An internet outage makes me want to play video games more, not less.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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An internet outage makes me want to play video games more, not less.
You're living in the past, man! The future is all about 3 minutes of fun, as long as you maintain a constant network connection.
AlberichMX
Member
Probably but just think about the holiday season, when in Christmas day a lot of people think that their new xbox is "damaged" because it can't work without internet. Don't know if this can happen but i was thinking about that in the morning.
What!!??
Because there's nothing else to do? You don't need to be online to play single-player games...
Neuromancer
Member
Considering what I play 95% of the time (rough estimate) are single player games why would an internet outage affect me?
I'm all for going for walks and being active, but when I decide to sit down and play a single player video game, I should be able to. Whether my internet/Xbox Live/etc are up, or not.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Damn, this thread has over a million views.
Darkmakaimura
Member
Make of this as you will. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44
Petrae
Member
We've seen enough cases where we know this simply isn't reality. You're representing yourself-- and, indirectly, your employer-- in front of potentially tens of thousands of people. That's what social media is.
Had Orth-- or any of the people who have been separated from their jobs as a result of irresponsible use of social media-- not shared info about his employer publicly, it would be the opinion of one guy in a sea of thousands. Instead, his opinion was picked up on by others, tied to his employer as a potential position, and cost his employer in terms of damaged public image and potential damage to the Xbox brand.
It's unfortunate, but justified. This is how social media works. It's why more and more companies are setting up rules about it.
Besides there are so many ways to avoid it.
If you want to fool around you can send private messages.
He could have set his account to private, or even set up an account without personal information.
Nobody would have known it was him, if he would called himself Sweet Billy...
Trent Strong
Banned
Who goes to parks? And I live like 700 miles from a beach.
Dreamgazer
Member
People talk as if there was an era of gaming without the internet.
How silly of them.
How silly of them.
Rayven_king
Member
I was recently affected by this, http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/03/29/seacom-continuing-work-on-cable-repairs
I had to rely on fucking 3G for 2 weeks, so many things can go wrong with the internet and your making it mandatory to be online
I had to rely on fucking 3G for 2 weeks, so many things can go wrong with the internet and your making it mandatory to be online
Hydrargyrus
Member
Do you really think that they would change all his strategy for this internet blowout??
I'm pretty sure that they calculated all these things when the first concepts were presented, at least, two years ago. And MS decided to go forward with the always online.
I don't see MS (or Sony) making any major changes at this time...
Sapphire Dreams
Member
You know what the ironic thing is about his vacuum cleaner analogy?there are rechargeable vacuum cleaners lol.
Neuromancer
Member
Haha good point
Going balls in [Ballmer] like Windows 8 proved disastrous. Let's see how being ignorant to backlash will do for something that's supposed to stick around longer than Windows 8.
Unknown Soldier
Member
This is the same MS that thought people would not only stand for forcing a touch interface down the throats of desktop and laptop PC users, they would embrace and come to love having it. We all know how Windows 8 has fared on the market, the question is if MS will learn any lessons from that or not.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
How has Windows 8 fared on the market? Over 10% of Steam users are running Windows 8 already. They're selling 20 million licenses every month of Win8 which is exactly the same rate they've been selling with Windows 7. They have over 60,000 apps published in their app store already. It's gaining about .5% market share a month worldwide which means it will be at about 8% share by the end of the year (making it the 3rd most popular OS in the world after XP/7).
Microsoft basically views the desktop PC business as dying. They can't say that openly because so much of their financials is still dependent on that business. So they built an OS that lays the groundwork for the next decade of transitioning away from the PC to mobile devices. It's a competent OS, no major bugs, it's fast and maintains compatibility. It doesn't have any of the problems that Windows ME or Vista had. There are useability issues, but that is normal of any version 1.0 release. They've moved to an annual update cycle for Windows like Mac OS. All of these things are smart moves in the grand scheme even if the transition frustrates some consumers.
Microsoft basically views the desktop PC business as dying. They can't say that openly because so much of their financials is still dependent on that business. So they built an OS that lays the groundwork for the next decade of transitioning away from the PC to mobile devices. It's a competent OS, no major bugs, it's fast and maintains compatibility. It doesn't have any of the problems that Windows ME or Vista had. There are useability issues, but that is normal of any version 1.0 release. They've moved to an annual update cycle for Windows like Mac OS. All of these things are smart moves in the grand scheme even if the transition frustrates some consumers.
Flatline
Banned
I do. I really, really do.
Exactly. Windows 8 is a fine example of Microsoft ignoring early complaints that bit them in the ass. They'd have to be fucking stupid to do the same mistake again in such short time.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
How has it bit them in the ass? Have people stopped buying Windows computers? Is everyone running Linux now? Did Microsoft report a bad quarter?
Truespeed
Member
20 million licences? I wonder what percentage are to OEM's that are having so much difficulty selling the OS? It's not often the major OEM's come out and just blame their poor PC sales on a OS. Also, how are those surface sales doing? Have they officially announced their sales numbers? They try so hard to be like Apple, but they don't seem to realize that they're not Apple.
Is that licenses / month an average of total licenses / months on market? Or did they actually sell 20m last month? Because the closing-down-sale discount encouraged anyone with the slightest interest in upgrading to upgrade early so... it's only downhill from here. Also it's only April, so assuming a consistant rate of market share increase is fraught with potential inaccuracy. I assume you want to avoid that and give the clearest picture of Win8 sales and its future that you can.
