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[.Pennywise]

This is a poll only for those that don't like Souls-like combat, don't find it appealing, fair or entertaining.

As someone who is quite critical about "Souls-like combat", I'd like to know what others feel about it when not liking it.

As for myself, I find it way too clunky and the camera is something I find to be absurdly bad when taking on several enemies or flying enemies or speedy enemies or big bosses.

 

[ChoosableOne]

I can't enjoy other action games because of it.

 

[Arachnid]

It's too perfect of a system and it ruined other action games for me. Can't enjoy stuff like Bayonetta and DMC anymore.

EDIT: Holy shit @ the quick wizard above^^^

 

[drotahorror]

My main complaint about the combat from souls-like games would be hit feedback.

Would love to see some armor getting cracked, split, and flesh and bone being ripped.

 

[Danjin44]

 

[Daneel Elijah]

I voted other. For me the problem is that each game has to do something new to justify itself. Instead of just being better and more streamlined. Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 are what I meant by that. I loved them, but would prefer not to have to relearn things when they work. Demon's souls to Dark souls was better in my opinion. And it get harder each time because From know that we will cheese all encouters and made boss to punish those attempts . Boss like Sif in Dark Souls 1, who can be beaten first try by anyone, seems to not exist in later titles.
Disclaimer: Bloodborne is the game that made me buy a PS4 and is a masterpiece. My complaint is not about the game itself, it is just an example of what I am complaining about.

 

[Lupin3]

Slow and clunky. Love the concept, not a fan of the execution. Have only played DS2 and BB, though.

 

[Tg89]

 

[Mr Hyde]

My only gripe is the camera, especially when fighting large monsters or dragons. It's been an issue since Demon's Souls and I don't reckon From will ever sort it out. Everything else about the combat is fantastic. Love it so much.

 

[cireza]

Pretty great poll choices, well done.

I played pretty much all of these games and I am simply not blind to the limitations of the combat mechanics. I always found the lock on wasn't that great either. Also the combat system is really made for 1 on 1, so it becomes pretty annoying when the games throw at you 3+ enemies at once to raise the difficulty. It just doesn't work that well.

 

[ProgenitorCastle]

I'm close to entirely dismissing Souls games, in part because of my dissatisfaction with it's combat. The only sliver of hope for me enjoying Souls is if I get that magical "it clicked with me!" moment which hasn't happened yet

 

[TintoConCasera]

I'd love if combat and overall movement had more weight, and hitting an enemy had more feedback. That, and the awful camera.

Aside from that I think it's a good system.

 

[Supple]

Nothing. I don't like the "soulslike" meme genre that came from it though. Whenever I play a game that is labeled "soulslike" I never once think back to the Dark Souls games because none of them play like Dark Souls.

 

[Andrew Evenstar]

n00bz complaining it's too hard. as if it's even on cialis like levels. get gud.

 

[anothertech]

It ends when the game is over

 

[FoxMcChief]

What’s funny is I checked most, but still like the “genre”

 

[TheInfamousKira]

The elitist ass fanbase.


I'm kidding.

Aren't I?

*hides in Easy mode, they'll never find me there*

 

[T4keD0wN]

Shocked how well split the votes are, good job with the options op.
I usually like souls games despite disliking the combat itself, the only ones where i liked the combat was sekiro and fallen order. Might have something to do with them not being RPGs.
The thing i dislike the most by far is the existence of stamina, i find waiting for a bar to replenish boring. It feels like waiting for a loading screen lol. I absolutely love the "posture" though.

 

[Sentenza]

They just have to join the current century in terms of support past 60 fps and then me and From Software are golden, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I hate the overreliance on lock-on, makes group fights kind of a pain. Also, why not allow manual aiming for spells too?

 

[YukiOnna]

Group fights can really be a weak point and not in a good way. I think Elden Ring did a good job in creating techniques to help with dealing with multiple enemies for every class.

I'd love if combat and overall movement had more weight, and hitting an enemy had more feedback. That, and the awful camera.

Aside from that I think it's a good system.

While I don't think Sekiro would fall under the Dark Souls-Elden Ring category of combat, that was definitely one of the best parts about it. Hits felt like they had a lot of weight and the response was precise.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Feels like this elephant.

 

[Danjin44]

While I don't think Sekiro would fall under the Dark Souls-Elden Ring category of combat, that was definitely one of the best parts about it. Hits felt like they had a lot of weight and the response was precise.

In my opinion Sekiro has the best combat in all FROM games, it focus and polished.

 

[YukiOnna]

In my opinion Sekiro has the best combat in all FROM games, it focus and polished.

Desperately need Sekiro 2 or I'm going to explode. At least AC6 has that Director on it.

 

[raduque]

I don't like it because of how frame-perfect your timing on everything has to be.

 

[Filben]

 

[kyliethicc]

all of the above and bad controls

 

[TonyK]

Parry. I truly hate parry mechanics with all my soul.

 

[Zug]

To me the only game where combat feels better than Souls is Dragon's Dogma, but this one is on a league of it's own. Souls have better combat mechanics than most action RPGs.

 

[ReBurn]

People who like Souls combat pretty much hate themselves I think

 

[invisible_face]

I can get up and take a piss in the time it takes from when I press the attack button and when the hit lands.

