Grampa Simpson
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It doesn't exist if you don't provide a link.Eteric Rice said:
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Official April 2007 NPD Prediction Thread
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Eteric Rice
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I don't think it shows anything, really. I was to busy laughing my ass off to notice. I'll pm it to anyone that wants, though.
Eteric Rice
Member
Bildi said:
Hah, it doesn't really show anything. Still not work safe, though. :lol
Anyway, continue on with predictions.
I know what video you're talking about. The one where the guy uses the girl as a wiimote to play tennis? It's mostly SFW, and it's just a joke video. :lolEteric Rice said:
You can search Kotaku if you want to watch the video. It has probably been posted on GAF already anyway.
Eteric Rice
Member
jvalioli said:
Yeah, that's it! He's trying to decide if he wants to have sex or play Wii Tennis, so he just swings her around like a Wii-mote. :lol
The Interrobanger
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DS - 517k
Wii - 412k
X360 - 221k
PSP - 121k
GBA - 93k
PS3 - 82k
Wii - 412k
X360 - 221k
PSP - 121k
GBA - 93k
PS3 - 82k
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Prediction:
DS - 520k
Wii - 290k
PS2 - 240k
PSP - 210k
X360 - 170k
GBA - 120k
PS3 - 105k
NGC - 20k
XBOX - 150
DS - 520k
Wii - 290k
PS2 - 240k
PSP - 210k
X360 - 170k
GBA - 120k
PS3 - 105k
NGC - 20k
XBOX - 150
speculawyer
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Bildi said:Here's one I did. I didn't include 360 sales prior to November because I thought the graph was more useful this way (and I couldn't find a reliable figure).
Here's the NPD sales numbers I used:
Code:360 Wii PS3 Nov 2006 511,000 476,000 197,000 Dec 2006 1,100,000 604,200 490,700 Jan 2007 294,000 436,000 244,000 Feb 2007 228,000 335,000 127,000 Mar 2007 199,000 259,000 130,000
That is a very interesting graph. The conventional wisdom is that the Wii is completely dominating . . . but when you look at that graph, you can see that the xbox 360 has outsold the Wii since its launch. I forgot that. Of course, the Wii will probably pass the 360 soon but people that think the Wii is completely destroying the 360 are dead wrong.
Version 3.0
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speculawyer said:
It's been supply constrained, and the 360 isn't...one of the benefits to launching a year earlier. Compare the Wii's first 5 months with the 360's, and you'll see it "dominating":
Also remember that the Wii is performing similarly in 2 other territories, something the 360 didn't do and still isn't doing.
chibcicylist
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That's one way to spin the numbers.speculawyer said:
MirageDwarf
Member
Pokemon - 2.4 mil
speculawyer
Member
Leondexter said:It's been supply constrained, and the 360 isn't...one of the benefits to launching a year earlier. Compare the Wii's first 5 months with the 360's, and you'll see it "dominating":
Also remember that the Wii is performing similarly in 2 other territories, something the 360 didn't do and still isn't doing.
You seem to forget that the xbox 360 was also supplied constrained until the April/May after its launch. Ooops.
Yes, worldwide the Wii is dominating, but it isn't crushing the 360 in NA like many seem to think.
chibcicylist
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speculawyer said:
But the Wii is(still) also supply constrained with even bigger monthly shipments than the 360 ever saw.
You mean this video:Eteric Rice said:
(warning: bad humor ahead)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i19tcDpD3tc
Hollywood_mIRC
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Bildi said:Here's one I did. I didn't include 360 sales prior to November because I thought the graph was more useful this way (and I couldn't find a reliable figure).
Here's the NPD sales numbers I used:
Code:360 Wii PS3 Nov 2006 511,000 476,000 197,000 Dec 2006 1,100,000 604,200 490,700 Jan 2007 294,000 436,000 244,000 Feb 2007 228,000 335,000 127,000 Mar 2007 199,000 259,000 130,000
That December month really gave the 360 a huge buffer zone. Chances are Nintendo catches the 360 from the Wii's launch to current dates within the next two months (maybe one depending on how many Wii's Nintendo got out). Then Nintendo can cut into that head start the 360 got for a year, I don't know what that number is, but it will be interesting if Nintendo can catch them in the US on an overall scale, with Microsoft having a year advantage. Month to month sales are going to be interesting in the future. I'm waiting for one of the companies to drop the price of their console, which will have a trickle down affect and then things can really heat up. Nintendo has destroyed all expectations though, that much is obvious.
speculawyer
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chibcicylist said:
Only marginably constrained now. Yes, the Wii is outselling the 360 . . . but not massively in NA as many seem to think.
