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Media Create Sales 10/1 - 10/7 2007

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Porkepik

Member
8400 PS3 does not surprise me at all with a price cut announced 2 weeks ago for this week. Only the uninformed would buy it last week. I would have never bought a ps3 If I was aware it's price would be reduced next week

360 very close to the ps3 , we might have a surprise with the media creat numbers
 
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John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
50% drop for ASH isn't actually that bad.

However, the price cuts were :lol

Looks like it'll end up where IAWW did?
 
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Kosma

Banned
Porkepik said:
8400 PS3 does not surprise me at all with a price cut announced 2 weeks ago for this week. Only the uninformed would buy it last week. I would have never bought a ps3 If I was aware it's price would be reduced next week

360 very close to the ps3 , we might have a surprise with the media creat numbers
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THis is true yes. 8400 units sold with an announced price drop is actually pretty good numbers.

Sony always wins.
 
NeonZ

NeonZ

Member
1.DBZ-PS2 53000(214000)
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How much did Tenkaichi 2 sell in Japan (PS2 or Ps2+Wii)? These sales seem decent enough, but I hope they're enough to convince them to create a 4th version of the series.

I'd really hate to see it ending now (especially after the producer said that they'd try to incorporate a "create-your-character" feature in a possible sequel >_>).
 
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gcubed

Member
max-pain said:
Yeah, they announced today's price drop last week (Tuesday).
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bubububu Sony am doomed har har har, its selling so low, har har har, People like spending extra money isntead of waiting a week!
 
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Jokeropia

Member
oo Kosma oo said:
THis is true yes. 8400 units sold with an announced price drop is actually pretty good numbers.
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8400 units is never a good number. There were also reports that several retailers didn't want to wait with the pricedrop and instead dropped it as soon as the announcement came. (I know Amazon did, for example.)
 
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Porkepik

Member
Oh and If Msoft had deemed the japanese worthy of more than 5k elite they would have topped the PS3 without a doubt.

I was really thinking that the PS3 numbers would be in the 5k range this week(due to the price drop, I still don't understand how they can annonce a price drop and not make it effective immediately, this is sale suicide) and the 360 10-12k until i read that msoft had only put 5k elites on the store shelves
 
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Kosma

Banned
Jokeropia said:
8400 units is never a good number. There were also reports that several retailers didn't want to wait with the pricedrop and instead dropped it as soon as the announcement came. (I know Amazon did, for example.)
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Expect Sony to do great numbers when the price drop is in full effect.
 
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Kosma

Banned
Good thing about these low sales is that now sales will be able to increase by 200% to 300%. If we had last week sales the sales increase would be around 200% max.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
Good god, ASH is a fucking disaster. Good going, Nintendo. Way to show 'em.

NeonZ said:
How much did Tenkaichi 2 sell in Japan (PS2 or Ps2+Wii)? These sales seem decent enough, but I hope they're enough to convince them to create a 4th version of the series.

I'd really hate to see it ending now (especially after the producer said that they'd try to incorporate a "create-your-character" feature in a possible sequel >_>).
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My understanding is that the recent (ie PS2 and onward) DBZ games were/are made for the US region, and the Japanese sales have just turned out to be gravy, so I think as long as it keeps selling well in the occident, the series will continue.
 
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ethelred

Member
Pokemon MD 44000 (956000) -- impending million seller, as expected.
CCFF7 15000(705000) -- not going to be a million seller... as expected.

Nishimura suspense 44000 -- that is... actually a really good start. I was figuring Kyotaro Nishimura Mystery would tank, but 44k opening week is great, especially for a smaller publisher like Tecmo. I'm looking at some of their other major series (like DOA), Deception, Monster Farm, and Gallop Racer, and the opening week sales rivals those.

Hopefully it can hang around for a bit! Shame most of these cool looking adventure games never come out in the west, though.

7.ASH 24000(82000) -- :(

10.MPO+ 16000(169000) -- fucking great sales. This thing is selling almost as well as a real, main series Metal Gear Solid game. And Portable Ops' rerelease has already beaten Substance AND Sustinence.

John Harker said:
50% drop for ASH isn't actually that bad.

