Impeccable
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It looks like it's time to force myself to start loving shooters and sports games, not much success outside of them these days.
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NPD November 2012 Results [Up6: Black Ops 2, Halo 4, Most Wanted, Assassin's Creed 3]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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next year has
the last of us
beyond: two souls
sly cooper 4
god of fwour
puppeteer
the last guardian (presumably it still exists)
it's a good sendoff for the system, but they're still going to be hurting. considering they're leaving the vita where it is (as a media moleculemobile), they're probably gearing up behind the ps4 more than anything.
Aquamarine
Member
Oh my god, I read the data wrong because I was skimming over it too quickly. It SHOULD be FIFA 20, you're right. I said there might be errors in that list.
I don't think anyone actually believed that Halo 4 would outsell BO2 on 360, or at least not anyone who follows NPD's at all
. That clears that up, but BO2 being #1 could still put it in a pretty wide range under/over previous years.PSN/XBLA/Steam got you covered.
HigherLevel
Member
Considering the next Xbox will probably launch next year I don't think Halo 4 will have the lifetime sales of the previous games.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Wasn't sure if it was for the US. You guys used to be well behind us...
What about Versus XIII.
fly high ~ayunite~
Member
Feel so sorry for the industry and all those within it
grimshawish
Banned
Social gaming has meant it'll be harder than ever to move people to a new console.
Why play the new new thing on a new console when I can play the new thing on my current console which all my friends have and I play as a way to socialise with them?
Seriously. COD is an annual game now to refresh and offer a new collective experience for these players. Thats why it sells so well.
I think this is going to make it tricky to sell next gen consoles to people without a big big software push to 'force' them to upgrade.
This is obvious every gen, but I think its going to have to be forceful from Sony/MS.
If they don't make that investment then they might lose third party support for the new systems, sure they might release on them, but they'll also release on the PS360.
Nintendo have their first parties, I think Sony/MS need to be able to come out with theres at launch then pull back to let third parties take the main earnings of the userbase.
Likewise whoever has the best content will get the best sales by multiplications; as they are giving the most reason to leave the social environment of the previous consoles.
Unless theres a BIG online change for either of them that is. Sony is in the best position for this.
I think it has to be PS4, guess we'll see how WiiU does, but its a serious threat to them in Japan.
Why play the new new thing on a new console when I can play the new thing on my current console which all my friends have and I play as a way to socialise with them?
Seriously. COD is an annual game now to refresh and offer a new collective experience for these players. Thats why it sells so well.
I think this is going to make it tricky to sell next gen consoles to people without a big big software push to 'force' them to upgrade.
This is obvious every gen, but I think its going to have to be forceful from Sony/MS.
If they don't make that investment then they might lose third party support for the new systems, sure they might release on them, but they'll also release on the PS360.
Nintendo have their first parties, I think Sony/MS need to be able to come out with theres at launch then pull back to let third parties take the main earnings of the userbase.
Likewise whoever has the best content will get the best sales by multiplications; as they are giving the most reason to leave the social environment of the previous consoles.
Unless theres a BIG online change for either of them that is. Sony is in the best position for this.
I think it has to be PS4, guess we'll see how WiiU does, but its a serious threat to them in Japan.
Aquamarine
Member
You expect Versus XIII in 2013? Ha!
Expect a 2014 multiplatform release at the very end of the PS3 / 360 lifecycle.
Welcome to the fun side of gaming.
creamsugar
Member
ps3 < wii + ds
See the first post.
See the first post.
New consoles and new original big IPs are needed to revive interest in the industry.
People cannot continue to play COD and AC forever.
Yeah, they have your 2D indie platformers covered by the dozens.
Impeccable
Member
PSN has been a saviour for me this generation.
I think I have 60+ games in my download list. It's been dry to my interests for awhile.