 

[Yoboman]

I don't like the parry system Elden Ring. It should be a bit more forgiving like Bloodborne

 

[SafeOrAlone]

Sometimes it doesn’t feel that intuitive to sort and use items in combat but I don’t really have any suggestions to make it better.

Other than that I think it’s great. I mean, you can always strive to be at the level of Ninja Gaiden but no one expects that.

 

[Patrick S.]

Parrying is way too hard. I need to git more guder, because I just can’t pull it off

 

[analog_future]

It’s clunky/janky and looks really bad, animation-wise. It looks “game-y” as fuck without any semblance of realism.

It just doesn’t jive with me.

 

[Inspector Q]

These are some of the best games around, but if I had to choose one thing that always kinds of irks me then it's the lack of variation in melee attack combos. Using different combinations of light and heavy attacks should give us some more unique animations. You could use these animations to further differentiate one particular weapon from it's counterparts.

Taking Elden Ring as an example, so many times I would find a new weapon and try it out only to be somewhat disappointed in how basic all the attacks looked. The main thing differentiating the weapons were the Weapon Arts, but the actual Light/Heavy attacks were all fairly basic.

Of course, there are so many damn weapons in Elden Ring that it would probably be a bit of a task to give each one entirely unique combo based movesets, so....yeah.

 

[simpatico]

I'm close to entirely dismissing Souls games, in part because of my dissatisfaction with it's combat. The only sliver of hope for me enjoying Souls is if I get that magical "it clicked with me!" moment which hasn't happened yet

Just to inject some creativity to how you're playing. I played very slow and stiff at first too. Have some fun and see what you can do within the system. There's a lot of subtle depth that you won't access unless you really try to do some cool stuff. It's worth putting in the reps. Very gratifying.

 

[Woggleman]

The elitist ass fanbase.


I'm kidding.

Aren't I?

*hides in Easy mode, they'll never find me there*

This right here. I enjoy these games but the fanbase act like they are the only real video games around.

 

[The_Mike]

Cheesy combat to make it hard just for the sake of being hard.

 

[gaming_again]

Souls obsessive but I don’t like how it’s not set up for multiple enemies yet the games can be so ganky.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I'm slow to get anything done. Means I'm stuck in the same area with the same enemy over and over.
I like to move through levels. If I wanted to be stuck in the same area I might as well play the orginal Pac-Man.
Same Maze, Same monster, different high score.

 

[Evolved1]

I am so thoroughly sick of any combat that is built around fucking dodge-rolling.

 

[Wildebeest]

I enjoyed the 3 dark souls games, but I don't love boss fights in how the real enemy is often the camera and the action is a QTE sequence without prompts on screen and increasingly unforgiving timings.

 

[ProgenitorCastle]

Just to inject some creativity to how you're playing. I played very slow and stiff at first too. Have some fun and see what you can do within the system. There's a lot of subtle depth that you won't access unless you really try to do some cool stuff. It's worth putting in the reps. Very gratifying.

Thanks for the encouragement! Do you have a first Souls to recommend for beginners? I have Bloodborne, Sekiro, DS1 original and remastered

 

[The artful mincer]

It's simple but I don't mind that so much.

I don't like how your basically locked into 1 or 2 weapons for a single playthrough unless you want to go off and farm.

That and the consumble item system is pure trash.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I am honestly confused by others saying that action genre is not as good for them after souls. I actually find souls games very limiting after playing something like Ninja Gaiden. In souls games, the basic movement is slow and very limited relative to terrain. The souls games cannot even get the momentum of jumps and dodging right (excluding Bloodborne). The attacks are very basic with little variation (excluding Bloodborne). Worst of all the player character has the stamina of a retiree with how often they needs to catch their breath. Also, the whole losing your experience if you die twice without picking it back up is dumb as is the autosave system that makes it so that you need to replay the whole game to experience the good stuff again (excluding Dark Souls 2). A better checkpoint/save system and keeping your experience would just simplify the whole loop with less down time. Also, never understood the rarity of drops being so low in any game, but that is hardly unique.

With that said, I like to play with the truckload of weapons and magic spells the games provide and find parts of the crafted medieval fantasy adventure to be stimulating and some environments breath taking. I even enjoy how many enemies are so lax in the middle of a fight and do not swarm like many action games.

Thanks for the encouragement! Do you have a first Souls to recommend for beginners? I have Bloodborne, Sekiro, DS1 original and remastered

If you want variation in gameplay and like to play aggressively I recommend Bloodborne. If you like stealth and defensive rhythm games I recommend Sekiro. If you want to just explore and abuse archaic A.I. design and overpowered weapon/magic combinations I recommend Remastered. There is really no reason to play the original.

 

[Warablo]

Honestly a mix of all that. It's a decent system, but I can't believe they stretched that loop for so long just on i-frames and hitboxes.

I think Monster Hunter does it better.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

It's nice for 1vs1 fights.

The more enemies you add, the worse the combat gets.

Something like Dragon's Dogma combat is more appropriate for lots of enemies (also big enemies) at the same time.

 

[bbeach123]

Lack of skills/ability on hotkey .

skills/ability/spell using mana , and you HAD to drink mana potion , who tf does that in action game .

 

[brian0057]

People pretending it's its own genre.
Other than that, I like it.