However, the price cuts were :lol

Looks like it'll end up where IAWW did?
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Nope. It's never going to hit IAWW's sales, because IAWW had a higher initial retail order (around 200k). ASH is going to taper off at around 140k maximum.
 
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John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
ethelred said:
Nope. It's never going to hit IAWW's sales, because IAWW had a higher initial retail order (around 200k). ASH is going to taper off at around 140k maximum.
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Did IAWW get past 150k?
 
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Nuclear Muffin

Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
lol PS3

DSL 80000
PSP 69000
Wii 24000
PS2 12000
PS3 8400
360 7100
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There's a chance! come on 360!!!

Wii is up slightly, looks like it finally broke it's fall but it's gonna be a slow climb back up.
 
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ccbfan

Member
I think there was a conference bump for the Wii. Not much but at this point any improvement is better than its previous freefall.

Ouch at the PS3, if MS shipped more elites 360 > PS3 would have been guaranteed.

Still ouch on Wii software. I wondered how much the conference bump effected it considering the conference bump was probably mainly core games instead of the super casuals. Would DBZ have been in the 20s without the bump or if would DBZ have stayed the same. PS2 software still showing Wii whose boss.

DS is back to its usually dominating position but PSP isn't doing bad either. I thought it was going to be under 50 this week but its holding on longer than I thought. I thought Slim bump was only going to be 3 weeks but from the looks of it, it might last until the holiday season. I wonder what its going to even out as. Plus software seems to be doing a good deal better than usual. Games seem to have a lot more legs.
 
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Belgorim

Member
Well, I'm looking forward to the MC numbers now. But the next few weeks are going to be more telling, to see how the white ps3 affects things.
 
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Pureauthor

Member
ethelred said:
Pokemon MD 44000 (956000) -- impending million seller, as expected.
CCFF7 15000(705000) -- not going to be a million seller... as expected.

Nishimura suspense 44000 -- that is... actually a really good start. I was figuring Kyotaro Nishimura Mystery would tank, but 44k opening week is great, especially for a smaller publisher like Tecmo. I'm looking at some of their other major series (like DOA), Deception, Monster Farm, and Gallop Racer, and the opening week sales rivals those.

Hopefully it can hang around for a bit! Shame most of these cool looking adventure games never come out in the west, though.
10.MPO+ 16000(169000) -- fucking great sales. This thing is selling almost as well as a real, main series Metal Gear Solid game. And Portable Ops' rerelease has already beaten Substance AND Sustinence.
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So basically handhelds win next-gen?

(Yes, I left out ASH. Thinking about it hurts inside.)
 
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ethelred

Member
John Harker said:
Did IAWW get past 150k?
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Yes, the last Famitsu figure for the game was 170k. As I said, it probably continued to sell under the radar until it burned through most of its initial order. It's probably at around 190, 195k right now... and it's going to stay there.

Pureauthor said:
So basically handhelds win next-gen?
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Basically. Take a look.

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MGS 2			PS2 	456,747 	88,175 		47,913 		798,185
MGS 2: Substance	PS2 	64,867 		26,707 		21,954 		147,561
MGS 3			PS2 	487,156 	122,977 	84,174 		819,807
MGS 3: Subsistence 	PS2 	73,337 		21,109 		- 		133,339
MG: Portable Ops	PSP 	138,632 	55,791 		53,476 		374,549
MG: Portable Ops +	PSP	88,940  	40,933  	-		169,000

Those are really impressive numbers for the game.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
ethelred said:
That would be quite miraculous as the conference took place on 10 October and this is the Media Create period of the first through the seventh.
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But aren't these new figures for the 8th through the 14th? (I don't think there was a conference bump BTW).
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
NeonZ said:
How much did Tenkaichi 2 sell in Japan (PS2 or Ps2+Wii)? These sales seem decent enough, but I hope they're enough to convince them to create a 4th version of the series.

I'd really hate to see it ending now (especially after the producer said that they'd try to incorporate a "create-your-character" feature in a possible sequel >_>).
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I don't know what second-weeks were like, but both PS2 and Wii versions dropped from the the previous for the first week.