790k seems a high cealing compared to what Microsoft seemed to imply (650k). You could have used Vita numbers unless numbers are >700k
Syphon Filter
Member
I don't think anyone actually believed that Halo 4 would outsell BO2 on 360, or at least not anyone who follows NPD's at all
someone told me h4 will sell more but i think it was a youtube comment.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
If I had to predict I'd say almost every one of those will bomb. The Last of Us is the only one that could buck the trend. God of War will probably be a mild hit, which would be a disappointment for the franchise. Beyond Two Souls, Sly Cooper, Puppeteer, all mega bombs.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
You port now to build and define an audience. That's how COD went from COD3 selling 20k on PS3 in 2006 to Blops 2 selling over 1m this month.
Don't worry, next gen will have that thing that this gen lacked, and in spades.
Wii U might have helped soften the blow. The industry's been down 20%-30% YOY in previous months. But yeah, it's still a bad situation.
He said less than 790k so who knows what the actual number is. we need better clues lol.
polyh3dron
Banned
Wii U sold out? Stock seems to be replenishing quickly then. Saw a few Deluxes and the white ones in stock at the Hollywood Target recently.
Mr. B Natural
Member
People that buy consoles day 1 are the fans. Of course mario's attach rate is going to be high...even though it's not nearly as high as it should be considering we know what a zelda day one release could do. And what exactly is mario competing with right now? ZombiU? Now is the time that attach rates would be high. As the userbase increases and varies, they go down. Calling out attach rates about sales or fatigue is absolutely pointless on all accounts. Nobody divided all Wii game sales in half because it had twice the consoles sold or quadruples the Vita's software sales, and they shouldn't...it would be a completely dumb and desperate thing to do.
Nintendo released its biggest weapon on Day 1 and the system did not sell out, and you can say the exact same thing for the 3ds this holiday season. That alone shows fatigue for the 2d mario experience and for mario as the mascot for the brand: the never ending charting plumber with long long legs...except he's not charting anymore..nor is mario kart. Fatigue? Impossible.
In 2006 or even 2010, if someone were to ask, "If Nintendo released a new console and put out a 2d mario day one to help sell it, would it sell out?" You would have been laughed at on Gaf for asking such a stupid question.
Edit: And H4 didn't stand a chance because of Reach's reception. People buy (or don't but) the sequels based on their how they felt about the previous iteration.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
PS3 anywhere close to 790k seems pretty good.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
Member
Microsoft said "nearly 2x" not " 2x"
so.. ps3 is anywhere in the range of >630K x <790K
Portugeezer
Member
How does this "nearly 2x" bullshit work?
Edit: oh he means separately, and PS3 spoiled it lol!
Edit: oh he means separately, and PS3 spoiled it lol!
I can attest to this through personal anecdotes.
My own sister, a gamer, thought it was a new off-tv dual screen repackaging of the wii.
What the fuck.
First 8 days.
That's how the 4-4-5 retail calendar is.
It's not really based on the actual dates. It just keeps going 4-4-5 and is eventually corrected by a 53 week year.
Aquamarine
Member
At least Sony are supporting their console with first party titles. In comparison MS don't seem to give a shit. Although with sales like that perhaps it makes sense to cream off third party license fees.
Industry is in for a decline. Especially if next gen is just the same games we have been playing except bigger and shinier. This was a big gen and there was a lot of expansion in gaming so now it is only natural for things to fizzle out a bit. Not to mention that a lot of people are getting their gaming enertainment through internet and phones in addition to other types of entertainment.
And that's happening in January 2013. So stay alert.
It's closer to 790k, if not creamsugar wouldn't use Wiii+NDS
Microsoft said "nearly 2x" not " 2x"
Then it depends on what Microsft means for 'nearly'.
If PS3 sold 750k which sounds more reasonable considering the 525k units sold during BF, double that is 1.5m which in my mind is not nearly 1.26m.
But maybe I gave them too much credit for being realistic in their claims
the system has been selling out at a decent pace throughout the month, but they haven't been impossible to find. it's not like the 360 or wii launch where it was incredibly hard to find, and i think it'll have a pretty slow 2013, prompting some major changes in the latter half of the year to get things moving. expect some months where it sells worse than the ps3 in america.
If thats the case then what the heck was Greenberg going on about nearly "2x". Maybe he's not good at math lol.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Yeah I'd love to play all of them, I was just talking about sales. Sony has the best and most diverse 1st party studios in the industry, imo.