Xisiqomelir
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Cheesemeister said:Just got back from seeing Blue Man Group.
How is their new show? I might catch in Vegas this year.
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How is their new show? I might catch in Vegas this year.
ethelred said:
Zelda did good (for a launch title with a bit of overshadowing from Wii Sports), Fire Emblem did good.. I wouldn't consider Harvest Moon all that hardcore and it has to compete for Yen with a ridiculously competitive DS software selection that is clearly dominating. I'm not sure just how well Galaxy will do at all, but big core games will grow the market for core games on Wii, most likely. There's still the core gamers, and if there aren't Wii games for them, they're gonna be getting a PS3.
Nintendo discovered that many new gamers began buying Nintendo's less casual software on DS. The same may end up happening with Wii.
Just a joke.
Cheesemeister
Member
Xisiqomelir said:
It's a new show? I hadn't seen them prior. My only other opportunity had been on a family trip a few years ago when we passed through Vegas and I couldn't sell the idea of paying $100 per person. =(
That said, it was freaking awesome. It was like a big party. The Orlando show is more reasonably-priced, too.
Pureauthor
Member
Weekly Sales-Age Saga Update
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JoshuaJSlone
Member
Going with Famitsu...Agent Icebeezy said:
27 weeks
DC: 629K
GCN: 1.23M
30 weeks
DC: 633K
GCN: 1.30M
He seemed to be, until he brought in Zelda and Fire Emblem.test_account said:
Cosmonaut X
Member
Do we have official figures for Wii games to help inform the discussion a little? The only (rough) figures I have are:
Wii Sport - 1,600,000+
Wii Play - 1,300,000+
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 450,000+
Warioware: Smooth Moves - 430,000+
Super Paper Mario - 400,000+
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree - 160,000+
Fire Emblem X: Goddess of Dawn - 140,000+
Bleach - 60,000+
Elebits - 50,000+
Excite Truck - 50,000+
Red Steel - 30,000+
Trauma Centre: Second Opinion - 20,000+
Bomberland Wii - 20,000+
Crayon Shin-Chan - 20,000+
Cooking Mama: Cook Off - <20,000
Wing Island - <5,000
Necro-Nesia - <5,000
Any corrections, or any more?
Wii Sport - 1,600,000+
Wii Play - 1,300,000+
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 450,000+
Warioware: Smooth Moves - 430,000+
Super Paper Mario - 400,000+
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree - 160,000+
Fire Emblem X: Goddess of Dawn - 140,000+
Bleach - 60,000+
Elebits - 50,000+
Excite Truck - 50,000+
Red Steel - 30,000+
Trauma Centre: Second Opinion - 20,000+
Bomberland Wii - 20,000+
Crayon Shin-Chan - 20,000+
Cooking Mama: Cook Off - <20,000
Wing Island - <5,000
Necro-Nesia - <5,000
Any corrections, or any more?
test_account
XP-39C²
JoshuaJSlone said:
Oh, he mentioned those as poor sales? I didnt notice that, on which page did he say it?
BrodiemanTTR
Member
Cosmonaut X said:
Didn't DBZ cross 100k?
Cosmonaut X said:
I think the ONE PIECE anime game has sold more than 15k or so.
I thought Elebits did worse. 50k doesn't strike me as absolutely terrible. Specially if we consider that good 3rd party games in nintendo consoles can do REALLY bad (Baten Kaitos origins anyone? 4k LTD? )
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128989Cosmonaut X said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
(Paraphrased)test_account said:
ethelred: RE4... third party bomba
Parl: Probably less so once more good non-simple games come out to draw attention away from Wii Sports
ethelred: What if they they fail like Zelda and Fire Emblem?
Cosmonaut X said:
I think you forgot to mention Dragon Ball Z. Anyway, Wii software has been slow for the first half of the year. You cant expect that games like Wing island or Necro Nesia will do well. Im pretty sure that games like Re UC, Dragon Quest Swords, No More Heroes. Mario and Smash brothers will do pretty amazing numbers. Wiisports will prbably sell quite good for another year or 2 but thats the reason why a lot of new people buy the Wii.
test_account
XP-39C²
JoshuaJSlone said:
Ah ok, thanks
Those 2 games surely arent failures. I'm alittle suprised that Zelda:TP "only" sold like 450k (some GC versions too, so probly more like 500k+) tho. I thought it was a million seller by now, or how old are those stats posted above? Isnt Zelda mega popular in Japan? I always thought that. Is it then possible that the same thing will happend to Super Mario Galaxy?SouthernDragon
Member
Why is Trauma Center so low?