As says Famitsu...
Wii week 1: 42,501
Wii total: 157,784

PS2 week 1: 242,856
PS2 total: 423,846

I also notice that one was down from the first. Well, PS2-only; Wii+PS2 combined for Tenkaichi 2 topped this:
PS2 week 1: 327.908
PS2 total: 551,804
 
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ethelred

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
I don't know what second-weeks were like, but both PS2 and Wii versions dropped from the the previous for the first week.

As says Famitsu...
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Code: 
Tenkaichi	PS2	327,908		88,862  	33,424  	551,894
Tenkaichi 2	PS2	242,856		77,455 		30,564 		435,211
Tenkaichi 2	Wii	42,501		9,313 		- 		157,784
Tenkaichi 3	PS2	203,828		-		-		203,828
Tenkaichi 3	Wii	39,708		-		-		39,708
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Wow, it's basically almost over for CC. I wouldn't doubt the development of an International version to boost sales, as well as the impending re-releases to come, but the FFXII IZJS bomba might cause SE to reconsider...
 
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Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
cvxfreak said:
Wow, it's basically almost over for CC. I wouldn't doubt the development of an International version to boost sales, as well as the impending re-releases to come, but the FFXII IZJS bomba might cause SE to reconsider...
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Boo, hopefully a budget version will push it to a million.
 
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Pureauthor

Member
cvxfreak said:
Wow, it's basically almost over for CC. I wouldn't doubt the development of an International version to boost sales, as well as the impending re-releases to come, but the FFXII IZJS bomba might cause SE to reconsider...
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I think the 'FFXII IZJS bomba' had more to do with the 'FFXII' part than the 'IZJS' part.

(But seriously, 'International Zodiac Job System'? Yay for pretentious, idiotic naming convetions of the game industry!)
 
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tanod

when is my burrito
Microsoft should have just released Halo 3 and the Elite on the same week. That would have given them the sales bullet point they've always wanted.

"The 360 outsold the PS3 for one week!"
 
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donny2112

Member
Magicpaint said:
Crisis Core nowhere to be found in the Top 10. I wonder if a million is likely anymore.
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It was never likely, in my opinion.

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
DSL 80000
PSP 69000
Wii 24000
PS2 12000
PS3 8400
360 7100
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Wii up. Poor Microsoft. If they had only shipped 10K Elites instead of 5K, they would've made the streams cross. :(

Mrbob said:
PSP is still hanging in there with the DS.
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Jokeropia said:
Wii actually increased for the first time in like forever. Like schuelma said, strange that it would do so in a week without any releases.
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October Conference Excitement ©

Jokeropia said:
oo Kosma oo said:
Expect Sony to do great numbers when the price drop is in full effect.
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Define "great numbers".
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PS3 > Wii for a week or two. It's still possible before Super Mario Galaxy comes out.

ccbfan said:
I wondered how much the conference bump effected it considering the conference bump was probably mainly core games instead of the super casuals.
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Monster Hunter 3. The PS3 version was pretty high up on the Famitsu Most Wanted list (e.g. another core gamer measure).

Segata Sanshiro said:
There's no such thing as a "conference bump". Nobody cares about conferences that doesn't post here or 2chan.
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Are there three thousand such people in all of Japan? That's all the "bump" was.
It's more likely statistical "noise" than a strong evidence of people buying the system based on the conference. It's like when "analysts" try to say that a 10 point drop in the DJIA was due to some random economic report that came out instead of chalking it up to normal fluctuations in the market.
If the conference generated some regular news, then it might have reminded some people that the Wii still exists, though.
 
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BishopLamont

Banned
Epic week, let's see if 360 will beat PS3 in MC. PSP is also doing great numbers, it's not dropping very fast. Oh and the increased number's for the Wii I think is due to the MH3 announcement, not the conference itself. A few thousand MH3 fans picking it up is plausible.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
cvxfreak said:
Wow, it's basically almost over for CC. I wouldn't doubt the development of an International version to boost sales, as well as the impending re-releases to come, but the FFXII IZJS bomba might cause SE to reconsider...
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It's so funny how people were rambling on about how FFXII:i would push a half million and FFXII would surpass V and VI and IX and there'd be a competition between XII and X...

And then XII:i bombed and it's debatable whether XII has passed X-2.

