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Ant-Man and the WASP: Quantumania Reviews, as expected, it's depressing and unbearable
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trikster40
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Just got out, don’t believe the reviews. Was a lot of fun, and makes me excited for the next couple of phases.
I never listen to reviews anyway, but was a bit worried seeing the ton of negativity surrounding the film.
I never listen to reviews anyway, but was a bit worried seeing the ton of negativity surrounding the film.
March Climber
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Name them.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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I liked the movie but I have got to say that the:
Kang is supposed to be the next gen Thanos, the villain that is supposed to take on the avengers, a villain that has even killed the avengers countless times. Yet this lone Kang that is said might have been the most dangerous, and we have to assume smart, thought he could take out all other Kangs with an army of weakling mobs. For the love of God how ridiculous. I expected Kang to have better tech and escape the quantum universe, but he was easily overwhelmed by ant-man alone.
If this one of the most dangerous Kangs can't even deal with ant-man how are we supposed to believe he can actually handle the rest of far stronger avengers? Also, was this Kang entirely deluded or was he right whe he thought a small ship with a handful of ultra weak mobs was enough to take down all the other kangs?
Again the writers completely failed on this one. Kang and his technology was portrayed as super weak and by virtue of this one Kang believing he could take down all the other Kangs, it cast doubts on the competence of the entire collection of Kangs. Again we should be presented with what seems like a real threat, not another villain of the week.
If this one of the most dangerous Kangs can't even deal with ant-man how are we supposed to believe he can actually handle the rest of far stronger avengers? Also, was this Kang entirely deluded or was he right whe he thought a small ship with a handful of ultra weak mobs was enough to take down all the other kangs?
Again the writers completely failed on this one. Kang and his technology was portrayed as super weak and by virtue of this one Kang believing he could take down all the other Kangs, it cast doubts on the competence of the entire collection of Kangs. Again we should be presented with what seems like a real threat, not another villain of the week.
Doom85
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Because Kang DIDN’T have all his usual tech and armies. He was forced to utilize what he could find in the Quantum Realm as opposed to having access to a multiverse’s worth of technology, resources, and soldiers. It should be obvious the empire he built was a pale comparison to what he previously ruled.
Also, what makes you believe he could take down all the other Kangs by himself? Are you forgetting it was the other Kangs themselves who exiled him?
Also, what makes you believe he could take down all the other Kangs by himself? Are you forgetting it was the other Kangs themselves who exiled him?
Doom85
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Yeah, except in this film I could actually take the main villain seriously, and the other side villain who had uncanny valley CGI was done intentionally to be goofy. Tron Legacy combined both and the result was:
Tron Legacy is still great, but the gap between them isn’t that much IMHO.
LimanimaPT
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I hope this is the beginning of the end of super hero movies. Worst phase in cinema since there are movies.
FunkMiller
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Revolutionary
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This movie reminded me of Phantom Menace in so many ways.
That is not a good thing.
That is not a good thing.
The movie for the most part was just meh/mediocre. If not for it's budget it would just be a cheap sci fi channel movie.
I kind of feel like it should have been like a mini series. That way we could have learned more about the quantum realm. It could have been a show more about the journey and spending time with their family. I enoyed Kang at the beginning but he just slowly gets worse as the movie progresses. I really hated when the cg blurred the landscape when they were traveling a bit fast. Like I want to clearly see the world. Try not to think too much about the story since you will find a lot of plot holes. I swear I get more annoyed the more I mused over the movie's story.
I kind of feel like it should have been like a mini series. That way we could have learned more about the quantum realm. It could have been a show more about the journey and spending time with their family. I enoyed Kang at the beginning but he just slowly gets worse as the movie progresses. I really hated when the cg blurred the landscape when they were traveling a bit fast. Like I want to clearly see the world. Try not to think too much about the story since you will find a lot of plot holes. I swear I get more annoyed the more I mused over the movie's story.
Badlucktroll
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When is it streaming? dont want to drag ass to the theater to see it
ChorizoPicozo
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and Indie is not marvelYou don’t say?????
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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What makes me believe he could take the other Kangs out? Because he basically says so, that he's taking that piss poor weak mob tiny army he's built to kill all the other Kangs that exiled him? That entire robot army was the weakest shizzat I've ever seen, he might as well have only left with his chair, the tiny robot army is entirely useless trying to take it out of the quantum realm was a waste of time.
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Doom85
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I mean, he was obviously going to raise a far superior army once he was out, but even so, why NOT take the forces he already has as well? Not taking them would just be a waste.
Also, we only have his word that he could take on all the other Kangs. A villain showing overconfidence is hardly new, I don’t know why this instance should be seen any differently. I’m not saying it’s inconceivable he could figure a way how to do it, but we do know for sure the one time they did clash, he lost. THAT is what you should be taking as fact, not Conqueror Kang’s plans that never got to see the light of day.
Also, we only have his word that he could take on all the other Kangs. A villain showing overconfidence is hardly new, I don’t know why this instance should be seen any differently. I’m not saying it’s inconceivable he could figure a way how to do it, but we do know for sure the one time they did clash, he lost. THAT is what you should be taking as fact, not Conqueror Kang’s plans that never got to see the light of day.
