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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online

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Corto

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Dynopia said:
Well yeah it does, if he was serious it makes the story only slightly more news worthy. What will be will be and some guy (Aaron green berg doesn't even know, bit weird?) mouthing off on twitter is such a non event.

If this is the way MS is going then yeah I have to echo 'deal with it' what exactly is all this discussion going to achieve, it's just another 'not buying 720 thread' and we've had plenty of those lately based on rumour and nothing else.
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So you're saying that his comments about the always-on requirement are without any value? You don't think it's newsworthy that a Microsoft employee, creative director on a next gen title is dismissive about those requirements heavily hinting at what the next MS console will entail in terms of that feature?
 
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Frankenstrat

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SunhiLegend said:
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Thread over.

Also, that list of articles is huuuge. Wonder how the guy feels now that everyone's picking it up :lol
 
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criesofthepast

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Beer Monkey said:
Is he the creative director?
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Shadders said:
He's probably just Creative Director at a Microsoft studio, and studios can have two or three Creative Directors. I think the seniority of his position at Microsoft may have been overstated.
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awa64 said:
Because they have several hundred "Creative Directors." It's a team-leader position, not an executive position.
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Can Crusher said:
I bet he just doesn't want to be associated.
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Wasn't sure. It was publicized that he was quite high on the food chain. Maybe not.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
he'll get a promotion before he gets fired.

he's not even the guy that made that ultimate decision to have xbox always-on! there's a whole team of people who think its a great idea! and they're probably saying the same shit


RustyNails said:
Has MS responded to this clusterfuck yet?
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they would have to acknowledge something about the next xbox if they did. they're not going to.
 
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Voice of Reason

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watership said:
SIGH. Because he's NOT "THE" creative director of MGS. I've been bitching about this bit of misinformation. He's 'a' creative director. They probably have many dozens of these guys at MGS. Some sites have been calling him an executive within Microsoft, which is also pretty far from the truth. It makes my brain hurt.
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To be honest, I'm glad they're calling him that. It makes this incident to look even worse, and it might actually cause an outrage.
 
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Sky Chief

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shandy706 said:
It's like that in many places in the US. The problem is the US is freaking HUGE. Where I use to live I had 3 choices. I had cable Internet at 60Mb/s for $49 a month.

Now I live in a less populated area and my only "FAST" choice is a 15Mb/s cable connection at freaking $69 a month. Ugh
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I live in a nice neighborhood in Dallas, TX, the ninth most populous city in the United States. The neighborhood is all big family homes and everyone has a huge backyard, two car garage, and a pool, very affluent.

I have two choices for broadband, TWC and AT&T Uverse.

I had TWC for a year on the fastest plan the offered. The speed was usually pretty good but the internet in the entire neighborhood would go out at least once a week sometimes for hours and a couple times for more than a day.

So I switched to Uverse and also pay for the fastest plan available. Uverse is a lot more reliable, I have only had my internet go down a couple times in the 6+ months I have had it but I have never gotten higher than about 60% of the speed that they advertise and often in the evening the service gets so slow that I cannot play online games or even surf the internet without constant timeouts and this is paying $57 a month. I mean what the fucking fuck!?

The fact is even in highly populated areas in the US there are many people who don't have access to reliable broadband.
 
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Beer Monkey

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davepoobond said:
he'll get a promotion before he gets fired.

he's not even the guy that made that ultimate decision to have xbox always-on!
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How do you know that ultimate decision was made and that is the outcome?

And yeah, when you fuck PR up this badly, you are gonna get fired. They might do it later when things quiet down, but you need to be a good boy on social networking.
 
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kingocfs

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Hix said:
They may want to stem the tide of the nuclear fallout. Then again, it's pretty clear from this asshat's tweets that he was only sharing his own self-centered and extremely misguided opinion, not trying to smooth over the waters of an always online Xbox to the few sad individuals who follow
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As is traditional, it's business as usual at MS. No new Xbox exists right now, so any rumors conveniently cannot be commented on.

