Principate
Saint Titanfall
With GTA V how the fuck did that happen? There's something fundamentally wrong with that company if in their reprieve periods (Periods of significant sales of titles such as GTA) they still losing money.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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vpance
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Sony will be lucky to claw back the gains MS will have made in Nov + Dec by Oct of next year. Maybe if they can cut the price around E3 it'd be more certain. But then again they have a great line up and Batman co marketing so who knows.
US is the biggest videogames market. how they don't care?
Nice to know I can safely skip over your posts, lol.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
What a shit post.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
So the update is that CBOAT says the difference is only 7-10k. Honestly they both seem hard to believe. 400K is a BIG difference but 7-10K is so dissapointing for MS that I almost find that it impossible to believe as well.
Stone Ocean
Member
Sony didn't lower their price. Next year they will. Unless MS keeps doing aggressive discounts all year, Sony will have the momentum advantage heading into the holidays thanks to spreading their games around, and with better deals it'll be a different playing field.
Don't think for a second that MS will win by default just by slashing prices. How did it go again, "it's a marathon, not a sprint"?
Diprosalic
Banned
it's strange that they are bundling the two Smash together but not the Pokemon. guess it's a name thing.
Yeah, but in fact its Sony that still is in lead by over 600K. So Microsoft is have to continue to claw back. Sony has a lineup next year that is ridiculous, starting from February till the end of the year that almost going to sell itself. And they will most likely have a price cut and some good bundles in the holiday season that will give Microsoft a good run. Its going to be a great marathon.
Opus Angelorum
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Nightengale
Member
If not because the first 20 pages are worth keeping for the lulz, I'd almost recommend that everything from CBOAT's post up till before cream's chart be deleted to avoid any confusion.
Microsoft is definitely taking a loss on the bundles, but $349 for the console should probably be a sustainable break-even price by now, no? Will be interesting to see if a $50 advantage alone will make a substantial difference. The crazy bundles went far beyond that.
All they really care about in first place is making money. Market lead sure is important as it gives You the chance (not guaranteed) to make even more money.
Market lead is meaningful more to execs for internal PR and enthusiasts like us.
CosmicQueso
Member
I'm already weeping for Captain Toad. Only answer I can think of for your question is that the Wii U has just become a niche product to the super core of the Nintendo core audience which buys new Nintendo games at launch? Either that or the tail end of the Digital Deluxe promotion is doing gangbusters (doubtful). It's a mystery. (Everyone please go buy Captain Toad. It's adorable).
It's amazing... good for them.
Also promoted very heavily on BF, probably more consistently so than any other core title. But yeah, great staying power.
The toys to life accessories showed some nice growth this month, and there were quite a few digital SW promotions run on the various networks. More share likely shifted to digital, a trend we should continue to see.
I have to go do my release count comparable, but still fairly sure that the SW market decline overall still correlates closely to the decline in release count. But at the title level, interesting to see the top titles continue to take larger share, another trend that's been going on for, what, 5-7 years now?
If you can release a winning title, you're set. Mid tier titles definitely aren't coming back.
Why you never get a full number from anyone. Known to have happened in the past.
Acquiescence
Member
So we went from a 7k-10k difference to 400k. Well, there goes any credibility Cboat had out of window. That is a massive lead for Microsoft right there.
And where is the proof of this?
wapplew
Member
Answer me this question:
How did the Xbox One sell 1200k units this month?
Same reason how PS4 sold better this year? Cheaper. Plus better lineup for holiday period (at least that the common narrative)
You are kinda correct. But the big prize in console wars does tend to be US and UK because they spend more on games per month vs. other countries that invest deeply in console gaming.
From the usual suspects.
Stone Ocean
Member
The X1 didn't sell more than the PS4 because it had Halo.
gamechanger87
Member
Of MS winning by 400k this month. Yes. There are multiple sources and posts confirming that. CBOAT trolled and got banned for 5 months.
Winter John
Member
Congratulations Microsoft. They did very well. Still, what a hilarious thread. 40 pages of credulous yahoos whooping it up with drive by nonsense suddenly got blown the fuck out. All credibility wiped in an instant now and forever. Is there enough crow to go round?
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
How many Xbones and Wii Us have been sold worldwide?
Completely forgetting the fact that it was slashing their hardware and including pack ins to an almost 50% price difference that got them this months win.
MS could do this forever with their deep pockets, but they won't be allowed to by shareholders.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Got any information to back that up or you just pulled that from the cloud?
I'm sorry. This is just a bad post. Not responding to trash.
With ALL the games coming out early next year? I don't think 400 thousand is insurmountable at all considering MS doesn't have much by comparison until atleast Q2
-Pyromaniac-
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A bunch of pages back CBOAT said the difference was 7-10K when originally someone else reported 400K. Conflicting stories yo. One of those stories is embarrassing for MS.
ThoseDeafMutes
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It's a wallaby, which is similar to a kangaroo.
I think it's ridiculous but I'm not personally impacted since I don't play GTA games.
travisbickle
Member
Bit of a surreal meltdown.
wapplew
Member
I think they can slash it to a point that Sony can't aford to follow and stop there.
fanboy much?
In terms of shipments to retailers, X1 is approaching 10 million and Wii U was 7.3 million as of last quarter.
Stone Ocean
Member
Sony hasn't touched their price yet, if MS keeps the console at 329 you honestly think Sony can't go to 349? Now you're being delusional.
lmao this thread is killing me
keep the price at $349 of course
So you think MS will sacrifice 150-200$ per console to beat sony in one territory? Thats not how business works. Phil has to make profits and thats all that matters to investors. Not if they destroy Sony or if they're getting destroyed by Sony. As rich as MS is Xbox can't throw out money and sacrifice profit for the next 5-7 years.
gamechanger87
Member
CBOAT just trolled. The 400k is confirmed. Wasn't really an update CBOAT just wanted to watch the world burn. In all honesty, I don't know why it wasn't perm.
lol knew you would question it Wotta ;P
We only have (wide) ranges. XB1 > WiiU for sure tho.
That sounds terrible for gamers. Undercut the competition instead of competing, then bring back all the DRM and squeeze that lemon when there is no alternative.
I hope to god I'm wrong, but my fears about Microsofts intention for entering the gaming market were widely confirmed with their announcement of XB1. They showed their cards.
Competition between these two companies keep them honest and provides consumer surplus to us gamers as they vie for our wallets. But Microsoft doesn't really need our wallets short term, they'll take the losses and cover it from their other cash cows.
I do wonder how Sony can compete with that in the long term. Seems its just a matter of time, unless Microsoft pushes too far too soon again.
That's what we should all assume, but you never know. Maybe they really need to get the price back up for a couple of more months. Maybe they think they generated enough mind share for it to sell well at $399.
oldergamer
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Do we have confirmed numbers?
1.2m for XB1 by MS PR apparantly (backed up by Cream) we can deduce from this 800k~ for PS4.
WiiU is 240k~ (thanks Nintendo!)
Multiple sources my balls. There is anything which confirmed that.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
But that's how both the XB and XB360 worked as well as the PS3 ...
I understand your point it's strange to mention this now after we just left a lost leader generation where Sony wiped out it's PS2 and PS1 profits to simply stay competitive.