Frankfurter
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speculawyer said:
lol @ that link :lol
chibcicylist
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Yeah, because market leading consoles don't up their production significantly.spwolf said:it will catchup to what? November-May sales?
Graph is great, but it doesnt show the fact that it will take a LONG time for Wii to actually catch up to 360 sales. At this rate, it will take 4 years..
Yeah, that's all I mean. I wasn't trying to make any particular point. Someone asked for a graph and I thought I'd make one before it becomes too difficult to dig up old numbers.spwolf said:it will catchup to what? November-May sales?
I would have put the 360's sales up to November in but I couldn't find a life-to-date figure for the 360 that was reliable. NPD put out some LTD figures in December or something but they looked completely whack. So I graphed it like this and realised that with the lines closer together it makes it a bit easier to read how each console is trending against the others. Otherwise the 360 would up a mile at 6 million or whatever and the Wii and PS3 would have tiny lines at the bottom of the graph.
Bildi said:
Link to post
donny2112 said:
And again, I already have month-to-month graphs for both next-gen handhelds and consoles for the U.S. and Japan. I just prefer doing weekly average breakdowns instead of cumulative, as you can see the impact of individual games better.
chibcicylist said:
Well it's not like the Fall Lineup for 360 isn't going to be huge, and the price isn't going down soon...
We seem to forget the price differences. 360 will gain tons of momentum this fall, it's rather impressive that it held its own with Just a new IP to rely on in the middle of two big Console launches.
Don't underestimate the 360 in N.A, and Europe is warming up alot to it too. Sure Japan is not a good market for the 360, but it's trying hard, and that's very important for the Dev support.
PleoMax said:
360 took a 30% dive in March. The HD market is being disrupted by alternatives (and because of high prices). I expect the decline to stabilise because of Elite (I'd expect it to go up by a nice little bit if the Elite wasn't supply constrained, however) for April though, but I expect the average weekly in May to be down a little (not much because people who wanted Elite will still be getting it), and then start to continue to decline in June.
PS3 has been getting the worst of it though (because of high price).
Version 3.0
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speculawyer said:
Um, no, that was the whole point of my post--comparing sales when they were both supply constrained instead of when just one is. When we'll see sales of both when they're not may be a while off.
Bildi said:Yeah, that's all I mean. I wasn't trying to make any particular point. Someone asked for a graph and I thought I'd make one before it becomes too difficult to dig up old numbers.
I would have put the 360's sales up to November in but I couldn't find a life-to-date figure for the 360 that was reliable. NPD put out some LTD figures in December or something but they looked completely whack. So I graphed it like this and realised that with the lines closer together it makes it a bit easier to read how each console is trending against the others. Otherwise the 360 would up a mile at 6 million or whatever and the Wii and PS3 would have tiny lines at the bottom of the graph.
you graph is great.. it is just that some people tend to read it wrong
Yeah, I know what you mean. We love the graphs at GAF but we're not very good at reading them. Or is it that we are very good at reading them to say exactly what we would like? :lolspwolf said:you graph is great.. it is just that some people tend to read it wrong
I'm going to do another graph now with donny's numbers and see how it looks.
Edit:
Thanks donny
Clever Pun
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Bildi said:Yeah, I know what you mean. We love the graphs at GAF but we're not very good at reading them. Or is it that we are very good at reading them to say exactly what we would like? :lol
I'm going to do another graph now with donny's numbers and see how it looks.
Edit:
Thanks donny
can you overlay it so that we can also see how each is doing relative to the other from their launch dates?
speculawyer
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Leondexter said:
Ah . . . I see. But then again, comparing sales of two supply constrained consoles is kinda pointless.
NPD April runs from April 8 to May 5 so the most equivalent Japanese sales period (using the weekly charts we get) would be April 9 to May 6:Kenka said:
NDS - 847,166
WII - 357,514
PSP - 123,341
PS2 - 51,669
PS3 - 48,713
360 - 11,574
GBA - 4,439
This is all in the original post.
Clever Pun
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Bildi said:
I can't wait.
Grampa Simpson
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Bildi said:Please use this only for good, not for evil.
