DeaconKnowledge
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KeithFranklin said:
I'm pretty sure that's worldwide, not NA only.
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NPD Sales Results for December 2006
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I'm pretty sure that's worldwide, not NA only.
Frankfurter
Member
Square2005 said:
Yeah, NoA is giving next-gen to Microsoft, the company which probably had the worst console launch sales in the first two months ever. The "console war" isn't being decided in the first two months and certainly not by 500k more or less available consoles.
And btw. in terms of Europe: Gamecube bombed pretty hard in Europe and Nintendo themselves see with DS that you can have great sales in Europe if you do the right moves. So simply doing the same bullshit again as last gen would have been about the dumbest move possible.
FirstInHell
Banned
Frankfurter said:
If the PS3 had launched in Europe like the 360 did, their numbers would be just as bad as MS's numbers were.
JoshuaJSlone said:
They may have "beat" Sony and MS, but they are releasing 5 year old technology while their competitors are releasing cutting edge technology. When you look at it in this perspective, their supply issues are pretty embarrassing.
I was going to get a Wii during the holidays because it was the hot thing to get. I was unable to get one anywhere. Now that Christmas is over I could care less at this point. Anecdotal evidence I know, but Nintendo missed a big opportunity here.
Mana Knight
Banned
I think PSP has had a much better year than the DS, software wise IMO, but it's very disappointing to see PSP games not sell well. However, I pretty much know why they aren't selling. It's not really the price (for some it is, but people didn't seem upset about buying NFS Underground Rivals and a few others at launch, for $50), it has to do with firmware. Many people feel that they rather run homebrew crap (like roms and stuff) instead of buying the newest PSP games, so they stick to 1.5 firmware (when newer games force you to upgrade). Their seemed to be a huge downfall in PSP game sales ever since people were forced to upgrade their firmware. Many of those who only use their PSP for homebrew (I'm not talking about the small percentage who use Devhook), still own a few launch games that run off of 1.5. I remember hearing people hoping that SCEA wouldn't force a firmware upgrade on Greatest Hit games (for they can play them). Although I despise most homebrew, I feel Sony would be best off to not force people to upgrade their firmware (unless they want to use the new features for the PS3, like downloadable PS3 games). The way I see it, although people may be running stuff on their PSP Sony wouldn't want them too, at least they can still buy newer games (They may not buy many, but even if those people pick up 2-3 more games, that's a big help). The only other reason they should force an upgrade is to play games online (especially for beta testing).Fady K said:
Personally, I bought my PSP to play PSP games, which is why I always upgrade the firmware.
Christopher
Member
ok getting my PSP today so add "1" to those numbers <3. Oh and EB games have some of the nastiest "used" PSPs I've ever seen, but I suppose you get what you pay for, alas I guess I'll buy some screen protecters and all that jizz today.
Christopher
Member
ethelred said:
um I'm not buying a used one hence why I said the used ones looked nasty genius.
I know what I meant ;p
siamesedreamer
Banned
I went back to my Best Buy this afternoon and there were 75 PS3s sitting on the show floor. My guess would be that they sold around 7 or 8 since Thursday afternoon.
Again, this is in the affluent Atlanta suburb of Alpharetta.
Again, this is in the affluent Atlanta suburb of Alpharetta.
Square2005
Banned
and how many Wiis were available...?siamesedreamer said:
Wow, with the way everyone was saying Wii's were going I was expecting the system to do a million+.
For a handheald that's supposed to be dead PSP isn't that far behind DS. (i.e. stfu 1upyours).
And PS2 and 360 were the big suprises. The launch of two hyped new systems didn't flatten them.
For a handheald that's supposed to be dead PSP isn't that far behind DS. (i.e. stfu 1upyours).
And PS2 and 360 were the big suprises. The launch of two hyped new systems didn't flatten them.
FirstInHell
Banned
Saoh said:for real, CV PoR LTD
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rkenshin said:
That is not true. The TA-082 downgraded released late December opened most new PSPs and before that you could run homebrew using devhook.
