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The Official X06 Barcelona (360) Summary Thread
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Epsilon-delta
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Uncle said:
Exactly.
Next time Peter does a conference, he should emphatically state "this game is an exclusive, not timed exclusive", to make it clear for GAF fanboys. :lol
sonycowboy
Member
Kuroyume said:
No you can't.
Sales of Splinter Cell on Xbox (by far it's preferred platform)
Nov-03 1,537,095 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL
Mar-04 641,949 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: PANDORA TOMO
Mar-05 548,839 TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: CHAOS THEORY
Epsilon-delta
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Shard said:
Only Splinter Cell 5. Double Agent is multi-platform.
Kabuki Waq
Member
is there any place i can download the conference?
Angelcurio
Member
Is Splinter Cell released yearly?
sonycowboy said:
Yes you can. I don't have a list of sales anywhere but MGS and RE aren't as big as fanboys make both games out to be. I'm not going to say SC is bigger than the other or whatever but to say SC's numbers have dropped and not acknowledge that RE and MGS aren't selling anywhere near as well as they did at one time is stupid.
mysticstylez
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sonycowboy said:
How did Snake Eater and RE4 sell? Didn't Snake Eater sell far less than MGS2 *atleast in the US*?
Well, I'm not sure what LevelNth is looking for, but here's mine/the obvious...SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
One thing the 360 game line-up/portfolio is still SORELY lacking in is:
3rd person melee-centric action adventure games.
You know, like Devil May Cry 4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Heavenly Sword, God of War 2, etc...
PS3 has 3 major games in this genre coming out in 2007 that we've seen gameplay of, and look good.
mysticstylez
Banned
RaijinFY said:
I was shocked about the sales ok Snake Eater at first...I loved that game.
Just got back online. After thinking this over, I think the conference was partly successful. Some great stuff, some WTF, and some MIA.
Barcelona-ton
*Halo Wars
Without a doubt a massive announcement. The Halo franchise is huge and keeping the Halo games coming, but with a new genre, is a great way to keep fans and possibly expand the audience. 360-only, great developer, everything about it rocks.
Great
*Next Splinter Cell is exclusive. Not a mega-ton, but a nice coup.
*Bioshock is exclusive. Great news, and a big coup.
*Assasin's Creed demo. It's the real deal, and it's amazing.
*DOOM on Live. Now. With 4-player co-op. Awesome, awesome, awesome.
*Gears of War demo - awesome. Looks buttery smooth, fun and polished.
*GTA 4 exclusive DLC content.
*Peter Moore. Barcalona-ton, lots of digs at Sony. "They told me what I could do with that bone."
Not So Great
*CG-galore. Forza 2, Halo Wars, PGR4. MS is turning into Sony on this department.
*The HD-DVD drive. $200 is too much, IMO. Should have been $150.
WTF?
*What was PJ talking about? Not a game, not a movie. Some...thing. But hey, it involves Halo, so I'm interested.
*PGR4. WTF? I'm still confused about why there are two main racing franchises from Microsoft, but their next, Forza 2, is still a ways out. Talk about stealing the thunder...from yourself. Plus, it's just more CG. Boring.
MIA
*Halo 3. Seriously guys, what the ****.
*Dashboard update. I expected lots of news here.
*Fable 2.
*Price cut/bundle. Major **** up to not even have a bundle for the holidays.
*Release dates. I was expecting dates for Crackdown, Viva Pinata, Fuzion Frenzy 2. Nada.
Barcelona-ton
*Halo Wars
Without a doubt a massive announcement. The Halo franchise is huge and keeping the Halo games coming, but with a new genre, is a great way to keep fans and possibly expand the audience. 360-only, great developer, everything about it rocks.
Great
*Next Splinter Cell is exclusive. Not a mega-ton, but a nice coup.
*Bioshock is exclusive. Great news, and a big coup.
*Assasin's Creed demo. It's the real deal, and it's amazing.
*DOOM on Live. Now. With 4-player co-op. Awesome, awesome, awesome.
*Gears of War demo - awesome. Looks buttery smooth, fun and polished.
*GTA 4 exclusive DLC content.
*Peter Moore. Barcalona-ton, lots of digs at Sony. "They told me what I could do with that bone."
