In my opinion, terrible decision, if the kinect proves to be successful and popular then they fucked themselves over. They clearly wanted to bundle it, those LEDs are useless now.
Good move. Microsoft should do the same.
It also means that there's absolutely no hope that anything meaningful will be made with the camera. Sony might as well just get rid of it altogether.
In my opinion, terrible decision, if the kinect proves to be successful and popular then they fucked themselves over. They clearly wanted to bundle it, those LEDs are useless now.
The camera should come bundled with a game, not a console. Smart decision Sony.
If they can sell it at retail for 59, then bundled it would have raised the price by $50 I imagine not $100.
But I am glad they left it out, optional is better, particularly since it gives them motivation to release compelling software for it to spur sales.
While I don't agree with all the bs Microsoft were spouting, holy hell people fucking EVOLVE. All we know the camera could have been the absolute shit, now it's going to just be absolute shit. You people are fucking stagnant as fuck. I love the controller just as much as you but dammit new experiences aren't always a bad thing. So Damn close minded on this site sometimes. Fuck.
While I don't agree with all the bs Microsoft were spouting, holy hell people fucking EVOLVE. All we know the camera could have been the absolute shit, now it's going to just be absolute shit. You people are fucking stagnant as fuck. I love the controller just as much as you but dammit new experiences aren't always a bad thing. So Damn close minded on this site sometimes. Fuck.
Is there any hope that preorder figures for the Xbone be so low that Microsoft does a 180° on Kinect too?
Mostly because not including it more or less relegates it to Move's level of adoption. It might fair a little better though with the LED being a part of the DS4 though.Why does the article seem so negative?
The camera is required for the Xbox One to function
Eye toy was never widely used in software.
Specialty software had to be made.
Kinect re invigorated the 360 as a motion control enabled console. It is not, however, in every console. Or wasn't at least. As a result, most software doesn't use it because the install base isn't there for that. Special software had to be made to take advantage of its features. That is no longer the case with kinect. Because its in every box, developers have its features at its disposal as a known quantity. Not an unknown.
Why am I explaining all this? Everyone knows what an accessory is and why it's not necessarily a good thing to relegate something to an accessory. Just mentioning something like the n64 expansion pack should say enough.
Wise decision. The camera is not an essential accessory. Those who want it will buy it anyway, sooner or later.
Isn't it still cheaper than an Xbone with a camera?
Eye toy was never widely used in software.
Specialty software had to be made.
Kinect re invigorated the 360 as a motion control enabled console. It is not, however, in every console. Or wasn't at least. As a result, most software doesn't use it because the install base isn't there for that. Special software had to be made to take advantage of its features. That is no longer the case with kinect. Because its in every box, developers have its features at its disposal as a known quantity. Not an unknown.
Why am I explaining all this? Everyone knows what an accessory is and why it's not necessarily a good thing to relegate something to an accessory. Just mentioning something like the n64 expansion pack should say enough.
Even less likely. They'd never ship with two completely different controllers.Well, it could have been camera + move lollipop. Not that I think this article is necessarily true.
Even with the camera, it's still cheaper... And i'm ok with that.
Kinect isn't just a camera. Nor even just two cameras. It's expensive for a reason.It's incredible how a more powerful system like the PS4 has a lower price than XB1 even if you include the camera.
As an example, we shouldn't be playing shooters with a controller anymore. We should be playing them with devices like evolved versions of move and wiimote on consoles. But closed minded-ness keeps us where we are. And as a result, level designs (especially on the vertical plane) and other thinfs like enemy placement will remain stagnant for yet another generation.
There is also absolutely no hope that anything meaningful will ever be made with Kinect.
Exactly right. We as "hardcore gamers" often fail to think outside the box and fear change of any kind. As an example, we shouldn't be playing shooters with a controller anymore. We should be playing them with devices like evolved versions of move and wiimote on consoles. But closed minded-ness keeps us where we are. And as a result, level designs (especially on the vertical plane) and other thinfs like enemy placement will remain stagnant for yet another generation.
It's incredible how a more powerful system like the PS4 has a lower price than XB1 even if you include the camera.
It's not like MS couldn't change that fact if they wanted to.
How does $99 added onto the launch price equal a $59 add on though...?