I also don't believe the OP's point about forced upgrades stopping people from buying games. The latest custom firmware lets you run both 3.03 and 1.50 so you get the homebrew and could still play the latest retail games. Of course, most people I'm sure just pirate the games.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
FirstInHell said:
fake
It would seem that now that we don't have the full NPD numbers, increasingly, people are living on their little islands of fantasy. The PSP software discussions are quite interesting for the fact that most of the assertions by Striek et al are just plain wrong. But of course, no one can prove them wrong now.
siamesedreamer
Banned
Square2005 said:
I didn't check, but I have never seen one in any store ever. They didn't have any DSs, so its a good bet they didn't have any Wiis either.
AniHawk said:
Hell yeah it aint, when you're dealing with the behemoth that is Nintendo, its damn good enough. Were talking about handhelds here. Something Nintendos always been king of.
DS sold a lot better, PSP is defeated by it in every major region, by a wide margin in Japan as well. But hey, selling almost a million units in one month is far from dead. When its still expensive. When the DS is available and is more popular and cheaper. When two new consoles launch.
PSP aint got nothing on DS sales, but its no dead system.
*Hugs PSP <3 <3 <3
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
FirstInHell said:
Nintendo's had shortages with the DS, and that's what...11 year old technology? Yes, not having a particularly advanced hardware benefited their worldwide launch (a first with this kind of volume), but it's not like they can all of a sudden produce millions of them every week. The question is how many can be produced now without having to commit to overproducing them later. They can't open new factories and then just close them; systems would have to continue being made. Also Nintendo only makes so many different products, so they couldn't manage them quite like Sony could if things got out of hand. Right now Nintendo is probably at their highest capacity overall, both with the DS, Wii and GBA. I dont think its embarrassing at all.
LanceStern
Banned
PSP certainly isn't dead, but for gosh sakes does it's software do bad.
As far as having a better year than the Ds in terms of software, they both had great years
MGSPO, SOCOM 2, Killzone, Tekken, Ace Combat, Locoroco, MGSPO, Valkyre, Tales of the World, Daxter, GTA VCS
There was A LOT for PSP owners this year, and yet they barely pick up the titles
As far as having a better year than the Ds in terms of software, they both had great years
MGSPO, SOCOM 2, Killzone, Tekken, Ace Combat, Locoroco, MGSPO, Valkyre, Tales of the World, Daxter, GTA VCS
There was A LOT for PSP owners this year, and yet they barely pick up the titles
LanceStern
Banned
The NPD ban at first confused me as to why we were happy with their negotiations, but just like my moms old question:
"Can Vicki Please Order Rice?"
You just have to sit back and understand why they do what they do. And once you take a real hard look, you can understand and appreciate what's been given to you.
In other news we need to stop worrying about sales, and start worrying about our climate. The title says it all
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602197.html
I don't know, I'm mentally tired from MC
"Can Vicki Please Order Rice?"
You just have to sit back and understand why they do what they do. And once you take a real hard look, you can understand and appreciate what's been given to you.
In other news we need to stop worrying about sales, and start worrying about our climate. The title says it all
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602197.html
I don't know, I'm mentally tired from MC
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Considering December was 5 weeks and January is 4 weeks, each January week need only provide something like 1/8 the supply of a December week to beat the GCN's January 2002 number. If each January week can even supply 1/3 the units of the average December week, it should be about caught up with GCN's three month total. That said I have no clue how shipments of these past two weeks compare with December.Square2005 said:
Let us consider some lowball numbers. Say Nintendo can supply only 2 million Wii worlwide in the first 3 months of the year. Say only 1/3 of those go to North America. Say 85% of that supply goes to the US. Due to some being in transit, lack of 100% perfect tracking, and even lack of 100% sell-through, say only 80% of that amount is counted as sold by NPD. That would still work out to NPD numbers for January-March being something like 453K, significantly more than what GameCube's Q1 2002 numbers.