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Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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Jotamide
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Your words are as empty as your soul.is is what it is
boohoo cry me a river.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Oh, I'll cry you a river all right. A river that flows straight to prison for your crimes against humanity. Let's see how cheap games are in jail!
names2hard4you
Member
boohoo cry me a river.
I don't understand what you are doing in this thread if your opinions of this game are so low though. Maybe to make other members mad? I don't know lol. Either way I understand that everyone has different opinions on gaming, I just don't get why you'd come here to tell us that.
Curry-Hakase
Member
No prob guys, I'll order two extra copies in their stead.
Hero Prinny
Member
i was born a husk
wouldn't even be able to get a nes since it might have drugs in it
LOL my opinons are low because i personally don't view its worth asking price? wow guy, ok. I think the game looks fine, I enjoy the ps1 castlevania games but I spent 6 bucks on them and beat them relatively quickly. This game is new so obviously its going to cost more than $6 but for the enjoyment that I got out of the psx castlevania games I don't think a new game in the series(but under a different name) is worth practically $30. I found them fun but not than fun. Just because I'm not all OOOH YEA CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME, HERES $200!!!! doesn't mean I'm down on it. Also if my opinion really upsets you... or anyone else... Well I don't know what to tell you except no everyone is going to have the same opinon as you and they have every right to share said opinion. this a discussion forum afterall.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Funnily enough, the figurative "average backer" is buying two copies of the game.
Thanks, Vita.
Nice to see some really early gameplay.
I don't understand the mentality either, but it doesn't make thier actions wrong. The guy will pay for the game what he feels it's worth and I can respect that, it's not like he's pirating it.
I do think the price thing is a problem for the industry, but on the other side of that I also feel it's the industry's problem, to a large extent they created it and they need to fix it and make it work.
I do my part with my money and leave it at that. If they can't convince others that's how a market works unfortunately. In this case everything had gone well and I don't mind that others will pay less than me later.
So spending $6 on games that are over a decade old means new games aren't worth their asking price? SotN was probably around $60 when it first released, and I'm pretty sure the GBA and DS games launched at $40. Bloodstained is supposed to be bigger than all of those and it's not worth $28? If you don't want to pay that, then that's fair enough, but not worth the asking price? Folks like yourself really give me a true understanding why it's tough being a dev these days.
They're not his favorite castlevania, but I still think he's a fan. He wouldn't have been on the reveal stream and they wouldn't have played SotN on gamegrumps if he didn't at least SORTA like the games.
Average backer pledge is 82 bucks right now ($3,790,266 / 45,909), so yeah, your average backer is basically buying 2 games,
I'm getting physical on Wii U (to collect, and maybe replay), and digital on PC (for beta access and 'definitive' version).
Stop talking about the game being worth 28, because it's clearly worth about ~80 bucks to most people.
Stone Ocean
Member
You know what has no value? Derailing threads to argue about subjective stuff.
I think at this point 4M is a lock, 4.5 is likely, 5M is possible. I hope it hits 5M.
I need this game to be 'complete' and hit all the stretch goals. Especially if 5 million is as crazy as they say.
Anyone have any theories? Second story? Pixel Art remake? Konami partnership, allowing them to use castlevania characters and assets!? What are your pipe dreams?
Hellsing321
Member
If this happened I would pull my pledge. I don't want Konami to have anything to do with this.
Yeah, fuck Konami. They're the reason Iga needed to do this in the first place. Keep them far away from his brand new IP.
I'd be cool with him buying the CV rights from them permanently, but I don't want them touching this or anything else. Konami can rot.
Honestly they should have revealed what it was when there was a week left. Probably would've increased their chances of getting there.
I meant it more in the terms of konami says 'yeah, it's cool, you can use alucard in this game, free of charge!' and not 'hey, we're now co publisher, and you can use your castlevania stuff again'
Aka, never going to happen ever
Really hoping they reveal it today. No way it'll hit it, otherwise.
Like I said earlier, I see little value in revealing it when we're this far away. If we don't hit it all it's going to do is dissapoint people.
Theonik
Member
By the end we will get to $4.5m with paypal. We are not that far at all. Also we have 1 more achievement till we unlock it so we'll find out what it is today.
I could see it making 5M. I just question the logic of revealing such a high level stretch goal when we were like 1.5 million dollars away.
Theonik
Member
Build hype, depends on how efficiently the news propagates. At the very least they need to do the reveal today since after today Kickstarter will begin mass-emailing people who set reminders for the project's end.
I partially agree that showing them too early is also a bad idea as people question whether they can be hit so are less excited about them than if they know they can hit them. Timing is still a bit sloppy.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Anybody know how close we are to the final backer achievement? They said we were really close last night.
Early gameplay looks good. Their talk about the game all sounded good too. He's open to ideas from the people he works with, and that is always a good sign. I have no doubt it will be a quality game. How good is yet to be seen.
