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I guess I can't shy away from the fact much longer - 3DS is bombing, and it's going to take a price cut and more games to fix it.
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NPD April 2011 Sales Results [Update 6: Nintendo DS Hardware, Pokemon LTD]
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Nintendo were too damn impatient on releasing their handheld console that was obviously not ready. Not only are there barely any games worth it, the 3DS will only get its online stuff in June.
If i were Nintendo, i would have released the 3DS in june, at the same time as Zelda. At least the online would have been ready by then.
The 3DS sales will obviously pick up once more games are released and once developpers slowly stop making DS games, but how long will that take?
I really hope the situation won't repeat itself with the Cafe, hopefully Nintendo learned their lesson with the 3DS.
If i were Nintendo, i would have released the 3DS in june, at the same time as Zelda. At least the online would have been ready by then.
The 3DS sales will obviously pick up once more games are released and once developpers slowly stop making DS games, but how long will that take?
I really hope the situation won't repeat itself with the Cafe, hopefully Nintendo learned their lesson with the 3DS.
Warm Machine
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I really don't get why they even bothered releasing the 3DS when they did. It wasn't like the DS market was in trouble.
just barely.
Reallink
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Bisnic said:
I'm not convinced people even know it's a whole new system. The overall design is so damn similar to the DS/DSL/DSi/DSiXL and they oversaturated that revisions market so badly, I think it may very well be that people are either confused or just fed up with the re-re-re-release bullshit.
Sho_Nuff82
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Bisnic said:
The early launch made Capcom happy by giving them breathing room and allowing them to ship another million copies of SSFIV, I'm sure they're happy as hell with the 3DS launch.
Being one of the most important companies for the 3DS' potential success in Japan, it's a pretty good precedent for the system.
Nintendo has run a ton of promos for the 3DS already. It is almost unheard of for a new platform to have 25 dollar gift card offer (well before launch) and a ton of software sales right away. Not sure how dropping the price to 199 would impact sales at this point much higher.
I think the problem is there is a lot of unsold stock flooding the market, for both software and hardware. SSF4 sold what, 100k first month plus whatever in April (easily at least 50 percent drop)? Add up Japan and Europe and you might break around 250 to 300K? Selling through 3/10 of your initial shipment worldwide isn't exactly stellar. Capcom might have to deal with some price protection issues with retailers for all that extra stock.
Sho_Nuff82 said:
I think the problem is there is a lot of unsold stock flooding the market, for both software and hardware. SSF4 sold what, 100k first month plus whatever in April (easily at least 50 percent drop)? Add up Japan and Europe and you might break around 250 to 300K? Selling through 3/10 of your initial shipment worldwide isn't exactly stellar. Capcom might have to deal with some price protection issues with retailers for all that extra stock.
butter_stick
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We don't know this for sure. If only Valve could reassure me.LM4sure said:
Sho_Nuff82
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Mrbob said:
3DS owners have literally nothing else to buy. It's probably still selling 1:4 with the hardware, so it will creep up steadily in the coming months, and will probably get a bump if Zelda bumps hardware.
Curufinwe said:
Pretty much. We're never going to get Steam numbers, and we're never going to get region-specific Steam numbers at that, so it is kind of pointless to speculate on how great Portal 2 could have sold. When the game clears some arbitrary sales benchmarks (say, 2 million or so), Valve will probably let us know.
Interfectum
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LM4sure said:
How do you know this for sure?
yankeehater
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M_Night said:
LOL. I hope that is the case but I really doubt it.
lunchwithyuzo
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Price drop alone wouldn't do it, but in concert with good software releases a drop would definitely help. That's what DS did in August 2005 by going from $149 to $129 and Nintendo releasing games people actually wanted (Nintendogs, Advance Wars, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, etc). That's when the turn around really started in the US.Mrbob said:
The Abominable Snowman
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Has any "Wait Til (Insert Game)" ever rang true?
Doubt it's gonna magically become relevant for the 3DS. Marketing and appeal sell systems. 3DS right this second is lacking on both ends
Doubt it's gonna magically become relevant for the 3DS. Marketing and appeal sell systems. 3DS right this second is lacking on both ends
Infinite Justice
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Dirtsaw said:
Publisher's "sold" = shipped to retailers
NPD = sold to consumers
WonkyPanda
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Typical gaf hyperbole when the mention of 'the death of the 3DS' is littered across my screen. Yes, the 3DS isn't selling a gajillion units like some would somehow expect to be. Truth be told, it doesn't take long to see how long it took the DS to get rolling (~9months) before it became the powerhouse that it did.
Considering that this time of year is one of the slowest times for gaming, the 3DS isn't "bombing" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, when considering the titles out there, the system is selling fairly well; even more so when considering a pretty hefty price tag for a handheld in a not-so-great economy.
It's easy to look at the DS sales and go 'lol, wut' at the 3DS sales; however, when everything is put into perspective you see a brand-new system that is doing decent, not terrible or phenomenal. It's FAR too early to even gauge the future success or failure of this handheld, so you guys need to just tone it down a notch. It's pretty annoying seeing all this sensationalism when the system hasn't even gone through a full year yet. When big AAA titles come and the system still doesn't move units, then we can have a gaf circle-jerk for the demise of the 3DS.
carry on, gents.
Considering that this time of year is one of the slowest times for gaming, the 3DS isn't "bombing" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, when considering the titles out there, the system is selling fairly well; even more so when considering a pretty hefty price tag for a handheld in a not-so-great economy.
It's easy to look at the DS sales and go 'lol, wut' at the 3DS sales; however, when everything is put into perspective you see a brand-new system that is doing decent, not terrible or phenomenal. It's FAR too early to even gauge the future success or failure of this handheld, so you guys need to just tone it down a notch. It's pretty annoying seeing all this sensationalism when the system hasn't even gone through a full year yet. When big AAA titles come and the system still doesn't move units, then we can have a gaf circle-jerk for the demise of the 3DS.
carry on, gents.
Even when they try hard not to!Grecco said:
http://investor.thq.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=96376&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1542749&highlight=
"THQ (NASDAQ:THQI) today announced that Homefront(TM)has already sold-through an estimated more than one million units across North America, Europe and Asia Pacific markets, on shipments of 2.4 million units to date."
timetokill
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Again, I have to say that the doom and gloom for 3DS is way premature.
We're heading into summer, and there is basically no software for it yet, beyond SSFIV.
If we're seeing these kinds of sales in November, when heavy-hitter software is out there, then I could see it being time to worry.
I do think they need to do more to differentiate the 3DS from the previous platforms, though having many months to do that (heading into the holiday) should give them time to accomplish that.
We're heading into summer, and there is basically no software for it yet, beyond SSFIV.
If we're seeing these kinds of sales in November, when heavy-hitter software is out there, then I could see it being time to worry.
I do think they need to do more to differentiate the 3DS from the previous platforms, though having many months to do that (heading into the holiday) should give them time to accomplish that.
lunchwithyuzo
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It happened on DS (Nintendogs). Like I just mentioned.The Abominable Snowman said:
Graphics Horse
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timetokill said:
Agreed. They acknowledged the difficulty in selling the 3DS right from the reveal, but it's not like they've been going out of their way to do so.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Can I share SKU rankings without getting in trouble?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Nirolak said:
What if I source John Harker?