NormalFish
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I think dungeon crawlers are in a good state right now, and appeal to those who prefer older schools of game design. Bit too anime at times but generally good.
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IrishNinja
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it's funny that anime is the style that saved some 2D fighters & SHMUPs...like, it's hard to find entries in niche genres that didn't get coupled with that
NormalFish
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yeah... My theory is that the people really in to that sort of anime (moe, skimpily outfitted girls, etc.) just buy anything, so it guarantees sales. Madness how widespread it is, though.
There are many reasons to prefer retro games to modern games, but for me the main one is ease of recording them for youtube playthroughs. Having games under an hour or 2 puts less stress on myself and allow me to make more of them easier and faster as well even if some games are so hard it'll take me hours before perfecting them.
NormalFish
Banned
Experience games are sometimes pretty cliche anime, but some are great. Looking forward to Stranger of Sword City.
PumpkinSpice
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Thanks for all the responses.
I've been meaning to give an Ys game a shot but I haven't seen a great sale lately. There were some on Steam but I'd kinda rather play on Vita.
Yakuza I tried 4 on PS3 when I had that from PS+ before I cancelled that service. I wasn't too impressed from what I played (an hour?). What is it about these games that you like?
I tired Trails in the Sky 1 PSP on my Vita but I got really tired of all the talking. The battle system is a bit confusing at first, seems like it could be neat, but I don't really like all the dialog. I might give it another try at some point.
I've been meaning to give an Ys game a shot but I haven't seen a great sale lately. There were some on Steam but I'd kinda rather play on Vita.
Yakuza I tried 4 on PS3 when I had that from PS+ before I cancelled that service. I wasn't too impressed from what I played (an hour?). What is it about these games that you like?
IrishNinja
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everything
Yeah, I'm the same. I only play retro systems now. Through I do have a PS3, but only kept it for Netflix lol.
Have you tried any of the Souls games? Rocket League? Splatoon?
I feel like there are a lot of great games being made. Maybe you'll enjoy VR when it comes along? I found DK2 to be absolutely mind-blowing.... like Super Mario 64 for the first time all over again. And the retail headsets are supposed to be even better than that.
It's great to appreciate the classics. But I think it's also important to try and enjoy new games.
It's true that the "cinematic" games suck if you're a retro gamer who is looking for pure gameplay, but it's easy enough to avoid those.
theSlacker
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The Wario game on it is legit, and it's a real shame it hasn't been ported to anything else.
How do you keep yours in good condition? I've gone through 4 VBoy units and all of them get garbled graphics after a while.
P.S. If you managed to buy one of Richard Hutchinson's flash carts, be sure to play the Bound High prototype. It's my favorite game on Virtual Boy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ-bV6y-gJI
socksfelloff
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I'm in the same boat when it comes to new games. 2015 was mostly a retro/Nintendo year for me. I did enjoy bloodborne and axiom verge( both games are arguably retro in different ways) on the ps4 though. Transformers devastation was great fun as well. One thing I find odd is that Indy games are starting to appeal to me. listening to the giant bomb GOTY podcasts made me realize there's so many great Indy games I missed out on. Hack net, ori, undertale,her story just to name a few. I really think shovel knight is what made me realize I preferred retro games over modern games. I bought that on a whim, at launch, and I fell in love with it.
For the most part I've been a PC gamer my whole life. As a result my 8/16/32/64 bit backlog is... Daunting. Hell I didn't even start playing console games till the 360/PS3 and that's the gen that killed it for me.
Long story short: play what you find fun. There's lots of new games on the horizon that look interesting to me ( pun intended) but I'm no
Longer excited by them and I'm no longer disappointed when they bomb.
For the most part I've been a PC gamer my whole life. As a result my 8/16/32/64 bit backlog is... Daunting. Hell I didn't even start playing console games till the 360/PS3 and that's the gen that killed it for me.
Long story short: play what you find fun. There's lots of new games on the horizon that look interesting to me ( pun intended) but I'm no
Longer excited by them and I'm no longer disappointed when they bomb.
davidwhangchoi
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damn do you own everything =P don't tell me you have the Nintendo super famicom CD at your place ;P
Shadowman16
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Has anyone else here got the SNK Arcade Collection Volume 0 (the pre Neo Geo games). I've been playing the Asian copy I got this week and while some of the (limited) options in the collection are in Japanese I notice that certain games (the oldest) like Ikari Warriors don't seem to allow for continues. Is that the case? Is there no secret option menu to tweak lives, continues and difficulty? As these games are brutal (glad I love difficult games!). Seriously, playing stuff like P.O.W, Ikari Warriors 1&3, Vanguard and all of them are pretty unforgiving from the get go (and in some spots, unfair). Plus the controls aren't technically perfect on Ikari Warriors 1&3 thanks to the lack of the rotary joystick.
It seems like a great collection, but unlike the Capcom Generations Collections (which I felt had limited options as it were) there are even less options in this collection. Pity as I'd personally have loved difficulty and continue options as a standard for all the games in the collection.
