aygomyownroad
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Great for Microsoft but holy crap at minecraft still being so high up! I thought it was crap my self but wow it must be a record for most months in the top 10!
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NPD Sales Results for April 2015 [Up1: Xbox One #1]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Well that's torn a streak through the prediction thread.
It's s bit of a surprise but if the estimates are right it looks like a quiet month for both with the GameStop and a few other deals giving XB1 a slight nudge ahead.
It's been obvious for a while if MS can maintain a strong enough value gap - ie keep offering better deals - they can match and exceed PS4 sales if PS4 maintains the higher price point.
May looks like a similar month so should be interesting.
If Sony really want to maintain the pressure of being ahead in U.S. a small price cut may be in order. Just enough to raise their baseline and force MS into having to fight even higher on price to compete.
Deals for holiday season should be intense.
It's s bit of a surprise but if the estimates are right it looks like a quiet month for both with the GameStop and a few other deals giving XB1 a slight nudge ahead.
It's been obvious for a while if MS can maintain a strong enough value gap - ie keep offering better deals - they can match and exceed PS4 sales if PS4 maintains the higher price point.
May looks like a similar month so should be interesting.
If Sony really want to maintain the pressure of being ahead in U.S. a small price cut may be in order. Just enough to raise their baseline and force MS into having to fight even higher on price to compete.
Deals for holiday season should be intense.
War. List wars never change.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Halo master chief collection hardware bundle killing it. Up big MoM. Likely due to the halo 5 TV campaign with the bundle In the end tag, and their big reveals and pushes recently for that title. Well planned on their part.
Quantity doesn't mean quality. As I've said, the Xbox One titles are far more attractive than PS4's for this year for general consumers that can help sales. If MS won this month, which is very slow, then it can win more.
Dr Bass
Member
I think relative game library attractiveness would really depend on the taste of the user. Both systems have great lineups, and both can do well.
KillerMan91
Member
Best typo ever
Regardless of who came first, these numbers seem bad. Someone posted that these numbers are the same as the 18-month figures for the PS3 and 360. Pulling the same numbers as two more expensive consoles (in total) 8 years ago doesn't seem like such a grand achievement.
Price of PS3 was $399 back in early 2008 and price of X360 was $279 for Arcade version and $399 for Pro version. Not that different from current prices of PS4 ($399) and Xbone ($349 and $449).
From where i'm standing Toukiden Kiwami, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Heroes, USF4, Tales of Zestiria, Deception 4, Skullgirls Second Encore, Until Dawn and Gravity Rush remaster are much more important to me than any of those games you listed sans Tomb Raider, which will be coming to PS4 eventually anyway.
I just think saying that MS's lineup is objectively more attractive is quite the conclusion to come to.
I think you mean Halo 5.
Interesting to hear that Halo brand is still pulling its weight. Maybe it's not as atrophied as many believed it to be. Are we sure this is not just MCC bundle gradually replacing the ACU bundle as the main SKU? I'd imagined ACU bundle stock has gotta be getting low at this point.
Chobel
Member
Yes, the age of Sony is done.
You have different taste. Is that clear? It doesn't mean that Toukiden or Tomorrow Children or NMS are less attractive games cuz they aren't Halo or Tomb Raider caliber. Right? Right.
MS won April cuz trade-in deals.
Here : ( minus Ratchet & Clank and you can add GeOW if you want ) GIVE ME SHOOTERS
I considered taking advantage of that deal by trading in my 360 to nab a Xbone, but I have WAAAAY to big of a backlog of games on it.
...Well that was fast.
And of course, he's bitching about his ban on twitter ROFL.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Where the fuck is Bloodborne on that list ?!?
Fuck this world.
Congrats, Xbone! Since buying DaS2 on it I am using the console almost daily. It's slick.
For a last-gen port but I never played the game anyway.
Fuck this world.
Congrats, Xbone! Since buying DaS2 on it I am using the console almost daily. It's slick.
For a last-gen port
but I never played the game anyway.KillerMan91
Member
Also pretty huge drop for 3DS from last month (not that much higher than last years despite New 3DS). Like I suspected New 3DS only gave it couple months of extra push as hardcore Nintendo fans upgraded. It's going to be long year for Nintendo in US.
GoonerTRON
Banned
It's pretty amazing when you work together to build something, last year when I played it me and 5 other 25+ year olds made a castle working together, was a flashback to the days of building with LEGO. And this is all after we constantly made fun of our friend who played it all the time, it's a very well made game.