DQ Swords is near. It it fails to get respectable sales, then Wii really has a problem selling third party software in Japan.
Let's note, however, how little ****ing appeal third party stuff released on Wii so far has to Wii Sports gamers. Where are sports games? Where are sword games up to now?
Let's note, however, how little ****ing appeal third party stuff released on Wii so far has to Wii Sports gamers. Where are sports games? Where are sword games up to now?
MasterMFauli
Banned
Cosmonaut X said:
Whoah, why didnt those Japanese buy my RE5-killer? :-/
Pureauthor
Member
MasterMFauli said:
They're waiting until RE5 comes out before snatching it up - it'll make the triumph all the more sweeter.
Eteric Rice
Member
I doubt DQSwords will fail. If it did, THEN I'd start to worry.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Zelda isn't as big in Japan as it has been elsewhere, though TP is down from Wind Waker, which was down from Ocarina of Time. Several reasons to believe Super Mario Galaxy will do better, though:test_account said:
*New Super Mario Bros. makes Mario particularly hot recently.
*Super Mario 64 was more successful than any Zelda game in Japan.
*Even SM64 DS reached a million, which I don't think any portable Zelda has done.
*Not competing at launch with Wii Sports; will instead have a userbase much larger than Sunshine did at release.
Again, here's a list through May 27:The Sphinx said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128989
ksamedi said:
Let me push it a bit. Let's assume that most of them do fail. It still does not mean there can be no healthy ecosystem of games like Wii Sports (with SPORTS in them). SSG did not bomb all that badly.
Right now it is a bt like trying to feed JRPGs to Halo fans. You really need to see games at least somewhat similar to what people bought their consoles for.
Eteric Rice
Member
ksamedi said:
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Before anyone makes a big stink about this, I would like to point out that in both the USA and Japan it took a lot of word of mouth to get Gyakuten Saiban/Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney to get really successful.
Assuming stock trader shun is like Phoenix Wright in terms of addictiveness and amazing storytelling, odds are that word of mouth will keep the sales up for a while.
ThirdEye said:
Compared to the PS3?
PS3 through 3/25: (Famitsu)
1. Gundam Musou 248,761
2. Ridge Racer 7 133,991
3. Gundam: Target in Sight 131,111
4. Resistance 116,657
5. Armored Core 4 80,813
6. Virtua Fighter 5 80,257
7. Genji 53,780
8. Motorstorm 53,235
9. Enchanted Arm 35,790
10. Need for Speed: Carbon 34,921
11. F1 Championship Edition 33,849
12. Sonic 30,390
13. Mah-jongg 25,036
14. Power Smash 3 18,324
15. SEGA Golf Club 13,978
Total: 1,090,893
HW (3/25, MC): 794,492
360 through 3/11 (some small weeks for games missing): (Famitsu)
1. Blue Dragon 176,392
2. DOA 4 105,331
3. Ridge Racer 6 72,129
4. Dead Rising 61,626
5. Lost Planet 60,861
6. DOAX 2 60,178
7. Gears of War 55,556
8. NNN 38,019
9. Idol Master 35,767
10. Rumble Roses 29,187
11. Chikyuu Boueigun 26,593
12. PDZ 26,085
13. PGR3 25,058
14. Culdcept 24,102
15. WE11 20,931
Total: 817,815
HW (3/11, MC): 333,424
Like I said,
donny2112 said:I know that hardware-wise, PS3 >>> 360, but software-wise, I'm thinking that the 360 is really holding its own. I'd be very curious to hear what Square-Enix thought of the 360 software sales.
Obviously this is more a case of PS3 doing horrible than the 360 doing okay, but the numbers are still the numbers.
ShockingAlberto
Member
NMH has a good chance of failing.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
test_account is fun.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Maybe he'll sacrifice himself to this thread in the name of Mono.Jokeropia said:
TheKingsCrown
Banned
Can we please determine a sales number that is officially "failing", because selling 400k of a game might seem like a failure compared to New Super Mario Bros., but was it a profitable game to make?