Unknown One
Member
Windows 8 license was dirt cheap compared to windows 7. I'd rather pony up for windows 7.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
While those are all interesting questions the bottom line is that the OEMs are buying the same number of Windows licenses each month and the company is getting paid the same amount. If the product wasn't selling they wouldn't continue ordering the same number of licenses. PC sales are declining because of tablets. OEMs can blame the OS, but then how do they explain Mac sales declining 22% last quarter?
Most consumers do not pay to upgrade their PC. They just buy a new PC. OEM's don't want you to upgrade they want you to buy a new PC. How many PCs in the store are running anything other than Windows 8? With Haswell coming this year consumers are going to have a big incentive to upgrade.
The only metric you can really point to where Microsoft needs to be concerned is the drop in PC sales to mobile devices. The decline wasn't too bad at about 6% last quarter, but that's actually good compared to Mac which was down 22% for the quarter. Tablets are eating into laptop sales and so it makes sense for them to redesign their OS the way they did. Accepting the fact that it is impossible to retain their monopoly is a healthy thing. Their focus should be to transition as many of their PC customers to mobile devices before the entire market is gone.
Most consumers do not pay to upgrade their PC. They just buy a new PC. OEM's don't want you to upgrade they want you to buy a new PC. How many PCs in the store are running anything other than Windows 8? With Haswell coming this year consumers are going to have a big incentive to upgrade.
The only metric you can really point to where Microsoft needs to be concerned is the drop in PC sales to mobile devices. The decline wasn't too bad at about 6% last quarter, but that's actually good compared to Mac which was down 22% for the quarter. Tablets are eating into laptop sales and so it makes sense for them to redesign their OS the way they did. Accepting the fact that it is impossible to retain their monopoly is a healthy thing. Their focus should be to transition as many of their PC customers to mobile devices before the entire market is gone.
Unknown Soldier
Member
The initial launch period for Windows 8 was marked by deals where just about everybody could buy it for $15 (if they bought a PC in 2012) or $40 (almost everyone else).
However, after all the launch promotions ended:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237252/Windows_8_uptake_slows_for_third_straight_month
Windows 8 is now falling further and further behind Windows Vista in adoption rate, and it's now easily the least successful version of Windows since Windows Me.
PaulExcellent
Member
All of his analogies were complete butt. lol
Raitosaito
Member
You are the biggest corporate apologist I have ever had the pleasure to have been introduce to on this board.
Truespeed
Member
I bought mine for $15 and I still haven't installed it. I probably never will unless they come to their senses and give you the option to jettison that 'modern' UI. I wonder how many consumers are silly enough to pay $100 for it now.
PaulExcellent
Member
I like his posts. They provide entertainment that no one else could possible think of posting. lol
I'll buy that copy from you, my good man. lol
I know this is a few pages back now, but the vacuum ones are perfect. So good.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Oh man, those memes are gold.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
The market is much bigger now for annual sales of PCs than it was during Vista era. 10% of 350M is better than 12% of 200M.
I'm using the same Netapplications numbers. We have new numbers for the month of March. The market share growth rate is holding steady at about .52% last month. That's incredibly fast growth for any OS. They're going to pass by Mac OS lifetime market share within months.
Also Windows XP support is ending in 2014 which means enterprise are going to be forced into upgrades. A lot of them may downgrade to Windows 7, but like I said a sale is a sale. Microsoft's business isn't negatively impacted by any of this and they're preparing their customers for the mobile device transition.
Most of their sales come from volume licensing and OEMs. How many people pay $100-$200 for an upgrade copy of Windows 8 isn't that important to their bottom line. The average consumer is just going to buy a new PC for school or work or for the family and it's going to have Windows 8.1 installed.
The idea that MS execs think they've screwed up badly and they have to reverse course on Metro; it's just not happening. MS can't change the reality that consumers are moving to mobile devices. All they can try to do is build a competent platform for mobile and get their app store in front of as many eye balls as possible.
Who would want to play games when the internet is out? Is that really a question?
when i cant waste my life clicking in circles on my computer on the internet, i'm more likely to finally finishing Tactics Ogre.
Truespeed
Member
I'm aware of their reliance on OEM's, but it's telling that the 100's of millions of PC's out there running Windows 7 or less aren't "that important" to them.
Flatline
Banned
Are you in denial or something? Windows 8 has been an unmitigated disaster.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Always online didn't help Sweet Billy at all.
fatgamecat
Member
The next Windows leak (codename Windows Blue) doesn't bring back the start menu, so probably not.
Whatever is going into Durango has been planned for years. If they already gave up on offline gaming, this recent reaction would be no surprise to them.
Exactly.
Most home users do not care about support lifecycles. Corporates will just move to Win7 as they have been.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I live in minnesota. In the winter time (when most internet/satellite outages hit due to snow storms or whatever), night falls at 5pm. Not much fun to be had outside, it's a nightmare just driving.
Litterally all the games I play work fine without internet. If the connection is gone while I'm playing I won't even notice until I'm finished with the game.
We as in We working at Microsoft?
DragonSworne
Banned
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But you aren't thinking about MS. They noticed and just want to help you troubleshoot your internet as fast as possible. That 's service!
something fishy
Member
Yeah but he's not wrong, win 8 is only a failure in the eyes of those who want it to be, commercial reality is totally different,
He's no worse than the tons of corporate cheerleaders to be honest. Sadly gaming is rife with it.