All that stands out to me is Bloodborne and Persona 5. As someone who got a PS4 just for the exclusives it's pretty shitty. Hopefully some surprises at E3.You have different taste. Is that clear? It doesn't mean that Toukiden or Tomorrow Children or NMS are less attractive games cuz they aren't Halo or Tomb Raider caliber. Right? Right.
MS won April cuz trade-in deals.
Here : ( minus Ratchet & Clank and you can add GeOW if you want ) GIVE ME SHOOTERS
Sorry, I don't have a record of how well previous Tekken games did. But Tekken Tag Tournament 2 sold average at best.
Wow, we're doing this? smh.
Kinda funny to see Dark Souls 2 but not Bloodborne in the NPD list.
Greenpaint
Member
Good for Xbox One. A one-sided console generation would be a boring generation. But if MS wants to catch up to PS4, they need these "wins" internationally too, not just in US. This can be done by attracting good games, and looking less like a mindless cold corporation that talks PR bullshit and more like passionate gamers.
You have different taste. Is that clear? It doesn't mean that Toukiden or Tomorrow Children or NMS are less attractive games cuz they aren't Halo or Tomb Raider caliber. Right? Right.
MS won April cuz trade-in deals.
Here : ( minus Ratchet & Clank and you can add GeOW if you want ) GIVE ME SHOOTERS
Uh. None of those are system sellers or as attractive to the general public as Tomb Raider or Halo. Persona 5, Until Dawn, or any other game on that list is not going to have NOWHERE close to an impact as Halo or Tomb Raider will.
Oh, the salt lol.
I don't see anything about objectively better lineup in his post. He said the Xbox library has better appeal to the mass market than the ps4 has, which is certainly true. The games you mentioned are have incredibly niche appeal in the US.
Larogue
Member
You have different taste. Is that clear? It doesn't mean that Toukiden or Tomorrow Children or NMS are less attractive games cuz they aren't Halo or Tomb Raider caliber. Right? Right.
MS won April cuz trade-in deals.
Here : ( minus Ratchet & Clank and you can add GeOW if you want ) GIVE ME SHOOTERS
The Xbox part is missing alot.
Fable legends?
Scalebound?
Neverwinter?
Gears of Wars Collection?
Smite?
Phantom Dust?
Ori and the Blind Forest?
Thing will set on stone by E3. Nevertheless its definitely missing half of the confirmed Xbox One lineup for 2015.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Attractive = ability to attract. Of course Toukiden, Tomorrow Children, and NMS are less attractive than Halo or Tomb Raider.
Chobel
Member
It was #4 in individual SKU ranking.
RiccochetJ
Member
I'm just amazed that people are still buying Minecraft as much as they are. I knew it was popular... just not THAT popular.
GoonerTRON
Banned
Retail only yo. Got to fit the narrative. Sells the PS4 short as well with no No Mans Sky and Rime.
They can always do "something".
Even if they have to lower the price to 199 .
Or start a program "exchange your xbox 360 into an xbox one for 99 ".
But they just must do something because otherwise even if they win North America, they will still be at a 1,5:1 or even 2:1 ratio worldwide.
Its the huge reason MS purchased it. It has a massive following and, outside of MS messing things up, any future Minecraft content is going to do really well for them.
Just announce MC 2 already!
geordiemp
Member
Rubbish. There are far too many games coming out that anyone can buy or have time to play.
Attractive is subjective, its 2015 and IMO I can no longer stomach bad looking games, so I don't buy any games with tearing, sub HD or poor frame rates.
So, which games are attractive coming up ?
Yes, I notice on my 55 inch Panny 4 K AX802, and I sit close.
The only game that looks remotely interesting on the exclusives list is Tomb Raider, but happy to wait for the definitive version.
RETAIL games, man! RETAIL! Scalebound doesn't have a release date and there is no GeOW collection, only the first GeOW.
What salt? LOL! What is the other reason for Xbone winning the April NPD besides trade-in deals?
peter42O
Member
Would love to know Best Buy's Xbox One sales because trade in deals were a huge part towards Xbox One purchases. $100 gift card for a 250gb 360 or PS3 plus a $75 coupon towards the purchase of an Xbox One. Add in the $50 gift card that a lot of Best Buy consumers received via email when purchasing an Xbox One and you're basically getting an Xbox One for $125 after you receive the $50 gift card.
I'm sure $125 compared to $400 has a lot to do with why Xbox One won in April and even then, it was only by 13k more.
