrate issues in April-May-June? Fine. Expected. Been that way really since 3D game dev began. Framerate issues in September/October? Now uh ohs.
Also while a developer en masse may not be bias, an individual often is. Just because they work in the industry doesn't mean they have a lobotomy and the PRO-SKUB part of their brains is scooped away. It sounds like your sources very often seem to have an axe to grind, and you're the guy they go to for particular reasons. Slipping in random "might even be more rushed than WiiU!" asides is particularly why.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
IdeaMan has been full of shit since the WUST threads.
I don't think I've seen a single "insider-inspired" post of his pan out, so hardly surprising to see that record continue
I don't think I've seen a single "insider-inspired" post of his pan out, so hardly surprising to see that record continue
Stupid shit as usual.
IdeaMan has been full of shit since the WUST threads.
I don't think I've seen a single "insider-inspired" post of his pan out, so hardly surprising to see that record continue
Yup, been reading his posts for a long time now.
It's either obvious single-sentence tidbits written down in 5 long paragraphs saying basically nothing, or blatant exaggerations of the truth.
Guy seemed to enjoy the fame in the Wii-U threads though, but then again Nintendo fans were still gullible and hopeful for a real next-gen console back then.
Loved the reactions to veredeus offering free ps4s think that was around 26 but not sure ...
Like i have demonstrated, when you list all the info i have revealed on Wii U, you can't seriously think my sources have some kind of pro-Nintendo bias, between the OS lateness, Miiverse rush, lack of gamepad in the V1 dev kit, two DRC implementation very late and only physically with an additional plug in the dev kit (so no two gamepad games for a while), etc etc. Now, of course, you should always take this kind of info with a grain of salt, it's not the total truth.
On your first point, indeed. I'm not saying it isn't normal. It's just that after having browsed countless of PS4 threads, neat interviews of the new geek icon Mark Cerny, and the praising words of selected developers (whereas several of their games were perfectible and far from being the technical extravaganza they claimed they will be), i got the feeling that the PS4 wasn't precisely the normal "work-in-progress" platform with the usual issues here and there, at least in the eyes of too enthusiastic gamers, but on the contrary the perfect machine, the culmination of 40 years of videogame history with the ideal architecture, the ideal dev framework, etc, which isn't the case.
FreeMufasa
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Admit it, eurogamer had u guys shook as hell tho :lol
Nope.
IdeaMan has been full of shit since the WUST threads.
I don't think I've seen a single "insider-inspired" post of his pan out, so hardly surprising to see that record continue
Don't let me link the two or three assessments of facts i got right for the nth time, it would derail this thread
Don't let me link the two or three assessments of facts i got right for the nth time, it would derail this thread
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
I'm pretty sure you have more to admit than anyone here.
Not really, no. Which reminds me, you're one of the guys I mentioned earlier :lol
Meus Renaissance
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Best thread title change I've seen here on GAF. The Mod needs to be applauded
Well, in many ways Amir was right
Well, in many ways Amir was right
Best reaction gif to all this.
Metalmurphy
Member
Don't let me link the two or three assessments of facts i got right for the nth time, it would derail this thread
If you were gonna link the ones already linked, you didn't get anything right. At least, nothing that was proven yet.
BobTheFork
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With a tale that will soon be classic
About a man U already know
No prostitute he, but the mayor of your game
Cerny Control (Are U ready?)
Aaah, Cerny Control, oh
Aaah, Cerny Control, oh
About a man U already know
No prostitute he, but the mayor of your game
Cerny Control (Are U ready?)
Aaah, Cerny Control, oh
Aaah, Cerny Control, oh
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
So you felt compelled to piss on the party for the sake of console war parity and balance with a history of 2/8 non-Nintendo threads to your name. This is the meta-game of GAF, and its pretty hard to wriggle away from once your rep sets like a fine jelly.
Admit it, you have been found out.
TheContact
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BruceWayneIII
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And in many ways he was wrong, also he was foaming at the mouth ...... not exactly an example of restraint.
Then again he was found out in other cases as well.
You have to read again the assessments then, where i am also upfront on the things that weren't confirmed or a still waiting for a confirmation. And when you combine all that, my sources were correct for 90% of the info. Hell, even for the little things, too precise to be made up, like the obligation to bring their builds unto SD prior to E3 2012 then on their proprietary discs at E3 2013, were confirmed weeks later.
I am not taking pride of all this, i have just reported the info. My point is that these sources were very accurate before, i don't know why suddenly they would tell me a lie on the Xbone and PS4. But as always, you have to take into consideration the context, perhaps they have messed big time with their PS4 dev kit, in other word, it's their fault. But it's still interesting to know this.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Your sources are your ass. Your ass is lying to you, you are lying to yourself and others.
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