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[Rudius]

Mute the video and let this sound track play in the background. Thank me later.



In the regular old television GT7 is a bit better than GT Sport, but comparing the VR modes of both we see the kind of jump in quality of past console generations.

Apart from a increase in field of view (more demanding in itself) and a dramatic higher resolution, we get better textures, more objects on screen, better (and more) trees, grass, distant scenery, more and better shadows, superior reflections, more spectators and improved lighting.

On top of all that we now have the full game in VR, with 20 cars on screen vs just 2, time of day cycles during races, dynamic weather and rain.

 

[Skifi28]

I believe you.

 

[Kev Kev]

Racing in VR is probably the most fun I've had playing a video game. It feels so authentic, to the point that it makes the driving easier. I couldn't imagine going back to flatscreen and I wonder how I ever played it like that to begin with. And I'm not even a fan of racing games.

 

[SpokkX]

It really is

GT7 is now the best racing experience I ever had - by far.

The killer app for PSVR2

 

[Tomi]

Psvr2 probably best vr on market right now

 

[Airbus Jr]

Agreed

 

[nemiroff]

It's a generational leap for PSVR obviously.

 

[RoboFu]

You are telling me the more powerful console with a headset that’s built for more efficient rendering produces a better image!??

 

[Rudius]

You are telling me the more powerful console with a headset that’s built for more efficient rendering produces a better image!??

Completely misunderstood the situation.

The flat version of GT7 has a comparatively much smaller jump versus flat GT Sport.

The VR versions of the same games have a large discrepancy in quality.

Both are benefiting from going from PS4 to PS5, but only the VR modes are a vast generational leap, comparable to what we used to get in previous transitions.

 

[RoboFu]

Completely misunderstood the situation.

The flat version of GT7 has a comparatively much smaller jump versus flat GT Sport.

The VR versions of the same games have a large discrepancy in quality.

Both are benefiting from going from PS4 to PS5, but only the VR modes are a vast generational leap, comparable to what we used to get in previous transitions.

No I understood. The psvr2 has eye tracking and foveated rendering to greatly increase performance and free resources.

If psvr had eye tracking and foveated rendering they could have done much more in terms of optimization.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Some of those GT Sport environments look worse than even GT5/6 at that res. Never tried it when I had a PSVR so didn't know it was as downgraded for VR, kinda glad I didn't as flat GT Sport is still a looker with Pro mode & HDR. Its no wonder GT7 seems a generational jump in comparison

 

[8BiTw0LF]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I can see already some of the quotes at the end of the year.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

I really wish I knew someone who had this set up just to try it once.

 

[DenchDeckard]

 

[Lucifers Beard]

It’s very good indeed. But I want Wreckfest, Burnout, Wipeout and Twisted Metal in VR now that I’ve had that experience. Burnout would be absolutely fucking mental.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I really wish I knew someone who had this set up just to try it once.

Someone in my family immediately went and bought the racing seat, frame and a G29 racing wheel after playing it in VR for a few minutes. Looking forward to giving that a go!

 

[Cr1ptkeeper]

The only thing holding it back is the ghosting from the use of reprojection.
Otherwise it's amazing!

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

GT7, the next F1 game, Ace Combat (hopefully) and Pavlov 2 or a game that changes that kinda experience with more polish, wi do wonders for PSVR2.

Just to name a few.

 

[systemr123]

No I understood. The psvr2 has eye tracking and foveated rendering to greatly increase performance and free resources.

If psvr had eye tracking and foveated rendering they could have done much more in terms of optimization.

Except it didn't and it doesn't. Downplaying an awesome amazing achievement in tech "failed".

 

[XXL]

The PSVR 2 update apparently improved the clarity in GT7 (and Horizon COTM)

Edit: It did

 

[DaGwaphics]

GT7 looking really nice there. The dark muddiness of the graphics is what ruined PSVR for me I think, nice to see that PSVR2 is a good step up.

 

[ClosBSAS]

Psvr2 probably best vr on market right now

i dunno man. alyx is the killer vr app for the moment. if alyx comes to psv2 with haptics and shit, then it can probably dethrone the pc version. even though pc version has great resolution and graphics.

 

[PanzerCute]

It’s very good indeed. But I want Wreckfest, Burnout, Wipeout and Twisted Metal in VR now that I’ve had that experience. Burnout would be absolutely fucking mental.

Take it with a grain of salt obviously, but there is a persistent rumor about a Twisted Metal reboot that would be fully playable on PSVR2.

 

[mckmas8808]

Racing in VR is probably the most fun I've had playing a video game. It feels so authentic, to the point that it makes the driving easier. I couldn't imagine going back to flatscreen and I wonder how I ever played it like that to begin with. And I'm not even a fan of racing games.

I spent 2.5 hours last night doing license test in GT7 in PSVR2 and LOVED IT!!! I never liked those license tests. It's why I stopped buying GT games with 5. But it's crazy how making a racing game more authentic, makes you want to keep trying those 12 second tests over and over until you get the Gold.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's absolutely a game changer. Can never go back to 2D racing.

 

[mckmas8808]

i dunno man. alyx is the killer vr app for the moment. if alyx comes to psv2 with haptics and shit, then it can probably dethrone the pc version. even though pc version has great resolution and graphics.

There can be more than one killer app.

 

[DeepEnigma]

There can be more than one killer app.

Yep. GT7 is a killer app.

 

[ljubomir]

I mean, they were released in different generations...

 

[brian0057]

The only gaming genre that works great in VR turns out to work great in VR.
Will the wonder never cease?