The entire art department is fired and replaced with Takeshi Obata. Seems like a reasonable stretch goal for $5M.
DrROBschiz
Member
Cool video
Its interesting. I was expecting his role to be more hands on but it looks like he is just filtering content and supervising
Not sure why I thought his role would be any different lol
Theonik
Member
You should cosplay as Miriam and then we are guaranteed to get the last backer achievement we need.
Haruka
Member
I actually want this to happen. Not because some sort of attachment to Konami, but more as a desperate act to save the franchise because Konami themselves surely aren't going to bother anymore. Not that I would want them to change any ideas they have right now or that they shoehorn Castlevania elements into the game, but maybe try to play with the player's expectation of what a CV game is like without actually deviating from the core aesthetics unlike a certain reboot. More innovation, less pandering, but still "getting" the series. They could make it like a gaiden or whatever. Also, they could just keep the title Bloodstained, since they tried selling CV games under different brands before (Bloodlines is called Vampire Killer in Japan).
/fanfic
Finale Fireworker
Member
This Kickstarter needs a hero. Destiny is calling.
DrROBschiz
Member
It does seem like he knows how to funnel the development in the right direction
The suggestions he had were taking the words out of my mouth when I was watching
Please leave Konami out of this - I don't need them tainting this new burgeoning franchise in any shape or form
If the comment section of the Kickstarter is to believed, we've already hit 50 achievements but we won't know more until they update later today (Ben confirmed there will be more an update today). Ben Judd was also mentioning something about having a meeting to figure out a reward for 55 backer achievements but I'm not sure if he was trolling or not.
If the comment section of the Kickstarter is to believed, we've already hit 50 achievements but we won't know more until they update later today (Ben confirmed there will be more an update today). Ben Judd was also mentioning something about having a meeting to figure out a reward for 55 backer achievements but I'm not sure if he was trolling or not.
OmegaDL50
Member
We've already had the Orchestrated music for quite some time. You also need to factor the $120k from Paypal backers.
So we are actually only 80k short of reaching the 4 Million goal
Since right now it's 3802k + 120k = 3922k
Still getting an additional 1 million in 2 days to hit that 5 million goal sounds kind of rough.
It would need to basically raise in additional 500k per day, Or 330k today, tomorrow, and Thursday. I hope it happens.
AmethystEnd
Member
Might wanna look at your math, there.
names2hard4you
Member
As successful as this has been I think $5M is an unachievable goal. We will reach $4.5M though that I can guarantee.
OmegaDL50
Member
Yeah I fixed it, I added a 4 instead of a 3.
I had 4 million on my mind when typing it.
Generally the last two days or very last day has a very big push of pledges from lots of people sitting on the fence until the last minute rushing in.
Look at daily data for several gaming projects compared to this one.
Mighty No. 9
Broken Age
Pillars of Eternity
And here is Bloodstained
As you can see from the previous trend based on the daily pledge data there is almost always a massive surge of pledges on the last day that adds a significant amount to the funding. I wouldn't say 5 million is impossible, very difficult however.
The last 2 days for most of those seem to be roughly(?) 40-60% of the first three days, on average.
Pillars:
Days 1-3 - 1,383,000
Last 2 - 862,000
Last 2 is 62% of first 3
Broken Age:
Days 1-3 - 1,504,000
Last 2 - 506,000
Last 2 is 37%
MN9:
Days 1-4 (weird first day?): 1,468,000
Last 2: 870,000
Last 2 is 59%
So for bloodstained
Days 1-3 - 1,863,000
~60% of days 1-3 - 1,117,000
I'd say there's a fair chance it could reach 5 million.
The only downside to bloodstained is number of backers. It seems, quantity-wise, to be lower than other KS games, people are just backing at ridiculously high tiers.
MN9 did even better on its last day, but I think it's because it was so close to console specific stretch goals, iirc.
That's what i thought too and honestly i would prefer true 2d to 2.5d.
OmegaDL50
Member
Also the daily data graphs only show information from pledges via Kickstarter, The Paypal pledges do not show.
So the Paypal pledges add an additional factor not accounted for additional funding.
I updated my numbers to be more accurate than what I initially posted.
OmegaDL50
Member
Right. Cool.
Well hopefully everything goes well on the way to that 5 million stretch goal, whatever it may be.
names2hard4you
Member
Yeah I fixed it, I added a 4 instead of a 3.
I had 4 million on my mind when typing it.
Generally the last two days or very last day has a very big push of pledges from lots of people sitting on the fence until the last minute rushing in.
Look at daily data for several gaming projects compared to this one.
Mighty No. 9
Broken Age
Pillars of Eternity
And here is Bloodstained
As you can see from the previous trend based on the daily pledge data there is almost always a massive surge of pledges on the last day that adds a significant amount to the funding. I wouldn't say 5 million is impossible, very difficult however.
Good point, you are right there is a trend there. Hmm, it sure would be awesome if it got to $5M