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NPD Sales Results for March 2014 [Up4: FFX/X-2 HD]
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Butts-a-plenty
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I dont think we look at it that way, before anyone with an Xbox could still get at least an average baseball game in 2k, now any baseball fan that wants a decent baseball game on current gen will have to go PS4 unless they want to go even worse and settle for RBI baseball. That is why I feel this Show will push hardware further than before
SwiftDeath
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Ah ok didn't see that. Still it's an impressive number given the install base and doesn't include digital XB1 sales, the majority of PC sales, and whatever 360 manages
I'm sure Respawn are happy, as are EA. It'll be the game to get with an XB1 for some time even if XB1 sales slow like they probably will
The Antitype
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Yep.
It would have been smarter to keep first party studios around and create tons of great content themselves, but they were stupid and culled their studios instead of building them last generation.
It depends on how much they want the crown. If they figure they can make enough money without being first place in the US, then they don't have to spend much.
We'll see what happens. It hasn't even been a year into the life-cycle yet. A lot can still happen.
Louis Cyphre
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When MGS4 came out Sony already dropped the price of the system a few times. Sony was also bleeding money from the PS3 hardware out of the gate and it took years before they started making a profit.
As for Titanfall you were making it sound like weak Titanfall sales were the reason for bundling the game and offering price drops.
It's almost become moot at this point because I don't think it's the exclusives that are pushing PS4 hardware sales right now.
Version 3.0
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I don't see any comments on the real race to watch: when will the 360 overtake the Wii? We thought it was going to happen last year, but it keeps disappearing into the distance like a mirage in the desert. At the difference this month, it'll still take another 5 months to happen.
Are you sure it includes bundled TF? It seems like it wouldn't because those were digital copies of the game. Plus I thought bundles usually don't count regardless.
Quadraphonic
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Well, Microsoft got themselves into a fucked up position last gen.
Because they got to #1 in America, they shifted their entire company structure to something that relied on that.
Of the three companies, they're the worst with 1st-party studios and self-made exclusives. They depend on 3rd-party sales more than any other console. AND additionally, every single major franchise of theirs is a "Me too" game that has a parallel on the PS4.
Additionally, their bread & butter profit is from Xbox Live Gold. But now with PS+ charging AND being the more popular device, it's only a matter of time until those XBL numbers dwindle significantly as people see no need to pay for both, especially as their friends are all on PS4.
So less 3rd-party sales (As most people will eventually get a PS4, and multi-plats are better there), less 1st-party games, and less XBL Gold subscribers = a LOT less sales.
iamvin22
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my bad. i thought this was in response to PS4.
Dragonborn
Member
Yup, if all they have to reveal for this year is a remake of a 10 year old game and yet another Forza game, it's just not going to fly.
Didn't the PS3 sell more WW every single year except on it's release yet?
I thought we went over this. ntkrnl was working for Microsoft.
at this point everyone at the xbox division should have their twitter accounts removed.
Please understand
Just wanted to mention that it might be possible that Microsoft has a Scanned Based Trading relationship with some of its retailer partners. In those cases the manufacturer still actually owns the product even when it is at the store up until the consumer actually purchases the product. More and more retailers are doing this as it drives inventory costs off of their books onto their suppliers books. Wal-Mart for example was one of the first and largest companies to do this. I have no specific knowledge of how Microsoft does its contracts with its retail partners but if they are a scan based trading supplier then saying they 'shipped' units does not mean they 'sold' those units.
It would've probably happened by now if Microsoft still cared about the 360.
what they should do is cut the price to $99 and get rid of the app pay wall so people buy into the xbox brand instead of Apple TV or that Amazon fire thing.
Obviously they're not going to do that though because they want people to buy an xbo and not a 360.
moltonasty
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Ok, so ps4 is the obvious winner. But xbone sales are not bad at all, and are clearly way above wii u. Ms will stay in 2nd place this gen and will make money. I don't see what the big deal is and why it's so shocking? I mean, ps4 has had more hype and positive press since feb 2013, nothing is going to stop that. The real loser here is Nintendo as far as I can see. Their presence is totally non existent on this npd yet everyone is focused on how bad ms is doing. A huh...
possibility. My brother had to order from amazon because the bestbuy and 2 gamestop around us didn't have any in stock.
It could just be my area where the ps4 stock is limited.
SwiftDeath
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It is fairly interesting. I suspect 360 will pass Wii's LTD at some point
Any idea what PS2's is/was in the US? And what's Wii LTD for comparison?
We could say the same about Japan hating home gaming consoles.
RealityPales
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I agree. It's like saying Pepsi is dead because Coke holds more market share. Nonsense. They're both doing well. One just so happens to be doing better.
Papacheeks
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I love the fact that people are glazing over the real issue MS has with their box in different countries outside of US,UK and Germany.
The Big reason Xbox:One is only in 13 territories is because of Localization, and TV features for other countries.
Holly shit how do you Freaking miss that in the article by Time.
Hence why they are not shipping to Japan till July. And the rest of the Markets they targeted are in September.
http://news.xbox.com/2014/03/xbox-one-new-markets
This is why there is such a huge gap, the way Kinect works with Voice for Different languages is a bitch to program especially on a system running 3 different OS's.
The fact IGN is talking about this on Twitter is idiotic as they have not figured this out either.
Holly Shit Journalists need to understand the medium before writing an article.
The regions they launched in were ones where Localization was not as big of a hassle. Hence UK, Germany, and so on.
Hard to believe there are still morons in the industry who get paid to write uneducated articles about a medium where the information is available to them.