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
JoshuaJSlone said:
That's what I think too. Zelda is down since a lot of time and Twilight Princess "bad sales" are not due to the Wii entirely. I think that it is time for Nintendo to change Zelda's formula.
donny2112 said:Compared to the PS3?
PS3 through 3/25: (Famitsu)
1. Gundam Musou 248,761
2. Ridge Racer 7 133,991
3. Gundam: Target in Sight 131,111
4. Resistance 116,657
5. Armored Core 4 80,813
6. Virtua Fighter 5 80,257
7. Genji 53,780
8. Motorstorm 53,235
9. Enchanted Arm 35,790
10. Need for Speed: Carbon 34,921
11. F1 Championship Edition 33,849
12. Sonic 30,390
13. Mah-jongg 25,036
14. Power Smash 3 18,324
15. SEGA Golf Club 13,978
Total: 1,090,893
HW (3/25, MC): 794,492
360 through 3/11 (some small weeks for games missing): (Famitsu)
1. Blue Dragon 176,392
2. DOA 4 105,331
3. Ridge Racer 6 72,129
4. Dead Rising 61,626
5. Lost Planet 60,861
6. DOAX 2 60,178
7. Gears of War 55,556
8. NNN 38,019
9. Idol Master 35,767
10. Rumble Roses 29,187
11. Chikyuu Boueigun 26,593
12. PDZ 26,085
13. PGR3 25,058
14. Culdcept 24,102
15. WE11 20,931
Total: 817,815
HW (3/11, MC): 333,424
Wow from a 3rd party developer perspective the 360 and PS3 don't look too different at all.
zelda was obviously targeted towards western aesthetic sensibilities.
no more heroes is the same - suda is constantly talking about western dev influences and targeting foreign markets.
dq:swords will do well if it's a decent game, and not shabby even if it isn't. it'll move lots of hardware too.
no more heroes is the same - suda is constantly talking about western dev influences and targeting foreign markets.
dq:swords will do well if it's a decent game, and not shabby even if it isn't. it'll move lots of hardware too.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I think we already determined 300K to be that number. No more, no less.TheKingsCrown said:
I'm guessing because it is a port of a DS game which I believe sold pretty well in Japan, better than in the states where I had a lot of trouble even finding it. In contrast, Trauma Center for Wii has sold very well in North America I believe. So it could be that people just didn't want to buy the Wii version of a game they already owned on DS at full Wii price.FlightOfHeaven said:
WW sell through to consumers, I'd say, roughly:Nuclear Muffin said:
360 - 9.5 million
Wii - 7.5 million
PS3 - 3.5 million
NDS - 42.5 million
Yeah, the PSP games aren't as high as expected, maybe they'll pick up over the weekend.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Harvest Moon has sold okay. I think ~80K lifetime is possible, which isn't bad for Wii's first game. The DS games have increased healthily over the last couple of years, so I expect the same for Wii.
Eteric Rice
Member
ziran said:
As more and more of a fanbase for it comes to the Wii, they'll likely sell better.
Phife Dawg
Member
Well that depends totally on the game. How much dev time was spend, how big the team was, if cutscenes etc. were outsourced, marketing and all that stuff. It's true though that the unbelievable success of some DS software has pushed the bar up high and a lot of people seem to expect big budget software titles to replicate that success.TheKingsCrown said:
Zelda being in development for such a long time and occupying a pretty large team in the process could be considered a failure if it sold comparatively to the japanese level worldwide. I'd consider it a failure in Japan. But as others have said, it was definetly geared towards western taste. Hell, even I thought it was too brown overall :lol .
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
No, some guy a few months back (lancestern?) used to say 300K. No matter what.Wiitard said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Phife Dawg said:
400,000 units at 20 bucks a unit is 8 million dollars. Assuming that Zelda sold similarly in Europe and North America, that'd be 24 million dollars. This would almost certainly exceed the break-even point; this also does not include profit made on Wii systems sold because of Zelda.
So, economically, even if Zelda did the same worldwide as it did in Japan, it would not be a failure. Certainly in terms of expectations, Zelda was at least a small disappointment in Japan.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Stumpokapow said:
Wii version alone is over 477,000 in Japan.
Wii/GC combined over 2.5 mil in NA, over 3.5 mil WW i'd say.
What was Wind Waker in a comparable time frame?