EDIT: And the people tweeting Major Nelson with "GAF IS HAVING A FIELD DAY WITH YOU LOL" are freaking embarrassing and I seriously hope they don't actually post here.
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"Convenient," but just plain true. What do we expect them to say about some narrative we're all piecing together from a few tweets?

All anyone is doing is talking about their console, they dont care.Do any of you these tweets are going to effect sales of their brand new console this holiday? C'mon.
 
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BolognaSoup

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Joe Shlabotnik said:
If this continues to develop into a Class 5 shitstorm AND the always-online rumors are true, don't think MS can just throw the big OFF switch on the idea and release the console on schedule. It is likely fundamental to the console's design, functionality, and business model. So if this all bears out in a few months and you're wondering how MS could have been so bullheaded, it's because their only options were to push this through and hope everyone just sucks it up, or make a new console and release it closer to 2015 than 2013.
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Or maybe it's just one line of code like SimCity.
 
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AstroNut325

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Meh... I'm siding with Adam! Bring on the always online!

NeoGAF must implode with rage!

Edit:
In all seriousness... this whole thing will blow over once the system is announced... regardless if it's always online or now.
 
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RobotRocker

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Dynopia said:
Wow, no. I imagine MS have already created the ability to switch it off (if this is true)

How does it affect anything inside the box?
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If there's one thing companies tend to have on big launches like this. It's back-up plans they can roll out easily and effectively if consumers don't like certain features. Microsoft will probably just send around a memo and put their back up into action by removing the need for always online but still emphasising that online will get the best experience. Everyone wins.

Though considering how quickly this blew up. Microsoft could probably make a mint by licensing the game everyone on the internet wants to play!

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Exclusively on next X-Box! (Kinect Required)
 
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Dead Man

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Gies:

Arthur Gies‏@aegies3m
if (stupidly) the next xbox is always online, then really, so what? there's another system that's not. buy that.

The point is missed by a significant margin.
 
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DaBoss

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DaBuddaDa said:
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So basically Gies is saying #dealwithit

WHAT A SURPRISE ARTHUR GEESE.
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Well, he is essentially saying vote with your wallet. No matter how big of an idiot he may be, what he is saying here is right.


EDIT: Oh I see the problem with this is that he is saying we can't criticize it. That is bullshit.
 
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BruiserBear

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There are members of the gaming press that are going to be so upset if always online ends up becoming a reality for the next Xbox. If only because it's going to be very hard to defend.
 
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Into

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DaBuddaDa said:
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So basically Gies is saying #dealwithit

WHAT A SURPRISE ARTHUR GEESE.
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Yeah not surprising that Gies would say something like that, seems right up his valley.

Really? So what? What about the millions of people who bought a 360 and are not online? Screw them, dont want their business anymore right?

Loyal customers who supported the 360 from day 1
 
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Vamphuntr

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I kind of feel bad for the guy now. I mean he's really unprofessional and stupid to have posted that on twitter but now he's going to get torn into pieces. This will become a future textbook example of what not to do on twitter when you have a job in an important company.

I guess on the bright side it shows that karmic retribution might exist. According to that reddit poster he's supposed to be an arrogant jerk and we know the sweet billy thing is true so it adds credibility to that.

I'll never understand why people adds so much personal info on twitter either. If he had not written he was working for MS on his profile, I doubt most people would have made the connection. I guess it's part of his "look at me kind" of attitude. Now his whole act is printscreened for the world to see.
 
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slider

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ascii42 said:
It can actually be played splitscreen/LAN, but yeah. Mostly online only.
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TheSeks said:
Except if PSN goes down you can still play that offline with tunneling services through the system link. Problem is PSN buyers have to dial-into servers for DRM checks now and then depending on the style of DRM used. Not sure if Warhawk does that but if I remember right when PSN was down with the hack it had no ability to open Warhawk.
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During the hack I think it was unavailable. Was a tough period for me as I was hitting up WH almost daily at the time!

Anyway chaps, it was just a random thought that popped into my head. I wasn't trying to stick up for an always online policy or anything. And the crucial difference for me, probably you guys and most other people is an always online game policy isn't the same as a system wide policy.

Cheers.
 
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