 

[K' Dash]

new PS hardware runs decently on the most recent console iteration?

page kotaku immediately!

 

[Minsc]

I mean, they were released in different generations...

GT7 is still a PS4 game right? And it's more than just that because GT Sport besides the graphics looking way worse is just a shell of the flat game, where GT7 is not missing anything and the entire game is playable on the headset.

You could say RE4 and RE5 were released in different generations too, but most people would say RE4 is the better experience despite being older.

 

[Rudius]

I spent 2.5 hours last night doing license test in GT7 in PSVR2 and LOVED IT!!! I never liked those license tests. It's why I stopped buying GT games with 5. But it's crazy how making a racing game more authentic, makes you want to keep trying those 12 second tests over and over until you get the Gold.

The fast loading helps a lot with retrying those tests.

 

[Rudius]

I mean, they were released in different generations...

Compare the flat versions of GT7 on PS4 and PS5. Better, but similar. In VR it is a totally different story.

 

[Romulus]

The only gaming genre that works great in VR turns out to work great in VR.
Will the wonder never cease?

Fps, horror, and tactical sims work really well now. We have dual stick controls so you lose nothing, you just gain.

 

[cyberheater]

Think it’s time to sell some stuff to jump into this.

 

[Minsc]

Fps, horror, and tactical sims work really well now. We have dual stick controls so you lose nothing, you just gain.

People seemed to really enjoy Skyrim and RE4 on VR, as well as Walkabout Mini Golf.

Rhythm games work great too.

Pinball in VR should be amazing when it releases eventually.

I dunno, the list of genres that don't work in VR is way way smaller than those that do!

 

[Romulus]

People seemed to really enjoy Skyrim and RE4 on VR, as well as Walkabout Mini Golf.

Rhythm games work great too.

Pinball in VR should be amazing when it releases eventually.

I dunno, the list of genres that don't work in VR is way way smaller than those that do!

I think people get bothered because it does both ends of the spectrum better than non VR gaming. Rhythm/casual games are much improved in VR, then hard-core sims are vastly superior also. Now fps games and most everything else are seeing advantages.

 

[kruis]

I got the PSVR2 last week and have been playing a few games the past couple of days. The biggest wow moment was in GT7, but not while racing, but in one of the showrooms in a mode where you're sitting inside the car looking out. I was looking at the inside of the car, looking at the stuff happening around me and then I looked down and saw no one sitting where I was sitting. No body, no legs, no arms and I felt such a confusion because I FELT like I was sitting there, I was waving my arms but didn't see them waving. That was the weirdest body-brain disconnect ever.

 

[I'm nobody]

I wish you could add smells to vr

 

[KuraiShidosha]

Am I crazy or does the night driving look better on PS4? More depth, contrast and color to everything. Obviously it goes without saying less resolution and detail but I mean general color grading and lighting look nicer to my eye.

 

[sendit]

No I understood. The psvr2 has eye tracking and foveated rendering to greatly increase performance and free resources.

If psvr had eye tracking and foveated rendering they could have done much more in terms of optimization.

Agreed. Imagine if the NES was equipped with a 4090. Im not impressed here.

 

[Crayon]

I would love to have seen this pushed in a bundle. And I mean pushed out ahead of horizon. I have a theory that that wasn't going to fly because it doesn't use the controllers.

There's a ton of games for this thing and I keep going back to gt7 every time lol. It's just so great. If you've gone back in time 25 years and ask me what GT would be like, I would have guessed it would be in vr. I would have assumed. Crazy that we just barely got there.

 

[Trilobit]

In the video GT Sport looks almost PS2-era. Crazy!

 

[Henry Panic]

The killer app for PSVR2

It's not even a killer app for the PS5.

i dunno man. alyx is the killer vr app for the moment.

You guys do know killer app means mass appeal and adoption of something as a result of the connected product or service?

 

[remember_spinal]

sony really should have been marketing the fuck out of gran turismo with VR

 

[rofif]

Completely misunderstood the situation.

The flat version of GT7 has a comparatively much smaller jump versus flat GT Sport.

The VR versions of the same games have a large discrepancy in quality.

Both are benefiting from going from PS4 to PS5, but only the VR modes are a vast generational leap, comparable to what we used to get in previous transitions.

It's not that the flat version of gt7 got "small jump" to ps5 version.
It is that ps4 was too weak to display gt sport in vr properly

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's not even a killer app for the PS5.



You guys do know killer app means mass appeal and adoption of something as a result of the connected product or service?

 

[midnightAI]

It's not that the flat version of gt7 got "small jump" to ps5 version.
It is that ps4 was too weak to display gt sport in vr properly

correct, that and the fact the VR 'mode' was shoe-horned into the Sport unlike GT7 which had its VR implemented while the game was in development not after the fact.

I could pick out quite a few things in the OP video that arent strictly correct (eg. reflections when talking about the rear view mirror, which isnt a reflection, and textures when the real difference is clarity and resolution) but I get the point of the video.

 

[rofif]

correct, that and the fact the VR 'mode' was shoe-horned into the Sport unlike GT7 which had its VR implemented while the game was in development not after the fact.

I could pick out quite a few things in the OP video that arent strictly correct (eg. reflections when talking about the rear view mirror, which isnt a reflection, and textures when the real difference is clarity and resolution) but I get the point of the video.

And on another note - There are still ways to go in vr gaming. We have low "perceived" resolution, glare, chroma, hz, plenty of things to update upon... and 2d gaming is solved. going 1080p to 4k on gt7 is a huge difference but it is what it is. A car can look only so realistic already