March Climber
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ChorizoPicozo
I had the notification that you quoted me but when I checked there was nothing. I'm assuming you typed something bad enough for the mods to feel that it shouldn't have happened. To bring the conversation down a different path, I'll state that the only movie I see doing a billion plus(by combining disney fans, anime fans, and video game fans) would be an actual adaptation of Kingdom Hearts to the big screen. Whether live action, CGI, or animated, it would be a big red button movie that would guarantee ticket sales because it would be Disney's version of Infinity War.
Vyse
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This. Really enjoyed it as well.
ChorizoPicozo
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really? wow.
I am just talking about the MCU.(kingdom hearts is cringe AF)
once they incorporate The X-Men. pfffff
you want to see unprecedented succes?!
wolverine vs hulk. and shit like that.
we could see a sneak peak of this potential with deadpool 3
March Climber
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Absolutely
How it's received on a personal level doesn't matter. It would be like saying that you feel Sonic/Sonic fans are cringe and we all know how well those movies did.
I agree with X-men being a heavy hitter. However, Kingdom Hearts has the luxury of possibly having cringeworthy dialogue and getting away with it. The way Marvel currently is, they can’t put their writers on something like X-men until they get it together.
The writers have been the ones dropping the ball constantly as of late and this is why I worry about the state of X-men. We’ve already suffered through 4-5 bad X-men movies under Fox and the series ended on a bad note. Under Disney it should be priority number 1 to not make the X-men movie bad or boring.
ChaosWalrus
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And it was an explicit call for socialist revolution. An enjoyable afternoon.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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Yeah I guess he could've been overconfident, and it is true he lost once. But one would imagine he learnt from his loss and has prepared for a win knowing what the other kangs are capable of now. The tiny army was just way too small and way too pathetic, they seemed like they could be beaten by just about anyone. Maybe if he'd suggested he was gonna build more or do more once outside than we could say yeah that's not enough to take on the kangs. But the way its portrayed in the movie is like he thinks that small battalion is enough to conquer the multiverse and all the other kangs.
The fact that the exiled kang which seems to hint at him being one of the more powerful kangs was thoroughly beaten by ant-man is just not a good start.
The fact that the exiled kang which seems to hint at him being one of the more powerful kangs was thoroughly beaten by ant-man is just not a good start.
Bragr
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What?
ReBurn
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It's heading to Secret Wars and probably some retcon.
Ulysses 31
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F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Well I suppose starting with a broken leg ain't good, but you can still cross the finish line, you know?And this is supposed to be the launch of phase 5...
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Ulysses 31
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Well, do you expect The Marvels having the same magic as seeing the Avengers assemble for the first like Feige is telling people?
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I suppose I will have to see for myself. I have no disdain for Captain Marvel and found it very enjoyable. This however...it just doesn't work. It fucking blows frankly.Well, do you expect The Marvels having the same magic as seeing the Avengers assemble for the first like Feige is telling people?
YukiOnna
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That was really bad... now the burnout is setting in for me.
That didn't really feel like an Ant-Man movie at all, outside of the Quantum Realm, you could have thrown any hero title on there and it'd fit. I wasn't happy with how much Scott and Hank took a backseat in this one. Ant-Man 2's handling of the stinger was way better.
Also, I don't like the direction they took with Kang at all. What a waste of a character.
That didn't really feel like an Ant-Man movie at all, outside of the Quantum Realm, you could have thrown any hero title on there and it'd fit. I wasn't happy with how much Scott and Hank took a backseat in this one. Ant-Man 2's handling of the stinger was way better.
Also, I don't like the direction they took with Kang at all. What a waste of a character.
Movie was great. Idk what people want if they think this is bad marvel. It’s the best out of phase 4/5. Compared to earlier films it would be middle of the pack. Still great. And gives Kang a nice intro.
People saying kang was under powered or didn’t have gravitas like what? Did you even watch the film? They showed him destroying worlds and civilizations. He gets beat by antman bc he’s totally cut off and unprepared. Even then it took everything they had plus change to beat 1 under prepared and cut off kang. Like what did you actually want out of this? The movie had to have that ending. Kang took antman apart 1 on 1 and almost killed him with his bare hands.
People saying kang was under powered or didn’t have gravitas like what? Did you even watch the film? They showed him destroying worlds and civilizations. He gets beat by antman bc he’s totally cut off and unprepared. Even then it took everything they had plus change to beat 1 under prepared and cut off kang. Like what did you actually want out of this? The movie had to have that ending. Kang took antman apart 1 on 1 and almost killed him with his bare hands.
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Toons
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I don't get this sentiment. Jts not like other movies aren't getting made. This sort of thing is like hoping pop music "ends ". Sure you may have to look a little harder but there's a lot of other movies out there with the asvent if streaming platforms.
If you dislike superhero films they are ridiculously easy to ignore.
Toons
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Theres no way they had Evangeline shut that down by coincidence in the script lmfao
Doom85
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Ulysses 31
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Batiman
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Ya the hate is weird. Watch something else. A lot of great non-cape movies came out recently
Darkmakaimura
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Omg, literally "Kangz n' shit" Lmao.
DeafTourette
Older than air but younger than the foundations of the earth
A lot of the same people lamenting about phase 4 hated everything about the previous phases... All because it's "capeshit"
Darkmakaimura
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Capeshit is the new Western.
Hayabusa83
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They have already blown through the good source material. Hopefully we see an end to cape shit real soon.