RiccochetJ
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Just got back. I liked this more than any of the Phase 4 movies except for No Way Home. I'd probably rate it as being on par with the other Ant-Man movies.
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Ant-Man and the WASP: Quantumania Reviews, as expected, it's depressing and unbearable
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Pejo
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You realize I don't mean find 1500 pound ants right? You can absolutely do this with practical effects opposed to CGI. Animatronics have made huge leaps and bounds over the stuff everybody is familiar with in the 90s, it's just probably cheaper and quicker to make a CG scene. Even if it's only a mix of both, it'd be better than a bunch of actors wearing dot suits in front of a green screen for 80% of a movie. A scene looks totally different when the majority of it is CG vs a real set with CG mixed in or used to make up for parts that wouldn't work.There is literally no way to do this movie practically. And that's simply the way it is for characters like ant man who regularly travel to fantastical worlds that defy all laws of science and physics.
I can see the cgi complaint when you're talking grounded stuff but thats just not what ant man is or ever was.
Toons
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Im mostly talking about the backgrounds here, which were always going to be digitally created. Not to spoil the movie but no, animatronic ants also would not be possible in this one it just wouldn't be feasible to do.
Finally all of the actors are in real suits and have been for the entirety of phase 4 and 5 and previous. You can see set photos with them wearing tangible suits. Save for Iron man and the iron spider suit obviously
Party McHardy
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The fact that a shitty D grade comic book character like Ant Man has three films is evidence of how creatively bankrupt these corporates are. I can’t wait for this genre to be over.
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GymWolf
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Yeah, it's always funny to see marvel history revisionism and a parallel reality where all the marvel movies were bangers instead of the actual reality where they have less than 10 decent movies...and i'm being generous.
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Ulysses 31
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Seems to have the same massive problems as earlier phase 4 movies(MoM, WF, TL&T) and the jokes seem even worse.
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Toons
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????
Why shouldn't they use ant man, a character whose survived 60 years of comics publication?
Would you rather just endless batman and superman?
Fbh
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Oh another bland MCU movie who could have seen this coming!
Watch it still make like 800 million because Marvel
This is true, though I think franchise fatigue wasn't as strong then and we DID get some decent ones from time to time, as opposed to now (personally haven't liked any MCU movie since Infinity War).
Watch it still make like 800 million because Marvel
This is true, though I think franchise fatigue wasn't as strong then and we DID get some decent ones from time to time, as opposed to now (personally haven't liked any MCU movie since Infinity War).
pauljeremiah
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Just out of it, it felt like a mediocre episode of Rick and Morty. Jonathan Majors is a good villain, but the film feels like a setup for a payoff we won't get for about two years.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
I saw it tonight. It wasn't good, but I enjoyed it more than Wakanda Forever. Some serious problems with it.
Not looking good for MCU
Disneys writers have no sense of scale or world building. The Quantum Realm felt like such a wasted setting. MODOK got done super dirty. And Kang is basically a chihuahua. All bark and nothing to back it up. Dont get me wrong, the actor has the gravitas for the performance, but having the shittiest avenger beat him sucked. This movie should have been much more of a pyrric victory. The council of ricks revelation was lame too
Not looking good for MCU
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DeaDPo0L84
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I've grown extremely tired of Marvel movies to the point I watch spoiler reviews cause by the time I watch it (if I do) I'll forget most of what I heard.
With that said I'll never forget a certain cgi face in this film
With that said I'll never forget a certain cgi face in this film
CortexVortex
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I enjoyed the first two movies, so I will watch it at the cinema for sure but the reviews are quite concerning…
SentientStone
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No idea why the reviews are extra low compared to the other Marvel films.
I am getting tired of the Disney formula and this is just that. It’s not much worse than the last Thor. I myself enjoyed this more as I never cared for the more mainstream Marvel characters such as Thor, while this film had MODOK and Bill Murray. Lol
I am getting tired of the Disney formula and this is just that. It’s not much worse than the last Thor. I myself enjoyed this more as I never cared for the more mainstream Marvel characters such as Thor, while this film had MODOK and Bill Murray. Lol
FunkMiller
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Nice big fat drop off in second week box office then.
Tieno
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Saw it in the cinema yesterday. At no point was I invested or engaged in the story. The movie feels like a Disney ride that you've taken way too many times, the way the story progresses. They played it so safe with the ending.
Did not like it, it felt creatively bankrupt.
Did not like it, it felt creatively bankrupt.
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March Climber
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It would be like releasing yet another military shooter video game in the year 2012 on Xbox 360. On it's own the game might be good, play well, look graphically solid, and perform well, but considering the context of the time period and the amount of military shooters that released before 2012 on the Xbox 360, you're going to have a really tough time convincing people why they should buy your specific military shooter.
Now, the way to get around this would be to find something fun and unique to make your Xbox 360 shooter stand out. Like maybe taking members of the rap group G-Unit and making them hunt for a Crystal Skull in the middle east. Or maybe you play as a Sniper and every bullet you shoot goes into a slo-mo Mortal Kombat-esque killcam. Or maybe their game suddenly has dinosaurs show up partly into the game and you've turned from mercenary to dinosaur hunter.
Your patience for this just happened to run out faster than others, the same way I knew some of the harsher reviewers were already tired of Xbox 360 shooters after Modern Warfare 2 in 2009. Lately with Marvel I've been on the ledge. We've reached a point where people aren't saying 'this is a good film' and they're instead saying 'this is good for a Marvel film' which reminds me of the days where people would say 'this looks good for a Wii game' as a sort of a nice pat on the head for Nintendo trying their best graphically with a library of games that could easily be ported to the PS Vita.
fran.fernandez
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It was good! Lot better than Thor love and thunder / wakanda forever .