Which is a pity because the additions for XII:i were actually pretty nice.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

Member
PS3 8400
360 7100
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If only MS had shipped more, this would have been the most epic of threads.

Does anyone know if Japan is getting the equivalent of the Premium/Elite/Arcade bundles that the US/PAL are getting this fall? Blue Dragon bundle is a good idea, but not if it comes with a fucking Core.
 
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Mithos Yggdrasill

Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
lol PS3

DSL 80000
PSP 69000
Wii 24000
PS2 12000
PS3 8400
360 7100

1.DBZ-PS2 53000(214000)
2.Pokemon MD 44000 (956000)
3.Nishimura suspense 44000
4.Gundam BC 37000 (124000)
5.LAIR 26000
6.Alcana Heart 25000
7.ASH 24000(82000)
8.Major League 2 PS2 19000(62000)
9.Kanken2 17000 (60000)
10.MPO+ 16000(169000)
12.Tashiten 15000
13.CCFF7 15000(705000)
14.DBZ-Wii 14000(49000)
19.Household economy 10000 (242000)
21.Great Bear 2 9300
25.Marist 8100 (71000)
26.Arabianz 8000
27.Namum 7400
28.PGR4 7000
30.MHP2 6300(1332000)
..... Succhi 3800
..... Izumi 3000
..... Godfather 2900
..... Opedac 2800
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PSP still down, but not too much. Wii stable. I think that it will remain like that until Mario Galaxy. DS stable too, until Dragon Quest IV.
And PS3 is descending again....
 
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ethelred

Member
By the way, when I say that Tecmo got some surprisingly good sales for the first week of Kyotaro Nishiura Mystery DS, this is what I mean in context:

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Nishiura Mystery	NDS	44,000

Ninja Gaiden		XBX	39,935
Ninja Gaiden Black	XBX	3,886
Ninja Gaiden Sigma	PS3	40,886
Dead or Alive		SAT  	92,086
Dead or Alive		PSX 	59,461 
Dead or Alive 2		PS2 	158,506
Dead or Alive 2		DC 	99,054
Dead or Alive 3		XBX 	84,471
Dead or Alive Ultimate	XBX 	52,401
Dead or Alive 4		360 	62,603
DoA X			XBX 	88,230
DoA X2			360 	45,065
Deception		PSX  	38,489
Kagero: Deception 2	PSX 	65,380
Deception 3		PSX 	39,958
Trapt			PS2 	63,461
Gallop Racer 1		PSX  	24,679
Gallop Racer 2		PSX 	77,152
Gallop Racer 3		PSX 	90,585
Gallop Racer 4		PSX 	53,917
Gallop Racer 5		PS2 	34,041
Gallop Racer 6		PS2 	49,071
Gallop Racer 7		PS2 	32,528
Gallop Racer 8		PS2 	37,512

It's certainly more than I figured it'd pull in (and hey, almost twice the first week sales for Gyakuten Saiban 1 on the GBA) -- and just on the flat numbers alone, it's stacking up pretty well against Tecmo's larger, more established series.

Does anyone know what Tecmo's expectations were or what the retail sellthrough % was?
 
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basik

Member
25.Marist 8100 (71000)
26.Arabianz 8000
27.Namum 7400
28.PGR4 7000
30.MHP2 6300(1332000)
..... Succhi 3800
..... Izumi 3000
..... Godfather 2900
..... Opedac 2800
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what system is godfather on in japan?
 
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Pureauthor

Member
ethelred said:
By the way, when I say that Tecmo got some surprisingly good sales for the first week of Kyotaro Nishiura Mystery DS, this is what I mean in context:
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ethelred, might I ask why you always use
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Loonz

Member
PS3 8400
360 7100
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Wow, nice accomplishment 360 :lol. To be almost outsold by the MS console in Japan it's pretty much the definition of failure.

I don't know what the hell is Sony doing wrong there, so terribly wrong that it was about to happen the unthinkable. This generation is strange.
 
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Sharp

Member
ethelred said:
It aligns perfectly for me. Maybe you have a shitty browser.
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Same here. You're not using IE or something, are you, Pureauthor? That's just asking for trouble.

What happened to spwolf, incidentally?
 
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