It seems like a great collection, but unlike the Capcom Generations Collections (which I felt had limited options as it were) there are even less options in this collection. Pity as I'd personally have loved difficulty and continue options as a standard for all the games in the collection.
entremet
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Yeah the indie scene plus crowdfunding has been a godsend for me.
I still enjoy Nintendo games, as they haven't succumbed to cinema AAA style gaming, old school JRPGs and stuff like Axiom Verge, Shovel Knight, and the upcoming Indivisible.
Added with huge retro catalogs to explore and I'm pretty set with this hobby for life lol.
That said, I love many new games too. It's just that majority of the AAA stuff doesn't speak to me. And that's fine. I have enough games to play.
D.Lo
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I'll get anything that is interesting and has good games on it!
blast processed
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Incoming wall of photos from my stop at the Nintendo World Store. I've never been here before and I'm not sure if they rotate these pages on display or not, but here goes.
davidwhangchoi
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^ nice =) if you're passing by 53rd and 6th don't forget to try the chicken and rice plate. really good for 7 bucks.
blast processed
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How about 52nd and 9th Totto Ramen? I went for lunch yesterday. Awesome food!
davidwhangchoi
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yum! yeah ramen hit's the spot.
Halal Guys cart is pretty famous but nothing special, since you're in the vicinity it's an interesting grab to experience since the weather is so nice out. (just don't put the hot sauce on, it'll kill you)
also Hoboken NJ has major major good food. if that's near you
sixteen-bit
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entremet
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Just heard of Piko Interactive via Metal Jesus on Youtube.
They make full cartridge based games--NES/SNES/Gen/GBA, with manuals and boxes and all.
They actually get the rights and do it legit so they're priced accordingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjcDvpSOdE
They make full cartridge based games--NES/SNES/Gen/GBA, with manuals and boxes and all.
They actually get the rights and do it legit so they're priced accordingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjcDvpSOdE
That's amazing.
entremet
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That's why they're a bit pricey as well and Metal Jesus mentions.
I've always found selling repros based on copyrighted stuff a bit shady personally.
I recently ordered an AV Famicom but it doesn't come with any cables (I'm pretty sure this is how they were sold originally). I'll use the composite cable I got with my Super Famicom (unless I'm mistaken, this is the best I can hope for without modding it?), but I'm wondering what power supply to use.
I'm in the UK and have read that it should work fine with a model one Mega Drive power supply. Is this right?
I'm in the UK and have read that it should work fine with a model one Mega Drive power supply. Is this right?
Thats what I use and it works fine.
Shadowman16
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I use a model 1 MD power supply on my AV Famicom and it works perfectly fine as well.
I've been into old 8bit computers recently, and many of them had their software on tape. I've been looking at this beauty to load them but it's a tad out of my price range for a cassette player. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vtg-SO...-Tape-Player-Recorder-Portable-/281891571786?
dem VU-meters :love
dem VU-meters :love
So every time i go to youtube to see a review or gameplay footage, I get recommended this terrible "MetalJesusRocks"-channel that I always hated but for some reason have an incredible viewership. I wonder why youtube feel the need to shove this old rocker down my throat all the time, could it have to do with him paying for advertisement? So annoying.
D.Lo
Member
YES I love this stuff. 80s industrial design hnnnng.
So do cassette players work across computers? Like I could get one that works with MSX and C64 or something?
Pretty much. Data was stored as audio and it's just a matter of figuring out how to feed mono audio in/out to the computer. Spectrum used two standard Jack sockets so it's cool, Amstrad and MSX had a single DIN so it's only a matter of finding/making the right cable. I'm not familiar with the C64, but it seems you need an additional board between the cassette player and the computer, as the Datassette Player had some specific electronics in it.
Some computers had an additional control pin that, if the player was compatible, would stop the cassette once the program was successfully loaded. But it's always optional.
He seems like a really nice guy, like hang out and have a beer sort of guy. I like him because I know he truly enjoy the games he reviews. I think that comes across in his videos.
Oh as you're into MSX, you know about SymbOS, right? I love the idea of having a modern multitasking desktop on an old Z80 computer.
I don't have an MSX but I've been playing with the CPC version,which rocks its four colours.
The latest beta has online capabilities (games and messaging) on the MSX. So cool.
[edit] It's MSX2 only, not MSX. Sorry for the confusion.
I don't have an MSX but I've been playing with the CPC version,which rocks its four colours.
The latest beta has online capabilities (games and messaging) on the MSX. So cool.
[edit] It's MSX2 only, not MSX. Sorry for the confusion.
Every time I see you post I agree with you. I was subscribed to MetalJesus for over a year when his channel was small, then he did a series of views with a certain female guest and they kept making pre-teen lewd sexual jokes while counting down best video games and I had to check out.
I've been back to his channel a few times, but what always nope out of there when I see his NES composite video recordings.
D.Lo
Member
Ha yeah. Man nerds do some crazy stuff for fun.
Whenever I get around to getting an MSX flash cart I'll try stuff like that.
Shadowman16
Member
So I finally managed to tick off a game I've wanted to finish for quite a while yesterday - Ghosts n Goblins (arcade version).