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Bwesh
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This was my thought too. It was basically a bad rick and morty episode. A character who's supposed to be this phase's big bad losing to ant man makes him look very weak.
sono
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I am going to see this with the Mrs today I will let you know
I enjoyed Dr Strange Benedict was awesome
SkylineRKR
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This movie is horrible. I zoned out constantly for the first hour or so. I didn't care about the bad green screen Star Wars wannabe stuff. Seriously I was thinking I am watching a sort of retake on Phantom Menace. Only, Phantom Menace was actually better with better world building. This world looks so uninteresting and badly generated, I don't give a shit what Kang is going to plan. They all talk pretentious gibberish. The only redeeming factor in this movie is Michelle Pfeiffer, who stole every scene she was in. And good old Douglas is fun as well. But the guy playing Antman, his daughter and the Wasp are all trash. The CG was fucking terrible. Just look at how they've done MODOK. But also the settings... it looked god awful.
And about Kang, he's a joke (ending and after credits spoilers).
I've been out of the MCU for a good while. And this one didn't convince me to go watch the X amount of series and films I skipped. Give me DC any day of the week. Sure there is absolute trash, but also great movies like The Batman and I hope Shazam 2 will be as fun as the first.
Remember the early MCU days? Iron Man 1, Avengers 1, Winter Soldier.. I would actually rewatch those. But at some point in time the franchise just became throwaway CG fests and I've never rewatched a MCU movie since Endgame. And yeah, it does seem they are creatively bankrupt. Love and Thunder isn't better by the way, they're both the same trash within the same whatever settings. Then I actually respect Eternals more, which was absolutely boring, and yes you could say it was woke, but it dared to take a different approach and it even mentioned DC heroes.
And about Kang, he's a joke (ending and after credits spoilers).
I want to destroy worlds because you don't understand. I am protecting the universe against myself. And then in the AC you see a full stadium of Kangs, even a Pharaoh Kang. Its stupid and hilarious. Its the same as all the Lokis, where the whole parralel versions of characters started.
I've been out of the MCU for a good while. And this one didn't convince me to go watch the X amount of series and films I skipped. Give me DC any day of the week. Sure there is absolute trash, but also great movies like The Batman and I hope Shazam 2 will be as fun as the first.
Remember the early MCU days? Iron Man 1, Avengers 1, Winter Soldier.. I would actually rewatch those. But at some point in time the franchise just became throwaway CG fests and I've never rewatched a MCU movie since Endgame. And yeah, it does seem they are creatively bankrupt. Love and Thunder isn't better by the way, they're both the same trash within the same whatever settings. Then I actually respect Eternals more, which was absolutely boring, and yes you could say it was woke, but it dared to take a different approach and it even mentioned DC heroes.
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Nintendo's Witch
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Marvel movies died with the last Avengers movie. Move on.
Alcibiades
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Is it me or was there no Marvel intro this time around? Kept waiting for one and about 3/4 of the movie I realized it wasn't coming (or I missed it somehow).
You don't like George Costanza with a tiara?
It's not an offensively bad movie. It just doesn't have any meaningful character development or do much to make you care about the throwaway CGI cast. As a way to kill a couple of hours, it's fine, but if it didn't exist I don't see what would have been lost. Especially since Kang was already setup by Loki season 1, and season 2 looks to continue this.
Toons
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Season 1 of loki showed you a fairly benevolent version of Kang who was warning about guys like this, this movie shows off what he was warning about with just one example. So this one Kang was pretty dangerous and built an empire in the quantum realm and there are many more like him.
I think Scott will be the guy that esrns the other heroes about Kang when he reappears
Toons
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There was an intro, you must have got to the movie a couple minutes late
Right but season 2 of Loki is presumably not going to feature the same benevolent version.
ReBurn
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Yeah I recall seeing the Disney+ teen Ms. Marvel being conspicuously lighted and accented in the two seconds she was visible toward the end and it left me looking for clues about her during the movie. But I didn't see any.
Toons
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They updated the entire logo to show some of the newer characters interspersed with the classics. I didnt notice any particular one standing out but I definitely saw some of the TV show characters
Trilobit
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Too bad. That was the vibes I got from the trailers. Too much green screen and not enough heart. I loved the first one and really liked the second one so I'm quite disappointed. Might watch when it hits streaming.
Overall I'm getting evermore frustrated with Marvel movies. The last Spider-Man was a hot mess and cheapened the characters from the Raimi movies. I long for the day we no longer get these multiverse/dimension escapades and instead get good stories.
Overall I'm getting evermore frustrated with Marvel movies. The last Spider-Man was a hot mess and cheapened the characters from the Raimi movies. I long for the day we no longer get these multiverse/dimension escapades and instead get good stories.
Cyberpunkd
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I have absolutely no idea why Ant-Man exists as a superhero and this was greenlit to not one, but two movies.
SentientStone
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I heard his booking was done by Vincent K. McMahon.
MayauMiao
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Nope. I read the spoilers and was not disappointed qith my decision for not giving Disney money.
ChorizoPicozo
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i am not talking about this movie. Disney/MCU has some no secret assets they will used to make even more money than with avatar 1/2 combined...and you will be there
FunkMiller
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I think you’re overestimating what remaining IP Marvel have to bring to the table.
ChorizoPicozo
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i think you underestimating the power of nostalgia.
FunkMiller
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The nostalgia bait stuff being successful is going to dry up at some point. I’m going to say right around the time The Flash and Indy 5 come out.
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ChorizoPicozo
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The Flash is DC.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Kang seemed well liked in terms of engaging with the heroes, he has a different level of abilities but I liked Thanos better.
The ant man’s bread and butter is the new quantum realm just because I have never seen those people and worlds before.
The ant man’s bread and butter is the new quantum realm just because I have never seen those people and worlds before.