Pure Ignorance!
The Big reason Xbox:One is only in 13 territories is because of Localization, and TV features for other countries.
Holly shit how do you Freaking miss that in the article by Time.
Hence why they are not shipping to Japan till July. And the rest of the Markets they targeted are in September.
http://news.xbox.com/2014/03/xbox-one-new-markets
This is why there is such a huge gap, the way Kinect works with Voice for Different languages is a bitch to program especially on a system running 3 different OS's.
The fact IGN is talking about this on Twitter is idiotic as they have not figured this out either.
Holly Shit Journalists need to understand the medium before writing an article.
The regions they launched in were ones where Localization was not as big of a hassle. Hence UK, Germany, and so on.
Hard to believe there are still morons in the industry who get paid to write uneducated articles about a medium where the information is available to them.
Pure Ignorance!
He wants to ride the pwnee?
If that's the threshold of bad, then the Vita is doing pretty well also.
jesus fucking christ.....
at this point everyone at the xbox division should have their twitter accounts removed.
For those whose reading comprehension didn't go past the 2nd Grade, here is the Twitter conversation:
@WolfPackZXoxP3 said:
@XboxP3 said:
Now explain how that comment shouldn't have been posted. Or does every single word from MS have to be "We suck, our system is shit" or we'll have to endure your shitty "clever" remarks?
Louis Cyphre
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Those markets may not make much of a difference to that gap. Outside of the UK and the USA and perhaps Australia the XBox isn't that impactful compared to the Playstation brand is it?
So selling over 300,000 is just as bad as selling 10,000?
CitizenCope
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I understand this. I'm making a horrible attempt at explaining Titanfall isn't this horrible game that people are returning after one night with it. This coming from somebody who's never played it.
SwiftDeath
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Hmm but weren't some of the original 21 countries that didn't make it into the 13, countries that official languages were already being supported by XB1 in other countries?
Sweden or Switzerland I think is an example of one
Plus isn't New Zealand missing certain voice commands like "Xbox On"?
RyanMcCaffrey just posted this TIME article on twitter.
http://time.com/67954/5-reasons-the...les-figures-dont-mean-what-you-think-they-do/
Imma go with Colin on this one.
Colin is one of the few at IGN that calls it like he sees it. If you listen to Podcast Beyond he is far from a fanboy looking for a job at Sony. He criticizes them more than anyone.
Confused Cheeseburger
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"case closed"
moltonasty
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Not sure what you mean by that, considering that wii u is still selling better than vita. Vita is on a whole other level of bomba at this point.
Still love it tho. It means life.
Chobel
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NPD doesn't say Titanfall sold +1m (Source Zefah) so creamsugar must be including the bundle sales.
Uno Venova
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I was definitely shocked, even though MGS4 didn't change anything in a long run it did put the PS3 at the top for consoles, and everything stabilized after that, this time the XB1 didn't get close with a perceived system seller. The January drop was already pretty bad and I'm wondering what could stop it from dropping to similar lower levels with nothing else coming out for months.
So in other words PS4 is a 9.0 while Xbone is a 8.9?
I don't disagree with you.
I was thinking worldwide numbers in an npd thread. My mistake.
Portugeezer
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I listen to both Podcast Beyond and Podcast Unlocked now and then, I agree with you, even Greg is critical to Sony.
Ryan is a plain fanboy who spins everything, which I dislike to see on a big site like IGN. I hope MS hire him so it would at least make some sense.
ReignofSparrows
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"But you could also argue Microsoft selling 5 million Xbox One units at that higher price point is as much an achievement as Sony selling 7 million PS4 units at its lower one."
I can't even.
I can't even.
Uno Venova
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WWE Network/Netflix
Chobel
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PS4 has no games.
speculawyer
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Well . . . Despite all the gloom and doom it is worth noting that xbone is still doing better than the WiiU.
OldKingDoran
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I said god damn
the 360 version came out in April. I would be amazed if it had any effect on people's purchasing decision considering they barely acknowledged it and didn't even show a single screenshot until release.
PreyingShark
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I feel dumber after reading the article than I did before I read it. I... I really have nothing to add. I agree with you; most of those arguments suck.
TheLostBigBoss
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That's why I love Collin.
Calls it like he sees it and is very articulate in his reasoning. Even though he is a regular on Beyond
BEYOND!
Confused Cheeseburger
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Infamous, so much bf4 and trials but I'm losing interest in fusion and falling into a hearthstone addiction. Waiting for watch dogs.
Considering the manufacturing costs are estimated to be around $470, Best Buy is obviously paying MS less than $499 per console as they need to make a profit, and that's not factoring all the R&D, marketing, etc., yeah I don't think it's likely they are making a very slight profit... What they say all depends on how they calculate it.
No we were talking about if sale to retailers is meaningful. It's not. Companies don't thrive on revenue, they thrive on profit.
Yeah he is more fan, than fanboy. A real fan criticizes their favorite console, team, whatever it is because they want it to get better. Like what the hell does "very soon" mean for your damn update Sony!?
The people who wanted an XBO for Titanfall had already purchased an XBO for Titanfall. Everyone else who wanted Titanfall who had not purchased an XBO by March had already resigned themselves to getting it on PC or 360.
That's the beauty of the PS4 (and was also the killer feature of the PS1 and PS2): No one game is the system seller. You would get literally dozens of answers.
The Antitype
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Honestly, I've been using it for WWE Network and NHL Gamecenter since I finished AC4 and sold Killzone.