Not So Great
*CG-galore. Forza 2, Halo Wars, PGR4. MS is turning into Sony on this department.
*The HD-DVD drive. $200 is too much, IMO. Should have been $150.
WTF?
*What was PJ talking about? Not a game, not a movie. Some...thing. But hey, it involves Halo, so I'm interested.
*PGR4. WTF? I'm still confused about why there are two main racing franchises from Microsoft, but their next, Forza 2, is still a ways out. Talk about stealing the thunder...from yourself. Plus, it's just more CG. Boring.
MIA
*Halo 3. Seriously guys, what the ****.
*Dashboard update. I expected lots of news here.
*Fable 2.
*Price cut/bundle. Major **** up to not even have a bundle for the holidays.
*Release dates. I was expecting dates for Crackdown, Viva Pinata, Fuzion Frenzy 2. Nada.
sonycowboy said:
Come on now... this is a trend in a lot of exclusives these days. Its a lot easier to lock-in a franchise that is already past its peak, and we are seeing it on both sides of the fence. Sonycowboy, MGS and DMC are both past their peak. Thats not to say that these games are not important in the console race though - they obvioulsy have their loyal followings and are in essence "system sellers" just like GRAW has been for the 360.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
Member
it's on the marketplace in HDGhost said:
Not to mention MGS and RE do these kinds of numbers in every territory, not just one. That right there is the difference IMO.RaijinFY said:
To be fair, my complaints should be leveled at TGS, rather than X06. But the bottom line is, I want more Japanese content, or at the very least, the types of games that Japanese do so well; namely 3rd person action games, quirky original stuff, horror games and the RPG trifecta, in action, strategy and traditional.SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
And I know what you're going to say, 'what about Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Infinite Undiscovery?'. They look great, for that there is no doubt (well, BD not so much; damn Toriyama =P), but I don't view them as support persay, but rather just individual games. Here me out, I'm not crazy. My problem is, I don't believe that MS can or will continue to make the investments they did for those 3 games unless they all turn out to be significant successes. And let's be honest, there's a chance these games will 'bomb' (relatively to what MS has spent on the games), and sell way south of 1m worldwide.
And when that happens, what else is there? What if those games are it, and they don't even turn out that great? Putting so much emphasis on these games to not only be good, but also to spur Japanese sales and generate more TP support is quite a weight on the shoulders. Now, I don't want you to look at these comments as 'complaints' of mine, but rather unsettling worries, if you know what I mean. If the games come and go, and despite not doing well, MS continues funding that kind of development, I'll be extremely happy. If the games spur a lot of support from third party companies to produce similar content, I'll again be very happy. But I'm rather skeptical of either actually happening.
I've tried to voice my concerns and complaints without being overly hateful or troll-ish, so I hope no goes too crazy on me.
Grok4Spock
Member
Get used to it because the casual gamer is the future core gamer....Shard said:
Fallout-NL
Member
Kuroyume said:
B.s. Resident Evil 4 was nothing short of fantastic. Splinter Cell's updates on the other hand... I mean the fact that the stuff being released every damn year now pretty much says it all.
sonycowboy
Member
Arsenal said:
Splinter Cell has ABSOLUTELY NO BUZZ. MGS4 is probably the most anticipated next gen game outside of Halo 3. I'd attribute MGS 3's subpar sales to the taint of MGS 2 not having Snake playable.
In any case, the MGS franchise is still one of the tops in the industry. And as someone said, it sell well in every region. I expect that MGS 4 will do VERY, VERY well.
Thing is, that was my opinion about Microsoft after this last E3. I didn't liked how instead of appealing to new publics they just were chasing the very hardcore of the 360 audience. I mean: gears of war, mass effect, Too human... it looked as if they were wanting to be "the bald marine console" on purpouse. Overabundance of sci fi action games.
And now, bam! 2 incredibly promising RPGs that they are bothering pimping (I hope God that they realize that these two games are more crucial to the European market than Too Human will ever be...), a strategy title that have made got me interested on the Halo universe (nope, I didn't played the original games), Banjo, a quirky platafformer... I like the Microsoft's route a lot. Yep, there should be more melee sword action games, but still, I think that it is great how they are slowly pulling their head out of their asses and trying to make something behind imitate what have worked previously on the xbox.