I've only ever managed to clear the Famicom version, and had always wanted to clear the arcade original as well... I love this game so much though, even with a couple of the faults the game has. Its tough, but damn is the game so fun to play when you get the hang of it!
I had a weird problem with my playthrough - all the online guides suggest if you defeat the level 6 bosses without the cross weapon you should be booted back to stage 5. However the game (Saturn port) booted me back to the start of level 6 instead. Level 6 does not have much in the way of weapon drops so it became pretty much impossible to clear. So I just restarted the game from scratch instead as it was quicker in the long run!
The cross/shield sucks though. Not as bad as the torch maybe but the range is feeble at best. However at least it lets you destroy enemy projectiles so its not all bad! Still the fight against the dragon early on in stage 6 was a pain.
My other pet peeve was with the duck controls. Arthur doesn't automatically rise when you press left/right which is a pain. You also can't jump left/right when ducking, you'll just do a neutral jump. That took a ton of getting used to, it was a pain in the beginning taking hits when I wanted to leap left/right to avoid enemies or attacks.
Overall though once I got used to the above I really got into the game. Despite the second playhrough apparently raising the difficulty, I actually ran through the stages with no issue up to stage 5, which still took a few tries. The final boss is laughably easy though, in fact none of the bosses are actually fairly straight forward, which is a relief really after how challenging each stage is!
I've only ever managed to clear the Famicom version, and had always wanted to clear the arcade original as well... I love this game so much though, even with a couple of the faults the game has. Its tough, but damn is the game so fun to play when you get the hang of it!
I had a weird problem with my playthrough - all the online guides suggest if you defeat the level 6 bosses without the cross weapon you should be booted back to stage 5. However the game (Saturn port) booted me back to the start of level 6 instead. Level 6 does not have much in the way of weapon drops so it became pretty much impossible to clear. So I just restarted the game from scratch instead as it was quicker in the long run!
The cross/shield sucks though. Not as bad as the torch maybe but the range is feeble at best. However at least it lets you destroy enemy projectiles so its not all bad! Still the fight against the dragon early on in stage 6 was a pain.
My other pet peeve was with the duck controls. Arthur doesn't automatically rise when you press left/right which is a pain. You also can't jump left/right when ducking, you'll just do a neutral jump. That took a ton of getting used to, it was a pain in the beginning taking hits when I wanted to leap left/right to avoid enemies or attacks.
Overall though once I got used to the above I really got into the game. Despite the second playhrough apparently raising the difficulty, I actually ran through the stages with no issue up to stage 5, which still took a few tries. The final boss is laughably easy though, in fact none of the bosses are actually fairly straight forward, which is a relief really after how challenging each stage is!
socksfelloff
Member
I like metaljesus as well but lately I find myself not even looking at his videos. Most of the time I realise be doesn't have any idea what hes talking about. It's pretty clear he is playing games long enough to capture some composite footage to shit out another video.
And my god. Running everything through some massive composite splitter on a modern TV...shit. At least go back to the crt.
IrishNinja
Member
^ that's a really good point, especially with these things being buried in community too
Haha that is interesting and fun to hear!
Im sure he is a nice guy and all, I just dont understand why a metal jesus-guy would have anything interesting to say about video games, that "gimmick" makes me way less open to check out his channel - and youtube is still showing him down my throat.
Anyways, an amazing amount of disgracing posts in the reaction thread to the retail Sega 3D Classics. Also very interesting to see that all the members of Retro-gaf was happy - while a ton of names Ive never seen before was unhappy. Shows you who's the connoisseurs
PumpkinSpice
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There's a youtube channel blocker extension for Chrome that's good for getting rid of his channel, AlphaOmegaBarf, and all the other garbage game related channels.
But bro there's a Sega Genesis Collection on PSP for like $2 on sale with perfect emulation, or even just emulate on your phone for free with enhanced widescreen HD 2xSaI scaling, and how dare they even make this for 3DS it should be on Steam, and where's my Shenmue HD Collection exclusively for PS4????Anyways, an amazing amount of disgracing posts in the reaction thread to the retail Sega 3D Classics. Also very interesting to see that all the members of Retro-gaf was happy - while a ton of names Ive never seen before was unhappy. Shows you who's the connoisseurs
entremet
Member
Almost all Youtubers use composite for retro. The others just use emulation.
RGB and Framemeister is really inside baseball stuff. Only the MLIG guys and Phonedork do RGB.
I like MJR. I think with YT you just need dial down your expectations. These are amateurs and it shows. But I'm a huge YT fiend in general.
The MLiG guys are also pro video producers and spend hours on their videos.
Haha that is interesting and fun to hear!
Im sure he is a nice guy and all, I just dont understand why a metal jesus-guy would have anything interesting to say about video games, that "gimmick" makes me way less open to check out his channel - and youtube is still showing him down my throat.
Anyways, an amazing amount of disgracing posts in the reaction thread to the retail Sega 3D Classics. Also very interesting to see that all the members of Retro-gaf was happy - while a ton of names Ive never seen before was unhappy. Shows you who's the connoisseurs
It's just the YT algorithm. You must watch a lot of games videos.
Turn off Autoplay.