Also, one thing that you simply don't know is out of all those who purchase consoles every month is the simple question of - does that consumer who's purchasing an Xbox One or PS4 already own the other console or is their first purchase between the two.
With all the promotions towards Xbox One, offers, bundles, etc., you can easily say it's more of "one hell of an offer to pass up" as opposed to just wanting to go out and buy one because you want it.
Either way, it would be great if there were more in-depth details in regards to sales.
I'm sure $125 compared to $400 has a lot to do with why Xbox One won in April and even then, it was only by 13k more.
Also, one thing that you simply don't know is out of all those who purchase consoles every month is the simple question of - does that consumer who's purchasing an Xbox One or PS4 already own the other console or is their first purchase between the two.
With all the promotions towards Xbox One, offers, bundles, etc., you can easily say it's more of "one hell of an offer to pass up" as opposed to just wanting to go out and buy one because you want it.
Either way, it would be great if there were more in-depth details in regards to sales.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
What year is it? I just saw a blue and green exclusives chart. Holy smokes.
Can we not do list wats please. Nobody wins and everyone loses. Let them go.
Conduit simmer down
You're getting way too worked up. Chill. No more List Warzz.
Conduit simmer down
You're getting way too worked up. Chill. No more List Warzz.
Holy shit. I know I'm late but this gave me a legit shock. The numbers line up exactly. God, this is like some sort of prophecy.
Something like this cannot be so easily explained. The PS4 has also had trade-in deals pretty commonly over the last 12 months actually, and Xbox. This is not the first month of a Xbox One trade-in promotion..
Chobel
Member
Ummm, no.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
I don't think we can really point to trade in deals for April.
Seeing Welfare's post earlier.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164003767&postcount=886
The Xbox was selling at about the same rate as last month and dropped a slight bit even.
Seeing Welfare's post earlier.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164003767&postcount=886
The Xbox was selling at about the same rate as last month and dropped a slight bit even.
Um yes, I've seen it numerous times at Gamestop, Bestbuy, etc., as well as Xbox One. Amazon actually just held their own PS4 trade-in deal I believe last month or so.
So its less that the XB1 is doing better than that PS4 sales plummeted?
peter42O
Member
Despite more games being listed for Xbox One, it still loses to PS4 for me personally. The Order: 1886, Bloodborne and Axiom Verge win 3-1 over just Ori. I could add Tomb Raider but that's a timed exclusive so if you're a patient gamer, you can just wait to play it on PS4. Could also add State of Decay because it's a damn good game but I didn't add The Last of Us Remastered to last year's comparison so no reason to start adding in last gen ports. And no, God of War III shouldn't be added either.
The majority of Xbox One exclusives are either FPS (my least favorite genre), racing (have no interest) or online games like Fable and Neverwinter. Either or both could be great but I have no interest in either. PS4 is lacking when it comes to "AAA names" but it's all about what your personal preference is. I personally would pick No Man's Sky over all of the games listed that haven't been released yet regardless of the console it was going to be released on.
Another factor is this - I don't really see ANY of those games that haven't been released yet having a major factor in sales. The longer you wait to buy a console, there's usually a good amount of games already released that the consumer wants to play. Future titles are always taken into consideration but what's the point of buying a console at the time if there's nothing you want to play?
Sony partnered with Amazon for a trade-in deal in the month of April.
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_lin..._t=101&pf_rd_p=2076523002&pf_rd_i=10825011011
http://slickdeals.net/f/7802365-amazon-trade-in-towards-ps4
GoonerTRON
Banned
Err no. So far as I'm aware BB launched better than previous From Software "Souls" style titles and it's made clear that as a single SKU it would have been in top 10.
It's not and never was a AAA title, it's a prestigious critical darling aimed at a smaller audience.
In short I haven't seen one piece of info anywhere that the game isn't doing well for what is is.
People can behave as though it was going to do high end Uncharted or Gears numbers but that was never actually going to happen.
It's the kind of title that would have produced a modest, short lived sales dime that then becomes a long term library enhancer. It's impact on console sales for April would always have been minimal.
Bottom line both consoles has relatively standard slow month sales and most likely better price/deals combo gave XB1 a slight edge.
Once you really look at the data the small victory for XB1 isn't even that surprising.
Major momentum over a competitor needs a true must have game (which neither console has as on now) or a really steady flow of exclusives to keep delivering sales spikes (again neither is doing this although Sony is probably closer but The Order didn't deliver) or a lot of deals and offers which MS is actually doing a better job of.